carlyluvsunited
30-04-2008, 07:22 AM
I read this today. Very interesting too. It tells us how many
Eastern European migrants are here and how many have returned home
already !
Have a look.
I am from Eastern Europe ... so I would like to hear from people on here how they
feel about us all coming here. Be honest too please ... I don't have intentions to
hold anyone's opinion against them. It stays inside this thread as far as I am
concerned. I am interested to find the views and opinions of people here
compared to people who confront me about this in my City where I live now.
It wont be classed as racism either, lol....well as long as you keep it sensible.
Do you work wth any of these people. Do you know any of them ? Are you good
friends with any ? Have you had a bad excperience with them ? Have any
committed crime you know of ... this kind of thing ...
If you have time that is ;)
Thankyou ... x
Poland was one of eight countries to join the EU in 2004
About one million migrants from Eastern Europe have arrived in the UK since 2004
but half of them have already returned home, research suggests.
The Institute for Public Policy Research examined the impact on the UK after the
EU expanded in 2004 and 2007.
It suggested that the arrival of migrant workers from 10 countries would also
slow, with more returning as conditions in their countries improved.
The migrants had also spread to all parts of the UK to find work, it said.
The research looked at migrants who came from eight countries that joined the
European Union in May 2004 - Poland, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary,
Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia and Slovenia.
Four in ten of the returned Polish migrants we surveyed think that better
employment prospects in Poland would encourage Poles living in the UK to return
to Poland for good
IPPR report
Poland entices its workers home
It also included migrants from Romania and Bulgaria, which joined in 2007.
The research by IPPR, a Labour-leaning British think tank, estimated that about
one million migrant workers had come to the UK from 2004 accession countries,
but that around half of this group had already left the UK.
The IPPR also predicted that fewer migrants from the new EU states would come
to the UK and many already in the UK would return to their home countries in the
coming months and years.
It based this forecast on the development of the EU countries, with improving
economic conditions making it less likely that would-be migrants will leave.
"Four in 10 of the returned Polish migrants we surveyed think that better
employment prospects in Poland will encourage Poles living in the UK to return to
Poland for good," the IPPR said.
According to the research released to the BBC, there were 665,000 nationals from
all 10 countries living in the UK in the last quarter of 2007.
Government underestimated
This was an increase of 548,000 since the first quarter of 2004, just prior to the
first eight countries joining the EU.
The government had underestimated the number of migrants post-expansion,
saying that between 5,000 and 13,000 would arrive after 2004.
In fact, by 2006, Home Office minister Tony McNulty admitted that the government
was "in the dark" over arrivals - 293,000 immigrants had applied for work permits
in the first 18 months.
As EU countries change their restrictions on the new members, workers will be
more likely to migrate there rather than to the UK, the IPPR suggested.
There will also be a smaller pool of possible migrants because of declining birth
rates in the mid-1980s.
And the pound's devaluation in relation to the Polish currency will narrow the gap
between potential earning in Britain and Poland.
The IPPR said the pound has already fallen by around a quarter relative to the
Polish zloty since early 2004.
The research also suggested that the geographical spread of EU migrants in the
UK was wider than previous waves of immigration.
It said that even areas that have not traditionally attracted migrants, such as
Scotland and south-west England, had attracted a "significant proportion" of
migrants.
This showed that migrants were willing to move to where work was available.
The number of migrants from the new EU countries arriving in the UK had also
started to slow substantially, with 17% fewer worker registrations in the second
half of 2007 than during the same period of 2006, the IPPR said.
"We estimate that some 30,000 fewer migrants arrived in the second half of 2007
as did in the second half of 2006."
Airport links
The IPPR looked at the Labour Force Survey, national insurance number
applications, and the Workers Registration Scheme - applicants are required to
register on the scheme as soon as they start working in the UK.
It also studied the International Passenger Survey and questioned Poles who
had returned to Poland after working in the UK.
Air travel between Britain and Poland had also changed since accession.
In December 2003 about 40,000 passengers flew between three British airports
and Warsaw and Krakow in Poland, but four years later it was possible to fly
from 18 British airports to 10 Polish cities.
Passenger numbers between these destinations in December 2007 were almost
385,000.
The IPPR, established in 1988, says it aims to promote social justice, democratic
participation and sustainability in government policy through its research and
analysis.
Eastern European migrants are here and how many have returned home
already !
Have a look.
I am from Eastern Europe ... so I would like to hear from people on here how they
feel about us all coming here. Be honest too please ... I don't have intentions to
hold anyone's opinion against them. It stays inside this thread as far as I am
concerned. I am interested to find the views and opinions of people here
compared to people who confront me about this in my City where I live now.
It wont be classed as racism either, lol....well as long as you keep it sensible.
Do you work wth any of these people. Do you know any of them ? Are you good
friends with any ? Have you had a bad excperience with them ? Have any
committed crime you know of ... this kind of thing ...
If you have time that is ;)
Thankyou ... x
Poland was one of eight countries to join the EU in 2004
About one million migrants from Eastern Europe have arrived in the UK since 2004
but half of them have already returned home, research suggests.
The Institute for Public Policy Research examined the impact on the UK after the
EU expanded in 2004 and 2007.
It suggested that the arrival of migrant workers from 10 countries would also
slow, with more returning as conditions in their countries improved.
The migrants had also spread to all parts of the UK to find work, it said.
The research looked at migrants who came from eight countries that joined the
European Union in May 2004 - Poland, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary,
Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia and Slovenia.
Four in ten of the returned Polish migrants we surveyed think that better
employment prospects in Poland would encourage Poles living in the UK to return
to Poland for good
IPPR report
Poland entices its workers home
It also included migrants from Romania and Bulgaria, which joined in 2007.
The research by IPPR, a Labour-leaning British think tank, estimated that about
one million migrant workers had come to the UK from 2004 accession countries,
but that around half of this group had already left the UK.
The IPPR also predicted that fewer migrants from the new EU states would come
to the UK and many already in the UK would return to their home countries in the
coming months and years.
It based this forecast on the development of the EU countries, with improving
economic conditions making it less likely that would-be migrants will leave.
"Four in 10 of the returned Polish migrants we surveyed think that better
employment prospects in Poland will encourage Poles living in the UK to return to
Poland for good," the IPPR said.
According to the research released to the BBC, there were 665,000 nationals from
all 10 countries living in the UK in the last quarter of 2007.
Government underestimated
This was an increase of 548,000 since the first quarter of 2004, just prior to the
first eight countries joining the EU.
The government had underestimated the number of migrants post-expansion,
saying that between 5,000 and 13,000 would arrive after 2004.
In fact, by 2006, Home Office minister Tony McNulty admitted that the government
was "in the dark" over arrivals - 293,000 immigrants had applied for work permits
in the first 18 months.
As EU countries change their restrictions on the new members, workers will be
more likely to migrate there rather than to the UK, the IPPR suggested.
There will also be a smaller pool of possible migrants because of declining birth
rates in the mid-1980s.
And the pound's devaluation in relation to the Polish currency will narrow the gap
between potential earning in Britain and Poland.
The IPPR said the pound has already fallen by around a quarter relative to the
Polish zloty since early 2004.
The research also suggested that the geographical spread of EU migrants in the
UK was wider than previous waves of immigration.
It said that even areas that have not traditionally attracted migrants, such as
Scotland and south-west England, had attracted a "significant proportion" of
migrants.
This showed that migrants were willing to move to where work was available.
The number of migrants from the new EU countries arriving in the UK had also
started to slow substantially, with 17% fewer worker registrations in the second
half of 2007 than during the same period of 2006, the IPPR said.
"We estimate that some 30,000 fewer migrants arrived in the second half of 2007
as did in the second half of 2006."
Airport links
The IPPR looked at the Labour Force Survey, national insurance number
applications, and the Workers Registration Scheme - applicants are required to
register on the scheme as soon as they start working in the UK.
It also studied the International Passenger Survey and questioned Poles who
had returned to Poland after working in the UK.
Air travel between Britain and Poland had also changed since accession.
In December 2003 about 40,000 passengers flew between three British airports
and Warsaw and Krakow in Poland, but four years later it was possible to fly
from 18 British airports to 10 Polish cities.
Passenger numbers between these destinations in December 2007 were almost
385,000.
The IPPR, established in 1988, says it aims to promote social justice, democratic
participation and sustainability in government policy through its research and
analysis.
