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Wolfster
12-07-2006, 07:48 PM
What should have been a dispute between Wayne Rooney and Ricardo Carvalho some how ended with Cristiano Ronaldo leaving MAN UTD, not to mention that Rooney's injury was inflicted by the portuguese international P.Ferreira, i wonder if someone in specific has to do anything with it, i dun wanna give names cuz this could be really annoying...
So how come that the fans ended blaming C.Ronaldo, while the real problem was Carvalho...why would the english fans be angry at Ronaldo and not Carvalho, how come that the media is talking that Ronaldo should not return to england and that he will be booed in every stadium he sets foot and not Carvalho????
phoenixson
12-07-2006, 08:15 PM
well first of all ronaldo isnt leaving man utd as he said july 12. but on the other hand he is the reason that rooney was kicked out of the field and dont try to cover it, u know that rooney shouldn't be kicked out for just a puch merely a a shake well if it was a head butt like zizou's then he should have been kicked out
manutdc
12-07-2006, 10:04 PM
Carvalho didn't do anything to get Rooney sent off, if I recall correctly. I remember seeing him just writhing on the ground in pain, like any man would if a foot came down and hit you there. Intentionally or not is another debate.
The reason the press have made Ronaldo the villain is because he supposedly ran 40 yards to protest to the ref, and then when Rooney was sent off he was caught winking at the Portuguese bench. It's also probably because Ronaldo has been more often than not caught diving and playacting, something none of us want to see in the game.
Wolfster
13-07-2006, 12:40 PM
well that may be true but when rooney way caught up between the 2 defenders which 1 of them was carvalho u ppl know well it should have been a foul for rooney, instead the ref. ignored that which led to rooney stepping on carvalho which after the sending off felt no pain no more.
I'm not saying that ronaldo was innocent but carvalho was just as guilty lets not forget this...
SalfordRed
13-07-2006, 03:11 PM
So how come that the fans ended blaming C.Ronaldo, while the real problem was Carvalho...why would the english fans be angry at Ronaldo and not Carvalho, how come that the media is talking that Ronaldo should not return to england and that he will be booed in every stadium he sets foot and not Carvalho????
Clearly Carvalho did absolutely nothing, so that whole line is a complete non sequitur. However I must say you are operating under the rather strange assumption that there needs to be a legitimate rationale to turn one of our lads into public enemy number one. Compared to Becks 98 and Phil 2000 Rooney himself is satan, let alone Ronaldo. We are just lucky that the odious little Portuguese has drawn the ire away from our Wayne.
The media is talking about Ronaldo getting hammered because we all know that is exactly what will happen. It was getting pretty bad towards the end of the season anyway, and he had already lost half the Stretty and got a fair proportion of those actually giving him abuse. Throw opposition fans into the mix as well... The important difference between now and the previous occasions is our support is as annoyed with the player because Ronaldo shafted a Red. You do seem to be missing the magnitude of Ronaldo’s crimes, not only in trying to get Rooney in trouble, but the smarmy wink afterwards that really got backs up, or for me the blatant lie afterwards. Ronaldo’s protestations that he was simply charging to the ref and declaring it was a foul are just a wee bit hollow given the ref had clearly given the foul long before Ronaldo went off on one. Had he been man enough to say he was just doing what was best for the team he was representing I could have stomached it, but the lies just compound the offence.
well first of all ronaldo isnt leaving man utd as he said july 12.
I really wouldn’t pay much attention to that - and for the record he didn’t say anything like that at all, it was very much a keeping options open statement - Ronaldo right now is probably engaged in standard footballer practice at these times; doing everything he can to engineer a move, while publicly denying he actually wants to go at every opportunity so he doesn’t waive his signing on fee stage payments. It is important to note he only signed an extension a few months back so we are talking a substantial sum he will lose if he formally requests a transfer. Ruud has been doing exactly the same all summer, never verging from the ‘I’d like to stay, but it all depends on the club’ line. These days I pretty much treat that sort of statement as a transfer request. When Ronaldo says he is staying without any qualifications whatsoever you can take him seriously.
Wolfster
24-07-2006, 04:44 PM
but still one thing that i really dun get, is that little push deserving a red card???
i think that rooney got teh red for the step on carvalho...
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