Champions League Thread

[rhys_utd]

On the 30th August this Thursday the champions league group stages will be drawn at 4.30pm live on skysportsnews

[rooneyNo10]

I hope our group is easy! I bet we are in the same group as real madrid! Hope so i want ronnie to run rings around that pr*ck heinze!

[samdav]

we cant play real madrid were both top seeds

[rooneyNo10]

Oh right, didn't realise! Still hope we play them at some point in the competition!

[carlyluvsunited]

I pray Steaua Bucuresti get same group as United or Liverpool....

This will be so good for Steaua.....big, big name come to our country
and we make plenty money from this - then maybe get better player and who
knows.........maybe win the Champs League AGAIN one day.

Steaua beat Barcelona in final before you know !!!

This year I like to see United make big effort even against small teams.

No more losing to team like FC Copenhagen !!!!

This is no good for pride or morale.....win every game like you NEED the
points.......a winning run makes thing seem much easier I think.

[Lawbreaker1944]

I think Real Madrid was in group with Steaua several years ago


Tonight Sparta is going to steam-rolled Arsenal and then I wish they will be drawn to the group with MUFC.

[andycole9]

as long as we stay away from the russian teams and don't have to travel to far i don't care who we get, we are seeded so we will miss all the big teams, we will qualify no matter who we get

[carlyluvsunited]

as long as we stay away from the russian teams and don't have to travel to far i don't care who we get, we are seeded so we will miss all the big teams, we will qualify no matter who we get

This attitude will get United beaten !!!

Copenhagen, Celtic make life difficult last year when this should have been easy days.

I say United will qualify if they play very well and CONCENTRATE on every game !!!

Teams like Steaua and other smnaller club can give you a headache if you think they just give up and let you win - they will never do this - they try their very best to get a big, big win you know !!!

[SolskjaertheLegend]

I dont really mind who we get as long as we win every game and qualify for the knockout stages :)

[danfelixbuffy]

i always think its best not to have a too easy group, or with one good team other than united in it to help us keep the standard of our game up.

[rhys_utd]

it doesn't really matter who we get as long as we play good football and concentrate for all the games and qualify for the knockout stages

[pilkytm]

i JUST HOPE WE MANAGE TO QUALIFY!
I AGREE WITH CARLY WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON EVERY GAME NO GOOD FEILDIN HALF A TEAM AND LOOSING EASY GAMES CAUSIN US TO STRUGLE LATER ON !!!

[carlyluvsunited]

it doesn't really matter who we get as long as we play good football and concentrate for all the games and qualify for the knockout stages

I could have sworn this is what I said, lol.....now you are my echo huh :confused:

[pilkytm]

Lol He's Only Backin Up Your Point Arent You Rhys? :d

Poor Lads Only 14

[1luv1utd]

If we don't reach at least the quarter final this time around we aren't going to be top seeded anymore and that is not good, definitely not the end of the world but its better to be top seeded.

Playing the way we are, the patient possession play, I think we can go far as this style seems to be better suited to the Champions League

[carlyluvsunited]

Lol He's Only Backin Up Your Point Arent You Rhys? :d

Poor Lads Only 14I know this - I only make joke with him, lol :p :p

[carlyluvsunited]

If we don't reach at least the quarter final this time around we aren't going to be top seeded anymore and that is not good, definitely not the end of the world but its better to be top seeded.

Playing the way we are, the patient possession play, I think we can go far as this style seems to be better suited to the Champions LeagueSo long as we dont end up like Liverpool - going all the way in the Champs League and being no good for Prem League - I dont like the sound of this plan :(

[pilkytm]

lol ok

yeh we should concentrate on the league especially with the "rocky" start we've had lol we need to get a good run under our belt 1st:)

i dont look at the table until at least 10 games in thatswhen it will work out and i can assure you that city will be no where near the top lmao

Fighting relegation for x-mas :D

[1luv1utd]

We wont end up like Liverpool lol. I think the biggest challenge is mixing Manchester United style, with continental European style. Its still a mystery how we can work it out, but with our bigger squad, a defensive midfielder (finally) and a lot of experienced heads in Europe we can go all the way. The key is to raise our game when it comes to the knock-out stages.

[rhys_utd]

Lol He's Only Backin Up Your Point Arent You Rhys? :d

Poor Lads Only 14

lol exactly :cool:

[carlyluvsunited]

lol exactly :cool:Sorry Mr....I only joke with you OK.

If I am mad with you it is a bit different - I go a bit bloody mental, lol...:eek:

[carlyluvsunited]

we can go all the way. The key is to raise our game when it comes to the knock-out stages.

Last season this was almost perfect - right until the home game with Milan at 3-2 it was still OK - 2 away goal yes but 1 goal lead......just a draw - a little draw...........

But when chips were down - United fell short.....they fall very, very short in this game and even now I cannot work out what go wrong that night ....

I like to say Milan play the best they have for 5 or 6 years on that night - but this is maybe not true !!!

Something is missing when it comes to the BIGGEST games - and I dont see anything to make me believe things are any different now !!!

[Jazz 16]

Last season this was almost perfect - right until the home game with Milan at 3-2 it was still OK - 2 away goal yes but 1 goal lead......just a draw - a little draw...........

But when chips were down - United fell short.....they fall very, very short in this game and even now I cannot work out what go wrong that night ....

I like to say Milan play the best they have for 5 or 6 years on that night - but this is maybe not true !!!

Something is missing when it comes to the BIGGEST games - and I dont see anything to make me believe things are any different now !!!

I do. Owen Hargreaves is and hopefully will be the difference. He has plenty of experience in Europe and will give the defence the vital protection. I believe that we could have beaten Milan if he was there. Kaka ran riot against us. He wouldnt have been as effective if OH had been there. We can now play 4-4-2 in Europe instead of messing about with 4-5-1 and Rooney on the wing.

[unitedred]

Personally pining for a group with Porto. :cool:

[PrinceZane]

I think they should do the draw on friday so I can watch it :D

You guys will have to keep me posted since I'll be working :(

[owenrooneyruud]

cant wait...

[carlyluvsunited]

I think they should do the draw on friday so I can watch it :D

You guys will have to keep me posted since I'll be working :(

I think it will be posted on here maybe 3 minutes after they make this draw, lol.:)

[Wazza1989]

i think..this year...we'll have as roma...celtic....and slavia prague

[1luv1utd]

I don't want to meet Roma, they will have a point to prove and I'd like to avoid them.

All the teams in the 2nd pot are very difficult, the easiest teams are PSV and Athens (if they make it through.)

I'd like to meet Werder Bremen as we have never met them before.

[Lawbreaker1944]

i think..this year...we'll have as roma...celtic....and slavia prague
Behold! Slavia overrided Ajax. The golman Vaniak is truly pure class, so beware of Slavia. (But for me it would be the only chance how to see United in action)

But when United played with Sparta (in Prague), the tickets were almost unavailable.

[rhys_utd]

who cares who's in our group, finish top and then let the good times roll :D

[rhys_utd]

who would you like to see in our griup this season then ?

[Wazza1989]

PSV....TSK Moscow...Olimpiakos Pireu

[carlyluvsunited]

You opened a thread on Champs League.....now you open another one !!

Why is this then.?

Keep information for one subject in one thread if you could please.

http://www.manutdtalk.com/forums/man-utd-chat/2681-champions-league-draw.html

[owenrooneyruud]

English clubs in top seeds

English clubs Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United are all among the eight top seeds for Thursday's UEFA Champions League draw for the group stage.


The English giants are joined by two from Spain - Barcelona and Real Madrid - plus title holders AC Milan and their city rivals Inter.



FOLLOW THE UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DRAW LIVE ON SKY SPORTS.COM FROM 4.30 PM

Celtic are among the third seeds in the draw with Rangers among the fourth seeds.

Before the names are drawn out of the hat UEFA are due to announce sweeping changes to the format of the competition.

UEFA president Michel Platini is expected to confirm the details of his plans to open up the Champions League to wider competition, specifically by giving domestic cup winners an opportunity to make it into the 32-team group phase.

It is understood that his plans would have 16 cup winners from Europe's leading countries in a qualifying competition for four places in the group stage of the Champions League. This qualifying event would be run in parallel to a qualifying competition based on domestic league positions for 12 other places, to join the 16 teams who qualify automatically.

you lots probaly knew this but just posting it for the people who didnt know

[RichardsReds]

What time is the draw?

[SolskjaertheLegend]

What time is the draw?

5pm i think

[1luv1utd]

Does anybody know what other channel is going to be broadcasting this event or is it only sky sports!

[carlyluvsunited]

Just Sky Sports I think.

Go to.........

http://www.skysports.com/football/draw/ucl_stream

Please God Steaua Bucuresti 'v' Manchester United :p :)

[SolskjaertheLegend]

Cech just got European Club Goalkeeper of the year at the ceremony

Man Utd are in Group F

[Red Devil]

Please God Steaua Bucuresti 'v' Manchester United :p :)leave me out of this ;)

Club defender of the year: Paulo Maldini

United joined by Roma

Club Midfielder of the Year: Scholes was nominated but it went to Seedorf

[dannyb88]

Group F So far
Man.Utd
Roma


I fixed it for you - RD

[SolskjaertheLegend]

One of the teams joining United in Group F are AS Roma :eek:

Lets hope for a repeat of 7-1!!!

[dannyb88]

Group F
Man Utd
Roma

think ill leave the informing to you Solskjaer legend your doin a better job!

[SolskjaertheLegend]

Club Midfielder of the year is Seedorf

[Jazz 16]

Nice Roma again. They will be sick!

[SolskjaertheLegend]

The next team to be drawn in Uniteds group is Sporting Clube
:rolleyes:

[Red Devil]

Group F So Far:

MUFC
Roma
Sporting Lisbon


Steua Bucharest go into Group H

Club Best forward: Ronaldo & Rooney in nominees - Winner: Kaka

[SolskjaertheLegend]

Steaua will play Arsenal & Sevilla/AEK Athens.....carly wont be happy not getting United :p

[SolskjaertheLegend]

European Club forward of the year is Kaka

[SolskjaertheLegend]

Last team to join United, Roma and Sporting is....Dinamo Kiev :)

Not a bad draw.

[Red Devil]

Group F:

United
Roma
Sporting Lisbon
Dinamo Kiev

[carlyluvsunited]

Group A

Liverpool
FC Porto
Marseille
Besiktas

Group B

Chelsea
Valencia
Schalke
Rosenborg

Group C

Real Madrid
Werder Bremen
Lazio
Olympiakos

Group D

AC Milan
Benfica
Celtic
Shakhtar Donetsk

Group E

Barcelona
Lyon
Stuttgart
Rangers

Group F

Manchester United
AS Roma
Sporting Lisbon
Dinamo Kiev

Group G

Inter Milan
PSV Eindhoven
CSKA Moscow
Fnerbahce

Group H

Arsenal
Seville/AEK
Steaua Bucuresti
Slavia Prague

[carlyluvsunited]

Steaua will play Arsenal & Sevilla/AEK Athens.....carly wont be happy not getting United :p

F*cking *******s I am so ****ed off Grrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!!

Now we make a mess of Arsenal for sure !!!!!!!!

[Red Devil]

That is a tough group!!! We will need to improve 100% to get out of that one.

Language Carly - you should be setting a good example!!!

[carlyluvsunited]

Language Carly - you should be setting a good example!!!

I am very sad girl now you know. This make me pretty mad, lol.

But we will qualify from this group.

United too make easy journey through their group.....

Manchester United 'v' Steaua Bucuresti in knockout maybe, lol.

[andycole9]

we have got a tough group this year but maybe that will do us good, no more resting on our laurels like we did last year against the likes of fc copenhagen and celtic, we will need to be ready right from the off this year. so hold on guy's this could be a bumpy ride. but saying that i think qualify top of the group

ave it!

[owenrooneyruud]

liking this group....roma would want there revenge and nani facing his old club

[1luv1utd]

Wow!!! a very nail-biting group, I'm tingling, with fear and excitement.

Roma are going to want their revenge, forget about the 7-1 last year. I said earlier in the thread that they are in the one team I would've like to avoid but well they are with us and they have improved just like us. Dont get too downhearted though, the truth is they probably fear us a lot more than we fear them, because quite honestly we are the better team.

Sporting Lisbon are another exciting team and I can't wait to see them in action. We haven't played them for so long in Europe. I can see us getting all 3 points at Old Trafford and we will probably get a draw at the very least away against them. I honestly can't see them beating us if we play to our potential.

Last time we met Dynamo Kiev was in the 2001 Champions League when Sheringham scored the only goal of the game to put United through to the 2nd group stage. Watching their games in the Champions League they are no pushovers and we shouldn't take them lightly.

We are the favorites however and if we play at our best no one can match us!

[Thomas G]

Awesome group. Cant wait for Roma away :D

[andycole9]

Wow!!! a very nail-biting group, I'm tingling, with fear and excitement.


Last time we met Dynamo Kiev was in the 2001 Champions League when Sheringham scored the only goal of the game to put United through to the 2nd group stage. Watching their games in the Champions League they are no pushovers and we shouldn't take them lightly.


yea i remember this one they could of knocked us out- had they converted a golden chance in the last min they put it past the post

please correct me if i'm wrong but im sure it's that game!

all the games will be tough home and away but i think this will make us play better we'll be on our toes from game one

[BALROG]

All i care about is that we get to kick ac milans f.ass at home and especially away , i pray its 3-0, then take final burning the field away !!!

[Anderson's God]

Well I look to this group though out of the other Prem teams United by far got the toughest!

[mulletsneverdie]

one heeeelllll o a ****y group were in, hard as nails, but squad depth and the different styles of players we have, particularly attackin midfield, could be what sees us make it look easier than it should be, given that hopefully old trafford becomes the terror machine it should be and fergie-queiroz get the squad rotation spot on, we'll be ok

[SolskjaertheLegend]

Awesome group. Cant wait for Roma away :D

were you there last season?

[redtilldead]

I'm delighted with the group. As long as Fergie ditches this cautious european approach, we'll sail through. I'm not underestimating our opponents at all, but they're all attacking teams which suits us best. Recent years we've had to deal with Celtic, Copenhagen and Lille Hoping for draws each time. It's annoying as hell!

[keane7]

Group A
Liverpool
Porto
Marseille
Besiktas

Group B
Chelsea
Valencia
Schalke
Rosenborg

Group C
Real Madrid
Werder Bremen
Lazio
Olympiacos

Group D
AC Milan
Benfica
Celtic
Shakhtar Donetsk

Group E
Barcelona
Lyon
Stuttgart
Rangers

Group F
Manchester United
Roma
Sporting Lisbon
Dinamo Kiev

Group G
Inter Milan
PSV Eindhoven
CSKA Moscow
Fenerbahce

Group H
Arsenal
Sevilla/AEK Athens
Steaua Bucharest
Slavia Prague

[1luv1utd]

Our Fixtures

19/11/2007 Sporting vs Man United
2/10/2007 Man United vs Roma
23/10/2007 Dynamo Kiev vs Man United
7/11/2007 Man United vs Dynamo Kiev
27/11/2007 Man United vs Sporting
12/12/2007 Roma vs Man United

[Wazza1989]

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Sir Alex Ferguson admitted Manchester United's rematch with Roma will provide the talking point of their Champions League campaign.

Last season's quarter-final tussle between the pair was scarred by violence, with fighting marring both legs.

The trouble overshadowed one of the finest European performances of all-time by Sir Alex Ferguson's men, who thrashed the Serie A outfit 7-1 at Old Trafford after losing the first leg 2-1.

"That will be the talking point after last season," said Ferguson.

However, the United boss also has other major challenges to ponder, not least a testing trip to Dynamo Kiev and two encounters with Sporting Lisbon, the club which provided the Red Devils with both Cristiano Ronaldo and Nani.

"It is a very tight group," he added. "Dynamo Kiev are a good side.

"We also have two of Sporting Lisbon's former players, so we know a bit about them."

Ferguson will hope to avoid a repeat and has already set his side the task of gaining 10 points to get them on the road to bettering last season's semi-final berth.

"The whole group possesses some very interesting aspects," he said. "We hope we can get 10 points. It will be difficult but if we can get that I think we will qualify."

[Wazza1989]

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Uefa Chiefs were on red alert last night after Manchester United were handed a Champions League return trip to Roma - just months after the violence that scarred last season's quarter-final clash.

Baton-wielding riot police steamed in to United fans after the unprotected supporters were pelted with missiles in March, leaving 11 Old Trafford supporters needing hospital treatment.

And as United chief executive David Gill demanded no repeat when the final Group F tie is played on December 12, UEFA pledged to ensure the 3,600 travelling English fans will be protected.

William Gaillard, special advisor to UEFA President Michel Platini, said: "We will take special care of Manchester United fans because we know they had trouble last time and will tighten up security to make sure they don't get a repeat of the incident.

"We will be liaising with the clubs and the local authorities. The Italian FA have a new training programme for stewards. It means we will have well trained stewards instead of riot police."

Gill said: "Our fans were blameless and what happened was unacceptable. There was a comprehensive report on the events last time and we will look at that again with UEFA."

But senior Roma official Antonio Tempestilli said: "We do not believe the issue of the fans and the security in the stadium is our problem. It is a problem for the police and the justice department.

"What happened was a shame for football. That violence is something we do not want to see again. After the bad experiences we have to act very strongly to avoid a repeat.

"But I hope the same sort of measures will be used in Manchester too. We must not forget that Roma fans were attacked out there."

[rhys_utd]

first upcoming champions league game is on 19th september

man utd v sporting lisbon

what do u think the score will be peeps ?

[rhys_utd]

Roma coach Luciano Spalletti insists last season's drubbing at the hands of United will have no bearing on the new Champions League campaign.

The Reds hammered the Italians 7-1 at Old Trafford in April's quarter-final, second leg, sealing an 8-3 aggregate passage into the last four. But, having been drawn in Group F alongside United, Sporting Lisbon and Dynamo Kiev, Spalletti is confident of progress.

"Last season's 7-1 defeat in Manchester is the past, this is a new tournament," he said. "We will do our best knowing that we have everything that is needed to go through.

"It's a tough group but in this kind of competition you need to have great qualities whoever the opponents are and Roma have great qualities, considering what we have done so far."

United and Roma are favourites to qualify, according to Sporting coach Paulo Bento, who will renew acquaintances with former players Cristiano Ronaldo and Nani

[rooneyNo10]

I predict a thrashing! Maybe 3-5 nil! Nani and ronaldo both to score (if they play obviously)!

[reddwarf]

Easy there fella, 3-5 nil?

Our away form in Europe has been nothing short of abysmal for years. I'd be happy with a draw.

[chiboygeorge]

I will be Happy with 2-0 but Sporting will Counter and Defend throughout th whole game they know Manutd. Manutd is not Beleneses.