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ARBUCKS
07-11-2007, 12:33 PM
SIR Alex Ferguson, celebrating his 21st anniversary at the club, has challenged his Manchester United players to avoid becoming the Reds' nearly men.

On the eve of his side's Champions League encounter with Dynamo Kiev, Ferguson refused to rule out extending his stay to an incredible 25 years.

No matter how long the fiercely-competitive Scot remains, he wants his final seasons at United to be winning ones.

And, in accepting the Red Devils' Champions League record should be far better than it is, Ferguson has laid down the gauntlet to his young team to bring a third European Cup back to Old Trafford.

"If you are one of the best you naturally look to spell it out with cups and medals, otherwise you are in danger of ending your career as a nearly man - and I don't think a single Manchester United player wants that," said Ferguson, who won the Champions League in 1999.

"Talk comes cheap but I think we have built a platform that, with just a little bit of luck, will launch us on our way to capture this most elusive of trophies.

"We have had our disappointments on the Champions League trail but, while you can never take anything for granted at this level because the competition is needle sharp, I really believe we are capable of going all the way."

Ferguson is responsible for 50% of United's European triumphs but despite that never-to-be-forgotten night in Barcelona, an unhappy succession of quarter-final and semi-final defeats - culminating in last season's loss to AC Milan in the last four - have undermined his monumental achievements on the domestic front.

Still, with nine Premier League titles, five FA Cups, two League Cups and a Cup-Winners' Cup triumph on his United CV, Ferguson knows he could stand down immediately and still be hailed as one of the finest managers of all time.

Magical

Such a move is not on the 65-year-old's agenda though. And, with bookmakers now offering odds on him reaching a magical 25 years at the helm, the gambler in Ferguson does not dismiss the wisdom of having a punt.

"I am proud to have been at the right club," he said.

"I thought 20 years was the landmark last year and now there is an extra year to add to that. It does mean something to me and now I see that are taking odds on me getting to 25 years. It will be interesting to see if I last that long."

Although he is anxious to stress he is not in competition with illustrious predecessor Sir Matt Busby, whose first stint as manager lasted 24 years, Ferguson does believe his fellow Scot left a European legacy he must live up to.

Not only was Busby responsible for their first European trophy in 1968, he also defied the English football authorities 12 years earlier in entering United into the new competition, a season after Chelsea had declined the opportunity.

"I don't think of Sir Matt in terms of him lasting so long but there was an impact from his reign, which leaves us with a big incentive," said Ferguson.

"I think back to what he started after the war, when he had the vision to take Manchester United into Europe in 1956. That was before his time and beyond everyone's thinking.

"Chelsea won the league the previous year but didn't fancy Europe. The FA didn't fancy it and the Football League didn't fancy it either.

"But Sir Matt Busby did. That is the real link I have got with Sir Matt. The years I have spent here have been about achieving and entertaining and about meeting the demands of the modern game."

Barring a mathematical improbability, victory for United tomorrow would sweep them into the knock-out phase with two matches to spare.

Having dismantled Kiev in the Ukraine a fortnight ago, there is no reason to believe Ferguson's side will struggle at Old Trafford, especially given United now have an almost fully-fit squad available.

"At this moment in time I am very positive about meeting the demands of this competition this season," said Ferguson.

"This team can go far. Certain things have to fall into place, namely to have a good, strong squad by the time you get to March.

"I can't dictate that. It is something you have to accept. You either have injuries and important times or you don't."

Keano4taoiseach
07-11-2007, 12:38 PM
He will not leave until he wins another CL......this could be our year.......there dosen't look to be any team out there that we should be even slightly afraid of...
A.C Milan are probably the most dangerous but with Saha, Hargo and Nani and Anderson we should be able to match them.......

I would love to meat them in the final.........

ARBUCKS
07-11-2007, 12:46 PM
I think that the biggest threats are going to be Barcelona and Real Madrid

Keano4taoiseach
07-11-2007, 12:52 PM
I agree aswell, but I feel when it gets to the latter stages it will be United and AC who are sure to be there, Real have not been impressive in the last few years in the CL....

I do have 20 vcash on them winning the cup though....lol....(real that is)

ARBUCKS
07-11-2007, 02:28 PM
With Madrid not being impressive in the last few seasoni think that they will be alot stronger this year and i expect to see them in the 1/4 finals at least this year.

They have added alot of good players into the squad most of them have bags of C.L experience so expect to see them in the competition come May.

Barcelona is the only team i think that could stop from winning our 3rd CL

NateR
07-11-2007, 05:26 PM
Madrid are very dodgy in defense at times. Not really any team we should fear. We have an excellent defense, Midfield and attacking line-up. This'll be our year, i know it.

Jazz 16
07-11-2007, 06:23 PM
I think that the biggest threats are going to be Barcelona and Real Madrid

I agree but I would add Chelsea and Arsenal to that list also.

mulletsneverdie
07-11-2007, 06:35 PM
whats the odds on us winnin it 5 yrs runnin, would that make us all time most european cups won

Jazz 16
07-11-2007, 06:38 PM
whats the odds on us winnin it 5 yrs runnin, would that make us all time most european cups won

No not even. Madrid have 9 I think. Milan have 7? and then Luckypool on 5

Keano4taoiseach
07-11-2007, 06:46 PM
Madrid are very dodgy in defense at times. Not really any team we should fear. We have an excellent defense, Midfield and attacking line-up. This'll be our year, i know it.



They did win their domestic league last season and have got RVN and Robinho and Raul....

There defense is their only weakness...having said that...I think this will be their best CL campaign in a while...

andycole9
08-11-2007, 02:56 AM
I think that the biggest threats are going to be Barcelona and Real Madrid
i agree,

barca you have to put them as one of the favs with the squad they have but i think they are like arsenal in the way that they only know how to play one way they are also very weak at the back

real madrid can never be written off in the champions league there record speaks for it's self and although they can leak goals for fun they should not be under estimated after all they are the reigning la liga champions they have RVN and raul the 2 most deadliest strikers in the champions league of all time, and already this year they have put 5 past valencia at the mestella and 5 past villareal at the el madrigal. who both sit in the top of la liga

i also think chelsea should never be written of in this campaign. there style of play suits the champions league down to a T. they are masters of keeping clean sheets and nicking a goal

reddwarf
08-11-2007, 12:11 PM
No not even. Madrid have 9 I think. Milan have 7? and then Luckypool on 5

Spot on. Winning it 5 yrs in a row would tie us for 2nd with AC Milan.