Rafael & Fábio

[Nirk]

Am i right in saying that some time ago we signed two Brazilian twins? Who are they? How old are they? Have they got potential? How long until we see them???

[mruk]

we can't have them over here until they are 18, i think they signed them a year ago and they were 15 then, i have no info about them though.

[MuX]

One was a LB...
The other a RB...

[Jazz 16]

Fabio and Rafael. Read the article below:

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=385848&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=3&title=United+snap+up+Brazilians

[martinutd]

I am sure they are big talents

[HUW_92]

The 2 Twins Fabnio And Rafael Silva R 17 And Wil Join Nxt Yerar Wen 18, They Play 4 The Brazil Youth Team And They R Fukin Amazing

[adamcsl]

What you all think of Rafael & Fabio Pereira da Silva? Heard Man Utd have signed them as replacement for the Neville brothers! Great to hear that because both of them are full backs from left to right...


Another superstar in making... Rodrigo Pereira Possebom...What a Brazilian...

[Busby Boy]

I don't really know a lot about them, although i believe that United have signed them some time ago. Obviously, United rate them as good prospects.

[adamcsl]

Well...you can view them in the youtube.com on how they play..

[Branco]

I have seen Fabio play for Brazil u-17s on a few occasions and he looks dynamite, we have struck gold in landing him.

[SolskjaertheLegend]

Any idea on the fee for these players?

[Anderson's God]

Probably a compensation package when they hit 18 for their old club Fluminense.

[Jazz 16]

One of them is the captain of the U17s and is supposed to be better than his brother (Fabio possibly). They both have huge potential and great qualities.

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=385848&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=3&title=United+snap+up+Brazilians

[Anderson's God]

I have heard that too!

[SolskjaertheLegend]

So could this boy be the one that replaces Neville when he retires?

[Anderson's God]

It seems like it - yeah, quality Brazilian - the next 'Cafu'

[unitedred]

Rafael is the right back so maybe.

Fabio the left sided fullback is the one that has made more of an impact though, he's captain of the u17 brazil side and is one of Brazils hottest teenage property.

http://fifa.com/mm/photo/tournament/competition/fabio%5f9130%5fsq%5fmedium.jpg

[Busby Boy]

Rafael is the right back so maybe.

Fabio the left sided fullback is the one that has made more of an impact though, he's captain of the u17 brazil side and is one of Brazils hottest teenage property.

http://fifa.com/mm/photo/tournament/competition/fabio%5f9130%5fsq%5fmedium.jpghttp://fifa.com/mm/photo/tournament/competition/fabio%5f9130%5fsq%5fmedium.jpg
Actually, United have been quite clever in securing these guys early...seems like a really good piece of business.

Thanks for posting the pictures of them, everybody.:)

[Anderson's God]

How I remember them is R - Rafael and Right back so then it makes it easy for me to remember where Fabio plays!

[Branco]

Fabio is a right footed left back.

[Busby Boy]

Fabio is a right footed left back.
Great so that means he's pretty versatile.

[Justice]

There the new Neville's without doubt.
Maybe theres something about having twins in the fullbacks?

[unitedred]

Fabio is a right footed left back.

Hopefully he does end up at right back then because we're sorted at left back with Patrice Evra. He's 25 and he'll be starter for at least another 5 years.

Fabio's chance to get into the team is at right back.

[Busby Boy]

Yeah i agree...Evra looks like he has secured the full-back spot for years to come.

[adamcsl]

The twin in making....I'm sure both of them are the future prospect for Man Utd long term plan...Great to see more Brazilian joining the Man U camp as we missed out the most influential Brazilian in history, Ronaldinho...

[Justice]

Stupid Pre-Glazer PLC messing around...

[chiboygeorge]

It seems like it - yeah, quality Brazilian - the next 'Cafu'
they better be good

[Anderson's God]

One of them got 7 goals in a tournament - to the point that he outplayed his team mate and scored more than Lulinha, the playmaker!

[Justice]

hahaha good job.

[unitedred]

Yep that would be fabio, he's regarded as the bigger talent of the two brothers.

Apparently can use his right foot as well as his left so hopefully he gets moved to right back and bulks up a bit.

[chiboygeorge]

Rafael and Fabio: Double trouble!(FIFA.com)

Brazil have produced some legendary wingback pairings over the years, namely the Djalma Santos-Nilton Santos, Leandro-Junior and Cafu-Roberto Carlos combinations. And although Rafael and Fabio have yet to make their first-team debuts at club level, their outstanding performances during the FIFA U-17 World Cup have suggested that they possess the potential to succeed the aforementioned greats in the senior Seleção's No2 and No6 jerseys.

There is, nonetheless, one striking difference between Rafael and Fabio and other wingback duos: they are identical twins. Both right-footed, it is the latter, the Brazil U-17 captain, who patrols the opposite flank. Not that it holds him back, as his three goals in games against New Zealand and Korea DPR will attest.

One man who will have been thrilled by their displays on Korean soil is Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson, who will have attack-conscious siblings at his disposal from the summer of 2008 after the English giants reached a pre-contract agreement with Fluminense, whom they have supported since childhood.

Chatting exclusively to FIFA.com from Jeju, before they flew out to Goyang for Brazil's final Group B game against England, Rafael and Fabio spoke of their forthcoming move to Manchester United, their excitement at the prospect of playing alongside Anderson and Cristiano Ronaldo, the Premiership's recent Brazilian influx and something their father told them when watching Cafu hold aloft the FIFA World Cup™ Trophy in 2002.

FIFA.com: Where did you watch the 2002 FIFA World Cup Final?
Rafael: We were 11 years old and we watched the game at home with our family and it amazing to see Cafu lift up the trophy. At the time, our father said: 'One day, it will be you two - doing that.' It is a dream of ours. Of course, our first dream is to play for the main national team, but it's going to be really difficult for us to achieve that. But we're training hard to fulfil our dream.

Are you enjoying this tournament?
Fabio: Of course! We have had two big wins over New Zealand and Korea DPR, but we know that it will get harder for us, starting with the game against England. The standard of the teams in this competition is extremely high, but we're confident that we have the ability to win the tournament.

It seems as though you're having a lot of fun together, what's the spirit like in the Brazil squad?
Rafael: We've been together a long time and we're not like team-mates or friends, but like family. When we score a goal, the coaches and substitutes celebrate a goal as much as the players on the pitch - we're just so happy to be playing in this World Cup.

Fabio: This is probably the last time this squad will be playing together as an U-17 team. The next step up for a World Cup is the U-20s, so it will be a long time before we get the opportunity to play in a tournament like this again. We're all going to be separated at the end of the tournament to go to our clubs and the thought of that makes us a bit sad; so that's why we want to keep on winning - to stay together.

Do you think Lucho is a good coach?
Rafael [ interrupting]: Of course, of course! Lucho hasn't been our coach for a long time, but we think that he's an excellent coach. He gives us a lot of confidence and is helping us to learn more about football. He is so passionate about the team and that inspires us.

Fabio, is it hard to play on the left hand side, when your right foot is the stronger of the two?
Fabio: No, I am used to it now; I have had plenty of practice...
Rafael [ interrupting and laughing]: You play all over the pitch anyway, it doesn't matter to you!

Moving swiftly on guys, you're joining Manchester United next summer, are you looking forward to it?
Rafael: We might be going across in January, but we're not sure. We've already started to learn a little bit of English - and yes, we're really looking forward to it. We're also looking forward to playing alongside Cristiano Ronaldo. We met him - and he said it would be good for us to join the club.

Fabio: Anderson is also playing for the club too, so it will be good to see him. There seem to be a lot of Brazilian players in England now - Lucas is at Liverpool, Geovanni and Elano are at Manchester City, so it will be good to see them when we are in Manchester. I'm sure they'll help us adjust to living in England. But we're going over there to experience it for ourselves and learn more about football too.

Although you are identical twins, what are your differences?
Rafael: Well, facially, I have a few marks around my eyes, so that's the secret of telling us apart.

That's not good for the fans watching you in the stadium though...
Fabio: Well, he plays on the right - and I play on the left! [They both laugh]

But as people?...
Rafael: We're both very similar - and that's probably why we get on so well! Fabio's more organised than me, but we're typical brothers. We have fun, we love football - and we fight, but only sometimes!



Please Comment

They are top klaas you guys need to watch themplay together Fabio plays everwhere LB CB CM WF ST everywhere

They will star vs England thats why im staying up to watch this match in 15 mins

im staying up to watch my origin countymen destroy England:D :D agree?

[rooneyNo10]

England won 2-1, come on the england! How did they play?

[andycole9]

the game is repeated at 3pm today on eurosport

so you can see for your self :0)

[Jazz 16]

I just noticed that Rafael said they might be coming over in January. Thats pretty interesting. Why would they be over sooner?
Its great to see that these guys are doing well for themselves. Our team in years to come could be frightening.

Foster
Rafael Pique Evans Fabio
Ronaldo Eagles Anderson Nani
Rooney Tevez

And these are guys that we already own!!!

[unitedred]

Eagles?

Hargreaves and Carrick are hardly oldies.

Eagles is **** anyway, average player. Doesn't have that edge that quality players have, he'll become decent at best.

[SolskjaertheLegend]

cant wait for us to sign these two

and Jazz 16 that team looks well decent for the future lol apart from id have Carrick or Hargreaves in there

[Jazz 16]

cant wait for us to sign these two

and Jazz 16 that team looks well decent for the future lol apart from id have Carrick or Hargreaves in there

I was thinking more 10 years down the line.

[andycole9]

Eagles?

Hargreaves and Carrick are hardly oldies.

Eagles is **** anyway, average player. Doesn't have that edge that quality players have, he'll become decent at best.
yea i agree i think fergie is just putting him in the shop window for next summer, he'll get no where near the bench when every one is back fit

I was thinking more 10 years down the line.
fergie will have a rocking chair on the bench by then :)

[unitedred]

Rafael and Fabio: Double trouble!

Brazil have produced some legendary wingback pairings over the years, namely the Djalma Santos-Nilton Santos, Leandro-Junior and Cafu-Roberto Carlos combinations. And although Rafael and Fabio have yet to make their first-team debuts at club level, their outstanding performances during the FIFA U-17 World Cup have suggested that they possess the potential to succeed the aforementioned greats in the senior Seleção's No2 and No6 jerseys.

There is, nonetheless, one striking difference between Rafael and Fabio and other wingback duos: they are identical twins. Both right-footed, it is the latter, the Brazil U-17 captain, who patrols the opposite flank. Not that it holds him back, as his three goals in games against New Zealand and Korea DPR will attest.

One man who will have been thrilled by their displays on Korean soil is Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson, who will have attack-conscious siblings at his disposal from the summer of 2008 after the English giants reached a pre-contract agreement with Fluminense, whom they have supported since childhood.

Chatting exclusively to FIFA.com from Jeju, before they flew out to Goyang for Brazil's final Group B game against England, Rafael and Fabio spoke of their forthcoming move to Manchester United, their excitement at the prospect of playing alongside Anderson and Cristiano Ronaldo, the Premiership's recent Brazilian influx and something their father told them when watching Cafu hold aloft the FIFA World Cup™ Trophy in 2002.

FIFA.com: Where did you watch the 2002 FIFA World Cup Final?
Rafael: We were 11 years old and we watched the game at home with our family and it amazing to see Cafu lift up the trophy. At the time, our father said: 'One day, it will be you two - doing that.' It is a dream of ours. Of course, our first dream is to play for the main national team, but it's going to be really difficult for us to achieve that. But we're training hard to fulfil our dream.

Are you enjoying this tournament?
Fabio: Of course! We have had two big wins over New Zealand and Korea DPR, but we know that it will get harder for us, starting with the game against England. The standard of the teams in this competition is extremely high, but we're confident that we have the ability to win the tournament.

It seems as though you're having a lot of fun together, what's the spirit like in the Brazil squad?
Rafael: We've been together a long time and we're not like team-mates or friends, but like family. When we score a goal, the coaches and substitutes celebrate a goal as much as the players on the pitch - we're just so happy to be playing in this World Cup.

Fabio: This is probably the last time this squad will be playing together as an U-17 team. The next step up for a World Cup is the U-20s, so it will be a long time before we get the opportunity to play in a tournament like this again. We're all going to be separated at the end of the tournament to go to our clubs and the thought of that makes us a bit sad; so that's why we want to keep on winning - to stay together.

Do you think Lucho is a good coach?
Rafael [ interrupting]: Of course, of course! Lucho hasn't been our coach for a long time, but we think that he's an excellent coach. He gives us a lot of confidence and is helping us to learn more about football. He is so passionate about the team and that inspires us.

Fabio, is it hard to play on the left hand side, when your right foot is the stronger of the two?
Fabio: No, I am used to it now; I have had plenty of practice...
Rafael [ interrupting and laughing]: You play all over the pitch anyway, it doesn't matter to you!

Moving swiftly on guys, you're joining Manchester United next summer, are you looking forward to it?
Rafael: We might be going across in January, but we're not sure. We've already started to learn a little bit of English - and yes, we're really looking forward to it. We're also looking forward to playing alongside Cristiano Ronaldo. We met him - and he said it would be good for us to join the club.

Fabio: Anderson is also playing for the club too, so it will be good to see him. There seem to be a lot of Brazilian players in England now - Lucas is at Liverpool, Geovanni and Elano are at Manchester City, so it will be good to see them when we are in Manchester. I'm sure they'll help us adjust to living in England. But we're going over there to experience it for ourselves and learn more about football too.

Although you are identical twins, what are your differences?
Rafael: Well, facially, I have a few marks around my eyes, so that's the secret of telling us apart.

That's not good for the fans watching you in the stadium though...
Fabio: Well, he plays on the right - and I play on the left! [They both laugh]

But as people?...
Rafael: We're both very similar - and that's probably why we get on so well! Fabio's more organised than me, but we're typical brothers. We have fun, we love football - and we fight, but only sometimes!

http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/news/newsid=579269.html#rafael+fabio+double+trouble

http://www.fifa.com/mm/photo/tournament/competition/rafael_fabio_16576_sq_small.jpg

http://www.fifa.com/mm/photo/tournament/competition/rafael_fabio_listen_edited_16582_sq_small.jpg

[chiboygeorge]

they 've already posted that 3-4 days old

[unitedred]

Sorry, my bad. :D

[chiboygeorge]

its ok

[carlyluvsunited]

Sorry, my bad. :D

I see people say this sometimes - but what does it mean please ?

[chiboygeorge]

I see people say this sometimes - but what does it mean please ?

its means its his Fault like ohh imm sorry

[alto10]

Brazilian identical twins Fabio and Rafael are set to arrive at Manchester United ahead of schedule and will begin their careers in England on Monday


Does anyone know if these too are any good?

[manutdman]

Brazilian identical twins Fabio and Rafael are set to arrive at Manchester United ahead of schedule and will begin their careers in England on Monday.
The two full backs - first spotted by Sir Alex Ferguson in a youth competition in Hong Kong in 2005 - signed pre-contract agreements with the Premier League champions when turning 16 in July 2006.


It had been expected that their European adventure would begin at the end of the current campaign, but the two 17-year-olds have now confirmed that their family will be moving to Manchester on January 21.

It is believed that United are paying £2.6 million for each of the teenagers who will look to emulate the Neville brothers by both winning a place in Ferguson's first team.

"After eight visits to Manchester United, we will travel to come to live in England," Rafael told Globoesporte.

"In the last two years, we were there three times in three months. We trained ten days and we came back. This time, all the family are going: Father, mother and our older brother with his wife."

"I go to only train for six months, without participating in games, for Manchester United," added Fabio.

"I will be able, in the maximum, to enter in some games before turning 18 on July 9.

[chiboygeorge]

Beautiful..Just Beautiful..sorry but are the Twins eligible to play i Champs league this season?..

Fabio to score on debut!

[red_devils4life]

Samba twins set for United lift-off
by Tom Adams, 16 January 2008

http://sports.setanta.com/upload/Sport/Football/Premiership/man_utd/fabio-rafel-united.jpg

Brazilian identical twins Fabio and Rafael are set to arrive at Manchester United ahead of schedule and will begin their careers in England on Monday.

The two full backs – first spotted by Sir Alex Ferguson in a youth competition in Hong Kong in 2005 - signed pre-contract agreements with the Premier League champions when turning 16 in July 2006.

It had been expected that their European adventure would begin at the end of the current campaign, but the two 17-year-olds have now confirmed that their family will be moving to Manchester on January 21.

It is believed that United are paying €3.5 million (£2.6 million) for each of the teenagers who will look to emulate the Neville brothers by both winning a place in Ferguson’s first team.

“After eight visits to Manchester United, we will travel to come to live in England,” Rafael told Globoesporte.

“In the last two years, we were there three times in three months. We trained ten days and we came back. This time, all the family are going: Father, mother and our older brother with his wife.”

Rafael plays at right back with Fabio performing on the opposite side for Brazil's youth teams and the Fluminense youth setup.

It is expected that neither will be considered for first team football until next season, when they hope to burst onto the scene like fellow Brazilian Alexandre Pato who recently made a huge impression on his Serie A debut with Milan after turning 18.

“I go to only train for six months, without participating in games, for Manchester United,” added Fabio.

“I will be able, in the maximum, to enter in some games before turning 18 on July 9.

“We know some Brazilian players of a similar age who are playing abroad.
Anderson, of the Manchester United, is our video gaming friend. We always talk with Lucas, ex-Gremio [and now of Liverpool], on MSN.

“Our biggest example is without a doubt Alexandre Pato. Who knows if we can go the same way as the Duck?”

http://sports.setanta.com/en/Sport/N...ive-at-United/

[akash_reds]

great news for the twins........

[akash_reds]

i thought there were 2 other threads on this..........

[red_devils4life]

WTH, hw come there are 3 threads on tis? :rolleyes: Is it b'coz they are so popular that everyone @ here are obssessed with the twins? :confused: Ah Ha! Let's begin the Fabio & Rafael ****FEST! :D

[yangch0000]

twins? and both full backs, and on either side? come on, people sure wan them to do well, just the thought of both of them occupying both flanks excites me! and Brazilians fullbacks are supposedly more superior than traditional fullbacks technically, so they sure can add extra bit of flair into the team.
But be more realistic, they are still very young, and to become a fullback in premiership, they got to be physically strong, so we might still have to wait quite awhile before seeing them playing for united

[NateR]

Awesome news. Can't wait to see them. They'll feature in the pre-season tour no doubt, as well as the Carling cup possibly. Or they could be loaned out for the season so they can develop further.

Good to have them here. They're plenty of Brazilians in Manchester, they can all hook up now.

[enkuna]

Great... Fabio and Rafael are our future and our next generation is fantastic...

[Evra-the-ledge]

We won't be seeing them till the summer.

[reddwarf]

Any more Brazilians and we'll have to have a carnivale. :)

Everybody samba. :D

[Justice]

FABIOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Expect to be hearing that alot. He scores more goals from left back than there strikers and midfielders do in Brazil u18's.

[Jazz 16]

Everything you need to know is in this thread:
http://www.manutdtalk.com/forums/man-utd-chat/1922-rafael-fabio.html?highlight=fabio+rafael

In future just have a quick search for threads before posting as there is usually one in existence. This can be done using the search button which is located next to the 'new posts' button.
Thanks.

[versa]

Just read that both are right-footed with Fabio on the left and Rafael on the right.

And that Fabio was the captain of Brazil in the World Cup U17 in South Korea last August.

And.... and .... hear this out, guys,... Fabio was indeed Brazil's leading scorer in the tournament as a left back!!!?

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: (max-ed out)

[Jazz 16]

sheesh, this is the FIFTH thread on these boys Ive seen.
have a look around before you post a new thread.......
heres the original thread: http://www.manutdtalk.com/forums/man-utd-chat/1922-rafael-fabio.html?highlight=fabio+rafael

[Anderson's God]

As great as it is, I am fed up of hearing about these two due to arrive on this date or that date or the next millennium. If they see sight of first team then fine but like most it doesn't happen!

sheesh, this is the FIFTH thread on these boys Ive seen.
have a look around before you post a new thread.......
heres the original thread: http://www.manutdtalk.com/forums/man-utd-chat/1922-rafael-fabio.html?highlight=fabio+rafael


:D :D :D

[versa]

As great as it is, I am fed up of hearing about these two due to arrive on this date or that date or the next millennium. If they see sight of first team then fine but like most it doesn't happen!







Hi, mate. Read my posting under manutdman's and you will not :D but :eek: ... ;)

[reddwarf]

sheesh, this is the FIFTH thread on these boys Ive seen.
have a look around before you post a new thread.......
heres the original thread: http://www.manutdtalk.com/forums/man-utd-chat/1922-rafael-fabio.html?highlight=fabio+rafael

Keep this one, it has a really nice picture of the 2 lads :D

[Natalie]

heard about these boys while back good to see em finally joining :)

[Wazza1989]

it's good we've got them...this is one thing i like at Man Utd...they always think at the future....and they always find the greatest young players:D

[Anderson's God]

it's good we've got them...this is one thing i like at Man Utd...they always think at the future....and they always find the greatest young players:D


Just like Puustinian, Neumayr, Rossi, N'galula, L. Steele ect! Look what happened to them! Neumayr and Rossi especially!

[carlyluvsunited]

FIVE threads about the 'Twins' !

We started a thread on all this in July.....

A simple search would have told you this !!

[carlyluvsunited]

And another one....merged !

[Anderson's God]

FIVE threads about the 'Twins' !

We started a thread on all this in July.....

A simple search would have told you this !!


5 threads, I don't think some know the meaning of the word "search" :D :D

[carlyluvsunited]

5 threads, I don't think some know the meaning of the word "search" :D :DI know AG this drive me bloody crazy, lol....:mad:

If they post these stories in the News Room I dont care - it's no big deal.....

If they cant post to News Room - post in Man Utd chat and let me know.....

I move it......

But on the boards 5 same story is mad.......Grrrrrr

[(q8-manutd)]

This question is usually in my mind:rolleyes: ..

Where are the brazilian twins ??

I hope you answer my question:)..

Thanx,,

[TheManc]

There with us now, except they're playing with the reserves.

The last time I them was when Ole had his first match as manager and they were on the bench, but I don't think they were in the squad as I think they were in the training kit.
:)

[RichardsReds]

How old are they?

[TheManc]

I think they're 18.
I'm looking forward to seeing them in the reserves especially Fabio as he is said to be the better of the two, he was the Brazil U17 captain aswell as as top scorer in the world cup.

[reddevil11]

i think they have just turned 18.