Jealous Scousers Comments

[sparkic]

Well I was ganged up by the liverpoo fans today with some stupid arguments on why they are better (lmao in their dreams!)

We have quite a fair bit of debates and I rip their non sensical arguments up into shreds and they cannot take it any more lol They go on searching new arguments every day literally lmao

Their latest arguments are of course nothing to do with the performance of the teams because being the european and premiership champions they cannot diss us as they are trophyless. We are a much better team and have been better them overall throughout history (head to head record). Since we are better then them on the park they pick on other things.

What they have now picked on is the fans who do not follow football but support Man United because they are like the only name they know in football. You know those fans who like only support Man United because of thier succsess. Glory hunters like the Chelsea fans you know... They say without our succsess we would not have so many fans and etc.

Next thing they claim is that we bought our succsess and hence the popularity boost and boost in fans. They also say: "Money can’t buy you love - but it can certainly buy you trophies - aint that right Sir Alex."

They also say: "Uniteds baron spell of 26 years without the title must have been bleak - at least Liverpool have accumulated about 10 major trophies in their baron spell of 18 years. - Not bad eh"

Still can't believe they consider the league cup as a major honour lol

So what are your views on these comments? Iv got some good rebuttals but I also want to see what other Man United fans think of the issue...maybe they have a different view on these issues/arguements? I know there are many Man Utd fans who really are not fans who like us follow the club to every little detail and this is basically what they are picking on :rolleyes:

[manutd004]

Every big club has supporters that are gloryhunters. Even the supposedly "fantastic support" of the Poo. :rolleyes:

But, they need to take a better look. We are by far the better club.

We are the club that have the innovative ideas and prospects first and foremost. We are the "trendsetters" if you like.

Saying we have bought success is a bit rich tbh. You need money to be successful, and when Sir Alex first came, we didn't have a lot of money. So obviously, their heads are up their rear-ends. :p

Tbh, Scousers are always so bitter and biased so its really just better to laugh at them and feel sorry for them.

[abojodeh]

they are just scousers

[Zense_United]

all they can say is about history already like not talking about the present, only the past they could talk about! ive got many loserpool friends too, argue same topics

[Stephen]

Quite suprised they haven't said anything about Munich. Suprising.

[-zuco-]

Show them these :)

Barry signs for Liverpool
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/_zuco_/barry_signs.jpg

Brokeback Scouse
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/_zuco_/brokescouse1.jpg

Carlsberg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/_zuco_/Carlsberg.jpg

[manutd004]

Show them these :)

Barry signs for Liverpool
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/_zuco_/barry_signs.jpg

LMAO! :p

I love that one especially! :p

[ManUtd19]

Sir Matt Busby
Sir Bobby Charlton
Sir Alex Ferguson
Old Trafford
George Best
Denis Law
Eric Cantona
Ryan Giggs
Paul Scholes
Gary Neville
Ole Solskjaer
10 Premier Leagues
3 Champions Leagues (2 in last 10 years)
Attractive football

'Nuff said.

[frenchie]

jealousy will get them nowhere....lol

[CaptainRoyKeane]

Typical Scouse, they're just jealous by playing bleak football! All they can do is gang up!

[stretty]

There are more liverpool fans outside of liverpool than in they travel from all corners of england and abroad , their popularity stemmed from their success during our barren 26 years , making most of their supporters the glory hunters .
Our successs came from 1993 onwards in the last 10 to 15 years, so some of our younger fans will get called glory hunters because they know nothing but success.
I think at least 50%of my personal hatred stems from their success because we used to be in the position they are in , never being close to winning the league.
One or two more barren seasons and i think they will have trouble filling their new ground.
And by the way the last 18 years apart from when they skanked the champions league have been pure heaven and long may it continiue up to 26 years at least

[RedForceRising]

15 years and not much has changed.

I started writing a thread once about the challenges I face as a Man Utd supporter.

Supporting a successful club will always make people question why you do so.

The thing that strikes me is that fans of English football make more out of it than fans from other leagues or sports.

When I was a kid, I was an absolute Michael Jordan fan. He was simply the best to watch and was involved in so many dramatic moments.

So many important games were won by one of his fade-away jumpers or superb vision.

Not one single time was I questioned about wearing a bulls jersey on the court.

When American sailors spotted me wearing a Jordan shirt or Bulls jersey they would engage me in conversation and be proud that people from around the world follow the NBA.

In Germany, it is accepted that people do not necessarily support clubs who are geocarphically close. You just support the club you do. OK some clubs like Bayern or Schalke are less liked than others, but people generally accept if you come from one part of the country and support a club from another part in the country.

Not so with English football.

My only advice is to get used to it and not to let them draw you in too much. You can engage in discourse, but try not to let them sucker you in emotionally.

You will normally be able to argue better when you don't let yourself get angry.

The truth is that there are lot of football fans, who have a low level of knowledge of football.

If they question the knowledge of Man Utd fans, ask them if they are so sure that Liverpool fans can't just be as clueless.

Ask them how they know this to be true. Everything is just their opinion, so it's just their opinion versus your opinion.

You also should know that knowing less or more trivia does not have any bearing on a fan's love for his club.

Lastly, even if they happen to be better at debating than you and it would appear that they might have won the debate/argument, you still support the best club in the world ; )

[SALFORD RED]

or failing all of the above working...


a size 9 steel toe capped boot to the testicles
or a baseball bat applied to the back of the head,
best applied in an unlit alley way on a dark night. :D



This post in no way condones the use of violence
or the use of offensive weapons on people with
lower inteligence levels. ;)

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[thekeanefella]

attacking the ambulance that was carrying alan smith to hospital after having his leg snapped in half. yeah they are the best fans in the world.

[carlyluvsunited]

On the subject of "Bought Trophies" ask them this question:

Name the ONLY team who has won the Premier League or the the old League
Championship having spent ZERO cash ?

You guessed it ...

United did !!!

In fact forget that fact ...

We did even better than that. I just checked my little 'United Black Book'.

In the season 1995-1996 United won the double !!! That season we SOLD Mark
Hughes, Paul Ince and Andrei Kachelskis - and we bought ...NOBODY !!!

I assume the 'expensive' signings these Liverpool fans refer to would be the
replacements for these three ?

Nicky Butt,. Gary Neville, Phil Neville, David Beckham and Paul Scholes who cost a
mind boggling £ZERO !!!

Yes we won the double while making a handsome profit of £17 million !!!

We introduced a bunch of kids - at which point the BBC 'expert' Alan Hansen told
us all "You can't win anything with kids". Well done Hansen.

It was a good season for quotes that year. Keegan came out with his "I'll love it"
rant as United overturned a 15 point deficit, lmao ..... Ave it !!!

I have a list that shows how much money each years league winners spent on
players. Starting with the lowest amount, which is obviously United in 1995-1996,
having spent zero.

In second place ....

United again in 1992-1993. They only spent £1.1m on Pat McGibbon and Dion
Dublin.

Third ...

United yet again !! In 1999-2000 spending a mere £1.5m on Quinton
Fortune.

4th = Arsenal in 2003-2004. £2.5m (Cesc, Senderos, Lehman, Clichy)
5th = United in 1993-1994. £3.75m (Keanoooooo !)
6th = Blackburn 1994-1995. £5.3m (Sutton, Slater)
7th = United 1996-1997. £7.5m (Van Der Gouw, Jonnsen, Solskjaer, Poborsky,
Cruyff)
8th = United 2000-2001. £7.8m (Barthez)
9th = Arsenal 1997-1998. £14.55m (Manninger, Petit, Grimande, Boa Morte,
Mendez, Overmars, Canoville, Wreh)
10th = United 2006-2007. £18.6m (Carrick)
11th = Arsenal 2001-2002. £22.25m (Jeffers, Van Bronckhurst, Campbell, R
Wright)
12th = United 1998-1999. £27.75m (Stam, Blomqvist, Yorke)
13th = United 2002-2003. £30m (Rio)

Now for the funny part. The two years Chelsea won/bought the title - oddly
enough, they spent the most cash for the 15 years this list covers !!!

14th is Chelsea and they spent a whopping £53.4m In 2005-2006!!! (Asier del
Horno, Scott Sinclair, Lassana Diarra, Shaun Wright-Phillips, Michael Essien)

You think that's a lot of cash ?

Check this out !!!

Drumroll .........

Last but definitely not least is Chelsea in 2004-2005 with a massive .......

£89.05m :eek:

(Petr Cech, Arjen Robben, Paulo Ferreira, Mateja Kezman, Didier Drogba, Tiago,
Ricardo Carvalho)

FOR THE SCOUSERS !!! SIX OF THESE PREMIER LEAGUE WINS COST US A
GRAND TOTAL OF £21.65m !!!

OR PUT SIMPLY ....

EACH ONE OF THE SIX COST US £3,608,333 (and 33p but who's counting pennies)

We might have bought the title but good God, it was cheap huh !!!!

[TheManc]

Plus Liverpool will never be as glamouress (sp?) as us. compare our top players with theres.

Dalglish
Rush
Keegan
Souness
Fowler
Owen
Gerrard
Paisly
Shankly

VS

Best
Charlton
Law
Cantona
Keane
Robson
Giggs
Beckham (in terms of fame)
Smichael
Scholes
SIR Alex Ferguson
SIR Matt Busby

= only 1 winner, plus, we have two nights, soon to be 3 (giggs:D )

In short, if I use a 'film type' way of describing the difference then this is the answer:

Manchester United = Box Office
Liverpool = Sky Movies

only one winner :D

[Jazz 16]

Interesting analogy....
Id have said United is like Playboy tv :p and Liverpool is like the gardening
channel or some other ****** channel:D

[carlyluvsunited]

Liverpool = Film on Four :D

I think Bob Paisley and Bill Shankly are up there
with Fergie and Sir Matt to be honest. From what
I have read about them and what other people
say about them !!

Mr Paisley 3 Champions Leagues and 5 League titles in 9 years ... :eek:

[RedMurph7]

Just look at some of the players Liverpool have playing
for them. Voronin, Aurélio, Pennant, Arbeloa and Yossi Benayoun.

These are all average Premiership players. They wouldnt get in
Newcastles first team never mind our reserves!!
Plus when it comes to history, there starting to run out of
fans that can actually remember the glory days there becoming
that long ago and long may that continue!!

[manutdforever]

You should see the comments they come out with on you tube.

[piazza]

Liverpool's time is done, when your manager concedes the title before the season starts, your club is in a sad state. The biggest news surrounding your club is the transfer whirlwind over (drumroll please...) GARETH BARRY?!?!? Gareth Barry wouldn't even make our reserves. Name one member of our midfield the Barry is better then. Go ahead, I dare you.

LFC Supporters= Jealous, classless, murderers. Who else can somehow complain about other teams spending huge amounts of money to win titles, AND somehow forget that they bought Torres for £20,000,000?

[manutdforever]

I can't believe that these Scumerpool fans think that signing the likes of Barry and Keane is going to help them become a contender, for the premiership.

[RedForceRising]

I used to be on teamtalk a lot, until I got tired of the scum.

I calculated for them how much money was spent under Benitez. Before this season he actually spent more than Fergie and won F all.

The response I got was that "He had to reuild a whole squad".

Excuses upon excuses......

You cannot win with people who do not want to argue in the realm that we normal human beings operate in....

BTW until the early 90s Liverpool were more popular than Man Utd outside England in my opinion, but they just rested on their laurels.

I read on a Liverpool blag, that they were a family club wile Man Utd were a corporate machine.

What utter nonsense. We just had better people running the club off the pitch and better players on the pitch, simple as.

Liverpool got complacent and lazy.

Man Utd never rested on it's laurels and constantly sought to improve and strive for excellence.

Sparkic - I tell you what. If those liverfoos claim Man Utd supporters are glory hunters, you should claim that Liverpool fans like all suffer from a complex and need to associate themselves with underperformers, so it makes their own failings acceptable.

tsk tsk

[PrinceZane]

So I'm curious. If they were to have won the league this year spending so much on Torres. What would that have been? Obviously not buying the trophy. Would that mean they somehow confused him with a hub cap and stole him?

[sparkic]

I am really happy with the responses on here! Some really nice ones...and I love your last note RFR lol

Some good clean arguements...I appreciate the responses people :) I shall type up my whole argument with the help of the ones you guys just gave and I shall post it on here soon!

[carlyluvsunited]

AND somehow forget that they bought Torres for £20,000,000?

They wish it was £20,000,000 ... !!

Try £27,000,000 ... :eek:

[piazza]

They wish it was £20,000,000 ... !!

Try £27,000,000 ... :eek:
I thought 20 seemed cheap lol, I was going off of wikipedia. Either, wiki is wrong (wouldn't doubt it) or he hit his incentives (also wouldn't doubt it) either way £27,000,000+33 Goals= 0 trophies.