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KingSingh
26-07-2006, 06:56 PM
Most people might assume i'm talking about central midfield but i actually beleive that our weakest position is right back.
Gary neville is probably the best right back in the premeirhip but thats not saying much. Don't get me wrong i think neville is a united legend but he is getting along in years and one of the main reasons for his success is gone. David Beckham. Neville and becks and such a great understanding that it made out right side that much stronger. I feel since the departure of beckham neville has never been the same player. I'm sure he can do a good job this season but we need to find a replacement soon.
As for cover in that position we have john o'shea and wes brown both of whom are more comfortable playing in the middle. Wes has made huge strides after his injuries and to put him at right back would be a mistake i think. Also no disrespect but i think o'shea is becoming the new philip neville. Always reliable but never great and with united thats not good enough to guarantee a starters spot.

Therefore we have an ageing legend and no one who can adequately replace him.
I'd say we need to find a right backeither in january or next summer.
Possible players: Burdisso form inter, cicinho from real madrid

manutdc
26-07-2006, 07:12 PM
Gazza can put in a few more years, given his experience. As most players grow older they make up for their age by the experience they have. He may not be the best right back in the world, but he's up there still.

I think in many cases he's judged harshly because of his unspectacular style of play. He's very minimal fuss and does his job well, and for the most part consistently.

KingSingh
26-07-2006, 07:52 PM
Gary neville is class no doubt about it but in case of injury or suspension who do we have that could adequately replace him?
No one. Assuming that rion and wes are fergies first choice center backs the only replacement for gary neville would be o'shea and i think other teams would be able to exploit that especially in europe where we will come up against skillful wide players

Da Devil
26-07-2006, 08:07 PM
Our weakest position is in central midfield...Right back is a position we will handle next year or the one after that....we have worse problems right now than Right back and I'm sure that for now Phil Bardsley, O'shea and Brown can cover for Neville should he get injured...As for Neville's fitness...I believe he has two more years ahead of him at Utd.

Red Devil
26-07-2006, 09:54 PM
We have one already, Bardsley

KingSingh
26-07-2006, 10:05 PM
bardsly is unproven in the premeirship. Based on displays like tonights he won't be for long though. Still i feel our right side defense is the place most opposition coaches will exploit. Also ronaldo loses the ball often so i'm afraid the pace of neville tracking back might get exposed.

Red Devil
26-07-2006, 10:17 PM
Your forgetting that Bardsley filled in when Neville was injured and did very well. He proved he can handle himself, built strong and can run. He will do ok.

Schmeichel#1
26-07-2006, 11:37 PM
I think it's still the midfield area where we're lightweight..i think that's our weakest position.

Vinnie Jones
27-07-2006, 01:39 AM
bardsly is unproven in the premeirship. Based on displays like tonights he won't be for long though. Still i feel our right side defense is the place most opposition coaches will exploit. Also ronaldo loses the ball often so i'm afraid the pace of neville tracking back might get exposed.

Midfield is the area that is the weakest. I understand your misgivings about right back but worring about cover instead of first teamers doesn't make sense. We need someone to command the midfield right now. Sure Bardsly is unproven but given the chance, I believe he will succeed. He will not be at Nevilles level, but it has taken Neville time to get there himself.

manutdc
27-07-2006, 03:47 AM
Bardsley did very well when he filled in for Gary last season. He may not be top-class cover, but he did his job well. Sure, we could do with a replacement, but there is no doubt that midfield is the weakest point in the team.

KingSingh
27-07-2006, 08:36 AM
CM- scholes, o'shea, fletcher and giggs.
RB- neville, bardsley, o'shea

i still think our midfield situation is being unfairly criticized. I beleive scholes is still world class and the others do a good job when needed, after all we did come second without scholes last season.

thacase
27-07-2006, 12:22 PM
Sorry Scholes is no longer World Class........................Fletcher and O'shea will never be the answer. Giigs yes perfprmed well, but is there much left in his tank. Compare his pace to when he started at 17 to now.........a lot is gone .We should not need to rely on 30something midfielders. Is Fergie just showing too much faith in palyers that have brought him success previously...............We lost out on OBI mikel, he will be a star

manutdc
27-07-2006, 04:20 PM
KingSingh, Giggs will most probably be utilised on the wing, where he should be. That leaves us with Scholes, O'Shea, and Fletcher in the middle, which hardly inspires confidence. Scholes is not the player he used to be, though he can go on for a season or two more, maybe. O'Shea is a defender by trade, and is no natural midfielder. Fletcher can't win a ball or dominate games for his life.

And don't forget - there's two central midfield spots and one right back spot. That means we've got at least 3 players who can fill in for one spot, 4 if you count Wes. That's 4 for 2 spots in midfield.

KingSingh
27-07-2006, 04:52 PM
giggs has lost his pace, and park is pushing for a spot on the wing, so IF we don't sign anybody, then a midifled of ronaldo, scholes, giggs, park. with scholes taking up defensive duties as well.
Thats not as bad as it seems even though we don't really have depth.

Hunter
28-07-2006, 06:00 PM
Without a doubt the centre midfield is our weakest area, but I agree with your first post. Gaz is getting older and weaker but dont't get me wrong I love the bloke, but getting a new RB is the least of our problems at the moment. I feel we also need a new striker after Ruud's deperature, but of course, cautious Fergie will not buy marks my words!

MJ Glazer
05-08-2006, 10:45 PM
The boardroom+darren fletcher

Ajant
06-08-2006, 03:30 AM
Centre of the park or our forwards really...I just dotn think we've got the goals in us. Our midfield has improved with the acqusition of Carrick, but it still isn't as good as it used to be. Scholes is getting on, and we'll need a replacement for him soon, Fletcher for Example in my view, cant be that replacement attackingly or defensively.