Anderson's Antics!

[Jazz 16]

Ok before you all get on my case, I think he had a great game today and played very well but I have a problem......
I often criticise other players from other teams for diving or trying to get oppostion players booked but when I saw Anderson rolling around the floor today and trying to get players booked I was embarassed by his behaviour. It was pretty disgraceful I think. At least Edwin got in there to calm things down.
Am I on my own here or does anyone feel the same as myself?
Your thoughts please.

[Damian]

Yes i agree... he did play well today and i backe dhim for a goal (never mind) but you are right his rolling around and waving imaginary cards was bad i hate it when others do it..But he was trying to get Fabregas booked so i will allow this as Fabragas is a c**t gd player but a c**t and he did roll around abit at the start then dnt like Anderson doing it... T****r :D

[Keano's fan]

Pathetic, absolutely pathetic. I said the same about Nani last week and i say it again now, United players are fair players. we dont cheat, we dont wave imaginary cards, we dont dive etc And the young new comers need to learn .. FAST.

[Jazz 16]

Pathetic, absolutely pathetic. I said the same about Nani last week and i say it again now, United players are fair players. we dont cheat, we dont wave imaginary cards, we dont dive etc And the young new comers need to learn .. FAST.

Exactly this wouldnt happen if a Keane or Neville had been on the pitch. They just simply wouldnt allow it on their watch. Im sure Fergie will have a word. And yes Nani seems to be overreacting at times as well. We dont need this kind of behaviour from United players.

[mulletsneverdie]

to be fair to anderson, it was a stinkin challenge and caught his ankle and looked pretty sore, seeing united players play fair and tough is something i love to see and i guess u gotta get what you give, but who right now has the keane\smudge attitude makin sure nobodies bein a *****, im guessin vidic or ferdinand to take the mantle, neville thinks he's hard but he aint, scholes or giggs aint the type, rooneys young and leads the line so he's enough on his plate, riovida will rule the world

[Keano's fan]

to be fair to anderson, it was a stinkin challenge and caught his ankle and looked pretty sore
NO NO NO it was undefendable. It was plain cheating, he didnt even catch him Anderson threw himself at the tackle and he got straight up after Fabregas got booked.

[mulletsneverdie]

he did catch him, i recorded it and ive seen it a few times, he caught him right on the ankle, clear as day

[Keano's fan]

So you are okay with Anderson rolling on the floor after minimum contact and getting straight up when the opponent gets booked ?

[Jazz 16]

he did catch him, i recorded it and ive seen it a few times, he caught him right on the ankle, clear as day

yes fair enouh he did catch him but it was a bit of an overreaction imo. He did an Eboue:o and trying to get players booked is a big no no. He will learn in time I hope.

[The_Red_Prince]

didnt expect him to do something as cheatful as that

[carlyluvsunited]

I think you’re right about Anderson’s performance, but wrong about his attitude.

It’s a simple fact, not often accepted by the English, that all players tell the
referee to book someone. The reason you see foreigners do it more often in the
Premiership is simple - they don’t speak the language as well.

We saw just a couple of weeks ago Gerrard tell the referee to send off a player -
we didn't see the imaginery card because he speaks English !!

Rooney has done it, Lampard has done it, John Terry does it.......I've seen Ryan
Giggs do it - They all do it.

At least waving the imaginary card is being honest.

Most players will condem others for asking for bookings in such a way, only to
then make the same point verbally to the ref.............and none of us knows what
is said verbally to a ref - so how can we really comment anyway !

[Jazz 16]

I think you’re right about Anderson’s performance, but wrong about his attitude.

It’s a simple fact, not often accepted by the English, that all players tell the
referee to book someone. The reason you see foreigners do it more often in the
Premiership is simple - they don’t speak the language as well.

We saw just a couple of weeks ago Gerrard tell the referee to send off a player -
we didn't see the imaginery card because he speaks English !!

Rooney has done it, Lampard has done it, John Terry does it.......I've seen Ryan
Giggs do it - They all do it.

At least waving the imaginary card is being honest.

Most players will condem others for asking for bookings in such a way, only to
then make the same point verbally to the ref.............and none of us knows what
is said verbally to a ref - so how can we really comment anyway !


I must say you make a good and valid point there Carly.
I started this thread to get an opinion as Im wondering what the general thought is. Im still unimpressed by his 'antics' but I take your point on board.......
I still think he has a lot of growing up to do.

[carlyluvsunited]

Well I know how frustrating it can be myself - you want to say something but you
cant - the language holds you back. So I do feel sorry for him - everything he
says is seen by everyone - as it is mostly sign language.

Rooney is a good example !

Watch him - if he is punished for a foul or something - always he has something
to say - he will swear to ref - he will point to where other offences take place
against him etc etc.........

Anderson is a good boy and he wont be a cheat I dont think so anyway !

[mulletsneverdie]

it wasn't minimum contact, i doubt they tackle each other with such incompetence in training and being new to the english game im not supprised by the way he reacted, he wasnt expecting a tackle like that and his reaction is only natural, whether the ref gives a card or not is up to him and i find it only a coincidence he got up when the ref had taken his appropriate action and decided to get on with the game. Im willin to let him off with the rolling around this time, first offence, he doesnt dive-which does bother me, he doesnt ***** out, he doesnt hesitate, all great attributes and were busy quarrelling over a single incident where he rolled two more times than is acceptable. He does need to wise up to the english game though, i didnt like the card wavin he was doin at some other point in the game.

christ, the arguments ended has it, good one carly, go anderson!

[NateR]

He did great again today, but i also agree, that such behavior is unecessary. He is young, give him time, he'll mature and cease such childish antics.

[rydersonthestorm]

I think alot of you also forget that he is a young player who has come from a country that doesn't dislike diving, until he has been at united abit longer i don't think anyone can really say to much.

[unitedred]

Ronaldo was much worse when he came to us at around the same age, he'll learn.

[Anderson's God]

I might be a big fan of Anderson, but I can't make excuses. Not one of his better days then!

[CROoney]

i see no problem in waving with an imaginary card towards the ref... clapping to a ref on the other hand is mocking, and disrespecting, waving is like saying -
"hey , this deserves a card"... i thought cesc deserved the card , anderson thought too...i would have done the same...i would have been ****ed too... what's a big deal . it's not like he did something wrong... to see the words like "**** you" coming out froom rooney's mouth is what we all should be emmbarased, not with waving to the ref... it is a common thing in football unfortunatelly

[carlyluvsunited]

i see no problem in waving with an imaginary card towards the ref... clapping to a ref on the other hand is mocking, and disrespecting, waving is like saying -
"hey , this deserves a card"... i thought cesc deserved the card , anderson thought too...i would have done the same...i would have been ****ed too... what's a big deal . it's not like he did something wrong... to see the words like "**** you" coming out froom rooney's mouth is what we all should be emmbarased, not with waving to the ref... it is a common thing in football unfortunatellyGood point actually.......

Although people complain today about Nani and his little roll on the pitch,
lol.......no one ever says a single word about players clapping the ref - which is
outright contempt !!

No one ever says a word either when you can clearly lip read players
saying "F*cking *****" and other such names towards the referee !!

Seems to me people worry more about a player trying some gamesmanship -
rather than foul and abusive language which can be seen by 1000s of young
children who look up to these players !!

[andycole9]

anderson was bang out of order of today not only is his behaviour unacceptable at utd it's also unacceptable in the english game full stop.

i was very ****ed off and angry today when i seen him do that, also nani is a bit of a diver and so was ronaldo and RVN when they 1st arrived fergie will soon sort them both out.

the thing we have to remember is that these 2 are very young and will learn quickly under fergie and while it's frustaing at the moment we have to remember that these foriegn players are brought up doing this, as this sort of behaviour is classed as good play in there countrys

[ron_aveiro]

yeah..not sure what language he talked to the ref..even if it was english, maybe a broken one..lol..so he showed a sign language to make his points clear..

[Ajant]

THat was ridiculous what he did and I'm glad Fabregas was letting him know its out of order...Evra play acts a bit too...not good!

[carlyluvsunited]

I found this article.........


Anderson has been a revelation for Manchester United, and when he came with
the massive price tag, and was given a starting eleven squad number, it
appeared as though it could go no other way.

It was his performance against Wigan that first got people talking, being subbed
on earlier than one would have previously hoped due to an injury on Vidic. He
was showing why Ferguson has taken such a leap of faith to fork out the money
he did on a relatively unknown, unproven, young talent.

With every game he has improved, playing surprisingly deep, and showing he can
play as comfortably alongside Scholes as Hargreaves. Something which I noted
time and again last season, was that when Scholes wasn’t on the pitch, the
team looked strikingly different. We missed him dreadfully when he wasn’t in the
centre of our midfield, and although not always costly, his absence certainly
effected us negatively. However, when United travelled to the Ukraine a fortnight
ago, and Anderson played alongside Fletcher due to late injury news on Scholes,
it was hardly noticeable that we were without our star passer of the ball.
Anderson was winning the ball, starting off moves, knocking the ball around the
pitch comfortably and accurately, and it was really rather remarkable how natural
the teenager looked in our team, bossing the midfield.

His performance again today, against Arsenal, can also not really be faulted.
Before making way for Carrick with fifteen minutes to go, he was arguably our
man of the match. To come up against the five man midfield of Arsenal, which
boasts the other young talents of Fabregas and Flamini, and still hold your own,
is very impressive.

However, despite his great performances, there is an area of his game which
must be stamped out immediately. It was disgraceful to see him call for the
booking of Arsenal players, holding an invisible card up in the referees face, and
possibly even worse seeing him role around in a ridiculous fashion after a foul by
Fabregas. The young Spaniard was quite right to mock the dramatics from
Anderson, and it really was an embarrassment seeing one of our lads behave in
such a way.

More of the great passing and tackling would be perfect, but United cannot and
must not tolerate the behaviour of Anderson today. To quote a well known
hypocrite and diver, we’ll have “none of that here.”

So Fergie, have a word will you.

[Justice]

Jesus christ guys calm down. Ronaldo used to be worse. You hear Fergie on MUTV? He wont put up with it.

[carlyluvsunited]

Jesus christ guys calm down. Ronaldo used to be worse. You hear Fergie on MUTV? He wont put up with it.You're the only one getting mad - we're just discussing it thats all.

[CROoney]

I'm sick of those double standards for divers and overreacters - that was over reacting not diving if i remember correctly...
so next time when one of our players says "**** you " to the ref, I'll be opening a thread about it ! let's cut that crap... there are a lot of things that do harm to this beautifull sport, we can't and won't change it... what anderson did was nothing... he persuaded the ref to card the player and over reacted a little bit ... wow ! a big deal !

[carlyluvsunited]

I'm sick of those double standards for divers and overreacters - that was over reacting not diving if i remember correctly...
so next time when one of our players says "**** you " to the ref, I'll be opening a thread about it ! let's cut that crap... there are a lot of things that do harm to this beautifull sport, we can't and won't change it... what anderson did was nothing... he persuaded the ref to card the player and over reacted a little bit ... wow ! a big deal !Feel free to open your thread.........

The more the merrier as they say :)

I agree with you about all the foul language !!

[rydersonthestorm]

I don't agree crooney none of the stuff is fine, swearing, diving, card waving and what your saying is the same double standard your complaining about.

[CROoney]

okay ryder... but why don't we open a thread about it and moan about it all the time... waving towards the ref is nothing... it's signalisation...not worth mentioning... what's wrong with everyone ? diving on the other hand is what should be cut out

[redmaster]

I didnt like what i saw anderson doing either, but I suspect thats to do with the culture he learned his football trade, I expect fergie to get that side out of his game.

He is young , give him a time im sure he wont do that again

[rydersonthestorm]

You will not see me agreeing with any of this, i stick with what i said none of it is fine and all the bull**** should be cut out.

[Ajant]

What is ridiculous is the seemingly rules difference between myself playing and say Gerrard. Foul language in my semi-pro game almost definitely results in a card. Like the laws state. But in the EPL etc, there's different standards. It all needs to be cut out, the language, and most importantly the play acting.

[reddwarf]

There is a theory going round that because Anderson cannot speak English he was making the hand gesture in trying to explain to the referee that he had booked 2 United players for the same offence (he also points to the other areas of the pitch where the United players were booked).

However, I was disappointed that he waved the imaginary card and was lucky to escape a booking for it (my understanding is that refs are now told to punish this behaviour). It needs explaining to him that this behaviour is not acceptable.

When he started rolling around after being tackled I initially burst out laughing because it looked comical, especially when he leapt to his feet as soon as the free-kick was given. But again this behaviour is unacceptable and he should be warned by the club about his future conduct.

When Ronaldo first came to the club he was diving etc but I think someone at the club has spoken to him about it because he doesn't seem to do it as often. Someone needs to do the same with Anderson...and Nani too.

[CROoney]

There is a theory going round that because Anderson cannot speak English he was making the hand gesture in trying to explain to the referee that he had booked 2 United players for the same offence (he also points to the other areas of the pitch where the United players were booked).

However, I was disappointed that he waved the imaginary card and was lucky to escape a booking for it (my understanding is that refs are now told to punish this behaviour). It needs explaining to him that this behaviour is not acceptable.

When he started rolling around after being tackled I initially burst out laughing because it looked comical, especially when he leapt to his feet as soon as the free-kick was given. But again this behaviour is unacceptable and he should be warned by the club about his future conduct.

When Ronaldo first came to the club he was diving etc but I think someone at the club has spoken to him about it because he doesn't seem to do it as often. Someone needs to do the same with Anderson...and Nani too.
ahhhh...if only everyone would speak with gestures towards the refs instead of calling them filthy and disgusting names... Would it have made the difference if he'd said - "Ref, that was a ****ing card" We see it all the time from our players... Even Giggsy... He gets in the ref's face often , and speaks with him, makes pressure to card other players...And no one says a word about that ! When J.Cole tackled Ronaldo, everyone was in the ref's face, and that was OK and this wasn't ?! Why ? Is it only if someone God forbbid makes a gesture for everyone to see it, then he's a "cheat" or so... And this post wasn't aimed directly at you, it was to everyone...

[reddwarf]

ahhhh...if only everyone would speak with gestures towards the refs instead of calling them filthy and disgusting names... Would it have made the difference if he'd said - "Ref, that was a ****ing card" We see it all the time from our players... Even Giggsy... He gets in the ref's face often , and speaks with him, makes pressure to card other players...And no one says a word about that ! When J.Cole tackled Ronaldo, everyone was in the ref's face, and that was OK and this wasn't ?! Why ? Is it only if someone God forbbid makes a gesture for everyone to see it, then he's a "cheat" or so... And this post wasn't aimed directly at you, it was to everyone...

I know what you mean. If refs enforced the rules about foul and abusive language then Rooney would be sent off in every game because swearing is part of his natural dialogue. A mate of mine at school used to say the f-word in literally every sentence.

How's your f'ing day been? Mine's been f'ing good. What the f' do you mean you don't like me using the f-word? etc

Hand gestures are clearly visible to everyone in the crowd though - I think that's why they are clamping down on it because if opposition fans see it then it can cause trouble.

[Keano4taoiseach]

Ok before you all get on my case, I think he had a great game today and played very well but I have a problem......
I often criticise other players from other teams for diving or trying to get oppostion players booked but when I saw Anderson rolling around the floor today and trying to get players booked I was embarassed by his behaviour. It was pretty disgraceful I think. At least Edwin got in there to calm things down.
Am I on my own here or does anyone feel the same as myself?
Your thoughts please.



You're right in theory Jazz and I agree...that kind of behaviour is unnaceptable..

However....Anderson is 19 or 20 years of age and was playing in probably the fiercest of matches between two old rivals and at that age you have to allow for tempers being frayed and sadly Anderson got overly excited..
I see noone has mentioned Adeybayors clear dive when supposedly tackled by Evra in the opening minutes of the game..????
Both teams were tackling hard and committing fouls...yet only United players had received cards..
This was imho what Anderson and what I hope Anderson was implying when he raised his hand in gesture..
Rolling around on the ground was disappointing to see but it was not the worst and will not be the I have ever seen...
He had a great game and worked like a trojan all over the pitch...
He is the kind of player we need at United and hopefully in another year or so he will have matured into a fine world class player and hopefully will have cut that silly stuff out of his game...
He is still very young and we see far worse from seasoned professionals week in week out.....so leave the kid alone and give him a chance to redeem himself and prove himself in the future...
I'm sure his team mates will have a word and if not hopefully Fergie will.
He looked like a leader out there and long may it continue...albeit without the antics...

[CROoney]

You're right in theory Jazz and I agree...that kind of behaviour is unnaceptable..

However....Anderson is 19 or 20 years of age and was playing in probably the fiercest of matches between two old rivals and at that age you have to allow for tempers being frayed and sadly Anderson got overly excited..
I see noone has mentioned Adeybayors clear dive when supposedly tackled by Evra in the opening minutes of the game..????
Both teams were tackling hard and committing fouls...yet only United players had received cards..
This was imho what Anderson and what I hope Anderson was implying when he raised his hand in gesture..
Rolling around on the ground was disappointing to see but it was not the worst and will not be the I have ever seen...
He had a great game and worked like a trojan all over the pitch...
He is the kind of player we need at United and hopefully in another year or so he will have matured into a fine world class player and hopefully will have cut that silly stuff out of his game...
He is still very young and we see far worse from seasoned professionals week in week out.....so leave the kid alone and give him a chance to redeem himself and prove himself in the future...
I'm sure his team mates will have a word and if not hopefully Fergie will.
He looked like a leader out there and long may it continue...albeit without the antics...
you mean near the thouchline ??? That's because Evra swept him away--- Ade escaped harder contact by throwing himself over Evra's sliding body... He could have been injured---- Evra kicked him out of balance... It was a clear card... Even Evra admit it with no complaining... He slided him away mate

I know what you mean. If refs enforced the rules about foul and abusive language then Rooney would be sent off in every game because swearing is part of his natural dialogue. A mate of mine at school used to say the f-word in literally every sentence.

How's your f'ing day been? Mine's been f'ing good. What the f' do you mean you don't like me using the f-word? etc

Hand gestures are clearly visible to everyone in the crowd though - I think that's why they are clamping down on it because if opposition fans see it then it can cause trouble.
I agree , but that's my point... It was nothing wrong in it... He insulted no one , especially not the ref... That's why the ref didn't book him... Why should he mate ? He was only saying - hey...that deserves the card... Why making the big deal out of it ? I really can't see the case

[Andersonisthebest-kieran]

Hes still only young remember...He'l learn :=)

[Teveth_32]

Nani also seems to roll about to much

but their olny 19 and 20.

[Jazz 16]

ahhhh...if only everyone would speak with gestures towards the refs instead of calling them filthy and disgusting names... Would it have made the difference if he'd said - "Ref, that was a ****ing card" We see it all the time from our players... Even Giggsy... He gets in the ref's face often , and speaks with him, makes pressure to card other players...And no one says a word about that ! When J.Cole tackled Ronaldo, everyone was in the ref's face, and that was OK and this wasn't ?! Why ? Is it only if someone God forbbid makes a gesture for everyone to see it, then he's a "cheat" or so... And this post wasn't aimed directly at you, it was to everyone...

Bad language will always be in the game. I dont think its even half as bad as play acting or waving imaginary cards about(i do take your point on board that he cant speak English-but still....)
And as for Joe Coles tackle, Im glad everyone got in the refs face. Those kind of tackles can ruin careers. That filthy two footed lunge on his Achilles was disgraceful. He had no intention of playing the ball. He was just out to hurt Ronnie. The only reason he didnt get sent off was because Chelsea were already down to 10 men.

[Anderson's God]

You're right in theory Jazz and I agree...that kind of behaviour is unnaceptable..

However....Anderson is 19 or 20 years of age and was playing in probably the fiercest of matches between two old rivals and at that age you have to allow for tempers being frayed and sadly Anderson got overly excited..
I see noone has mentioned Adeybayors clear dive when supposedly tackled by Evra in the opening minutes of the game..????
Both teams were tackling hard and committing fouls...yet only United players had received cards..
This was imho what Anderson and what I hope Anderson was implying when he raised his hand in gesture..
Rolling around on the ground was disappointing to see but it was not the worst and will not be the I have ever seen...
He had a great game and worked like a trojan all over the pitch...
He is the kind of player we need at United and hopefully in another year or so he will have matured into a fine world class player and hopefully will have cut that silly stuff out of his game...
He is still very young and we see far worse from seasoned professionals week in week out.....so leave the kid alone and give him a chance to redeem himself and prove himself in the future...
I'm sure his team mates will have a word and if not hopefully Fergie will.
He looked like a leader out there and long may it continue...albeit without the antics...


What Arsenal match doesn't get "sadly" over excited with United???
Tell me, because every game with Arsenal and United - it gets hot tempered and over excited. But Anderson does one thing, every United fan and football fan is raging with him. Look at all the other incidents caused by Arsenal previously, not half a much controversy!!!! Give him a break he is young, he will learn, lay off him for once. Ever since he turned up at United, few have backed him, endless critics including pundits......give em a chance and a break.....for once!

[Nirk]

Hleb should be dissapointed, all he does is go down like a clown... he is so soft

[andycole9]

Nani also seems to roll about to much

but their olny 19 and 20.
on and off the pitch ;)

[CROoney]

Bad language will always be in the game. I dont think its even half as bad as play acting or waving imaginary cards about(i do take your point on board that he cant speak English-but still....)
And as for Joe Coles tackle, Im glad everyone got in the refs face. Those kind of tackles can ruin careers. That filthy two footed lunge on his Achilles was disgraceful. He had no intention of playing the ball. He was just out to hurt Ronnie. The only reason he didnt get sent off was because Chelsea were already down to 10 men.
I can't believe you actually said that... Why is that ? Do tell me please mate ! So, you're basicaly telling me that communication with the ref can be accaptable only with no gestures... That's bull man... A **** on the plot is a **** on the plot, no matter how right it looks...If what Anderson did was wrong ( in terms of waving ), then every surrounding of the ref is wrong . No matter if the incident that has accured before is a nasty tackle from behind or a little less nasty. As I remember it , it was a tckle from behind, thus a yellow card is appropriate ( maybe I'm wrong ). Anderson was persuading the ref to punish Cesc, Giggs and Scholes did that too at Chelsea match... Where's the difference.. Only in type of communaction... C'mon , if you look at it closely, you'll see that I'm right.. Just consider it , will ya
And foul language is AS bad if not the WORST type of communication...Would you rather see someone insulting your dead parents or you or someone implying that you should card a player... I would chose a second... Besides play acting , Anderson did nothing wrong... I can't believe it is being disccussed only at English forums... I haven't found a single article in the medias about it... At least foreign,,,
Cheers

What Arsenal match doesn't get "sadly" over excited with United???
Tell me, because every game with Arsenal and United - it gets hot tempered and over excited. But Anderson does one thing, every United fan and football fan is raging with him. Look at all the other incidents caused by Arsenal previously, not half a much controversy!!!! Give him a break he is young, he will learn, lay off him for once. Ever since he turned up at United, few have backed him, endless critics including pundits......give em a chance and a break.....for once!

There aren't many football fans raging with him...Believe me.. No one in my country has even mentioned it ! No one.. And I'm sure some German, Spain or Belgium fans didn't even notice it... It was nothing ( waving thing ).. It is a gesture that says - This deserves a card, just like everyone else does it ... Especially Rooney with his language mate..
I have a feeling that everyone here feels soooo embarassed with this stupidity while seeing Rooney clapping to the ref or insulting him , you take it for granted, and just get over it like nothing happened. Should we open a thread about how embaressed we feel every time Rooney opens his mouth ? Coz this stupidity doesn't deserve a thread ! Let me tell you something - I feel much more embarassed seeing Rooney saying the f word that any other play acting or waving to the ref... An insult on a personal level is the most disgusting thing in football that should be cut off ...
I don't know mate... I think y'all got too sensitive after "ronaldo-rooney incident"... Maybe I'm wrong... Would it have made any difference if he'd said - **** you ref, that deserves the card , without hand getsure ? I want honest answer, and what I'm affarid , what is absolutelly shocking, is that you ( not you in person, but most of you ) probably think it would have been more acceptable ...

[rydersonthestorm]

Perhaps being don't like it but don't feel the need to harp on about it, i wouldn't have posted anout any of the stuff had you not shown such double standards to what you find acceptable. I have said i don't find any of it right and you are happy for people to dive about and card wave.

[CROoney]

Perhaps being don't like it but don't feel the need to harp on about it, i wouldn't have posted anout any of the stuff had you not shown such double standards to what you find acceptable. I have said i don't find any of it right and you are happy for people to dive about and card wave.
no, no---i wasn't talking about the "dive",I was talking about waving incident on his own... if there was a dive, it should be punished... I dont know if he dived, I thought it was a foul... he did over react though. but if people are complaining ONLY for the waving that it is a nonsence

[Keano's fan]

on and off the pitch ;)
LOL legends stuff

[Anderson's God]

I can't believe you actually said that... Why is that ? Do tell me please mate ! So, you're basicaly telling me that communication with the ref can be accaptable only with no gestures... That's bull man... A **** on the plot is a **** on the plot, no matter how right it looks...If what Anderson did was wrong ( in terms of waving ), then every surrounding of the ref is wrong . No matter if the incident that has accured before is a nasty tackle from behind or a little less nasty. As I remember it , it was a tckle from behind, thus a yellow card is appropriate ( maybe I'm wrong ). Anderson was persuading the ref to punish Cesc, Giggs and Scholes did that too at Chelsea match... Where's the difference.. Only in type of communaction... C'mon , if you look at it closely, you'll see that I'm right.. Just consider it , will ya
And foul language is AS bad if not the WORST type of communication...Would you rather see someone insulting your dead parents or you or someone implying that you should card a player... I would chose a second... Besides play acting , Anderson did nothing wrong... I can't believe it is being disccussed only at English forums... I haven't found a single article in the medias about it... At least foreign,,,
Cheers



There aren't many football fans raging with him...Believe me.. No one in my country has even mentioned it ! No one.. And I'm sure some German, Spain or Belgium fans didn't even notice it... It was nothing ( waving thing ).. It is a gesture that says - This deserves a card, just like everyone else does it ... Especially Rooney with his language mate..
I have a feeling that everyone here feels soooo embarassed with this stupidity while seeing Rooney clapping to the ref or insulting him , you take it for granted, and just get over it like nothing happened. Should we open a thread about how embaressed we feel every time Rooney opens his mouth ? Coz this stupidity doesn't deserve a thread ! Let me tell you something - I feel much more embarassed seeing Rooney saying the f word that any other play acting or waving to the ref... An insult on a personal level is the most disgusting thing in football that should be cut off ...
I don't know mate... I think y'all got too sensitive after "ronaldo-rooney incident"... Maybe I'm wrong... Would it have made any difference if he'd said - **** you ref, that deserves the card , without hand getsure ? I want honest answer, and what I'm affarid , what is absolutelly shocking, is that you ( not you in person, but most of you ) probably think it would have been more acceptable ...


TBH with you, I don't agree with the bad language, I think that is very wrong and should be stamped out. Refs should do something about that. The "hand card" might have been because Anderson cannot speak english - if that is regarded as bad, then Gerrard convincing refs to make sending off is twice as bad! I don't feel their was a whole lot wrong with the card gesture!

[CROoney]

TBH with you, I don't agree with the bad language, I think that is very wrong and should be stamped out. Refs should do something about that. The "hand card" might have been because Anderson cannot speak english - if that is regarded as bad, then Gerrard convincing refs to make sending off is twice as bad! I don't feel their was a whole lot wrong with the card gesture!
spot on mate... I was hoping for that responce

[rydersonthestorm]

It's funny how you both are from abroad and defend card waving etc, none of it is fine.

[CROoney]

It's funny how you both are from abroad and defend card waving etc, none of it is fine.
why is wrong ? is saying "That wasn't a ****ing foul, no ****ing way... Or " that deserves a ****ing card ref... " Is that wrong ? Just answer me please mate

[rydersonthestorm]

Perhaps being don't like it but don't feel the need to harp on about it, i wouldn't have posted anout any of the stuff had you not shown such double standards to what you find acceptable. I have said i don't find any of it right and you are happy for people to dive about and card wave.
This answer your question m8

[CROoney]

Why ? Do you find right then saying - Hey ref, that was a card... without the f word
Sorry for being boring but just trying to figure out something

[rydersonthestorm]

You shouldn't speak to the ref at all, you shouldn't dive ,swear,card wave or anything else it is all poor sportsmanship and should be got rid of from football. You ever watch a game of rugby where only the captain can have a small but respectful talk with the ref, that how it should be.

[CROoney]

You shouldn't speak to the ref at all, you shouldn't dive ,swear,card wave or anything else it is all poor sportsmanship and should be got rid of from football. You ever watch a game of rugby where only the captain can have a small but respectful talk with the ref, that how it should be.
fair enough, tha it what i was hoping for

[Anderson's God]

It's funny how you both are from abroad and defend card waving etc, none of it is fine.


I hope you are not implying what I think you are implying !!:mad: ..... further more you English are in no position to talk. Take a good, hard long look at Gerrard .................!!

[rydersonthestorm]

You must struggle in reading what i have written, i don't think any of this is acceptable. Also it seems to be you two guys that are defending card waving where as the british guys that are defending the other things so yes it must be a cultural difference.

[Anderson's God]

You must struggle in reading what i have written, i don't think any of this is acceptable. Also it seems to be you two guys that are defending card waving where as the british guys that are defending the other things so yes it must be a cultural difference.


Can see why you don't support Arsenal, plain as day!

[rydersonthestorm]

Can see why you don't support Arsenal, plain as day!
Perhaps becuase i'm from manchester ??

[Ajant]

How can one excuse a player from their behaviour by saying 'they are young' that has nothing to do with it...it's their background if anything, or their will to cheat.

On the language matter, yes you can speak to the referee I wouldn't want to stop speaking to him, but I do think Football can learn alot from Rugby, in this aspect.

[CROoney]

you can't speak to a basketball ref, nor handball ref, nor waterpolo ref... why it should be allowed to speak with the football ref ? it's not like he will change his decision anyway

[Ajant]

I'm just saying you should be allowed to speak to the referee. For instance I ask the referee how long is left in the match...

[andycole9]

you can't speak to a basketball ref, nor handball ref, nor waterpolo ref... why it should be allowed to speak with the football ref ? it's not like he will change his decision anyway
rugby basketball and all the other sports are completly different from football and should never be compared

[CROoney]

I'm just saying you should be allowed to speak to the referee. For instance I ask the referee how long is left in the match...
you have it on the "big screen" ... lo, but i see your point

rugby basketball and all the other sports are completly different from football and should never be compared
why mate... they are all sports with balls and ref's...

[Anderson's God]

you have it on the "big screen" ... lo, but i see your point


why mate... they are all sports with balls and ref's...


Some you need more "balls" then others :D