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SALFORD RED
11-11-2007, 05:14 PM
Italian police kill football fan
The victim was shot near a motorway restaurant in Tuscany
A football fan has been shot dead by police during a fight between rival supporters in Italy, officials say.
Local authorities said there had been a "tragic error" when police intervened to quell violence between fans of Roman team Lazio and Turin-based Juventus.
The victim, a Lazio fan, was shot during the clash at a motorway rest stop near the Tuscan city of Arezzo.
The Lazio fans were travelling to a match against Inter Milan, which has been suspended following the death.
Other games were starting 10 minutes late with players and officials wearing black armbands.
The Juventus fans were reportedly on their way from Naples to an away match against Parma.
"It was a tragic error," said Arezzo police chief Vincenzo Giacobbe.
"Our agent had intervened to prevent the brawl between these two groups, who had not been identified as fans," Mr Giacobbe said, according to the Italian news agency Ansa.
The victim was identified as Gabriele Sandri, a 26-year-old disc jockey from Rome.
He was apparently shot while in a car outside the motorway restaurant.
Earlier reports said the fan had been killed during the brawl. An investigation is under way.
News of the violence sparked clashes between fans and police in Bergamo, where Atalanta were playing AC Milan.
That match was abandoned 10 minutes after kick-off, when fans tried to smash down a barrier and force their way onto the pitch.
In April the Italian government introduced a law aimed at stamping out football hooliganism.
It was enacted after a policeman was killed in rioting at a match in Sicily in February.
SolskjaertheLegend
11-11-2007, 05:16 PM
yeah i heard this, trust it to happen in Italy
Jazz 16
11-11-2007, 05:17 PM
Tragic that this still goes on. Seems to be happening quite frequently....
The_Red_Prince
11-11-2007, 06:16 PM
They are always at the center of the crime scene.Hope they stop soon though,or they will get accused every time there is violence in Italy
carlyluvsunited
11-11-2007, 06:34 PM
Italian police are no good....
Look how they treat United boys last year huh......
I am confused though - the dead guy was sat in a car......
No where near the rioting.....
And he got shot by mistake !!!
Quite a big mistake I think :eek:
Keano4taoiseach
11-11-2007, 07:31 PM
Italian police are always on a killing frenzy.......fans are a joke tbh.....
Wazza1989
11-11-2007, 08:19 PM
i hate Italy...:(
Keano4taoiseach
11-11-2007, 08:24 PM
i hate Italy...:(
Rome is pretty awesome in fairness mate....and the northern lakes....e.g garda are nice also.....
It's just the arrogance of a lot of italian people, whether intentional or not, and the happy frenzy police force.....
Red Devil
11-11-2007, 10:44 PM
Bloody italians, again!
Keano4taoiseach
11-11-2007, 10:58 PM
Bloody italians, again!
no pun intended....:D
SALFORD RED
12-11-2007, 01:18 AM
Lastest update. BBC News 24. 11.47pm. 11.11.2007
Italy fans rampage after killing
Rioters set vehicles alight near Rome's Stadio Olimpico
Italian football fans have reacted violently inside and outside stadiums following the police shooting of a Lazio supporter.
Gabriele Sandri, 26, was shot in what police called a "tragic error" as they tried to stop violence between rival fans at a motorway stop in Tuscany.
A match between Atalanta and AC Milan was stopped as fans and police clashed. There was violence at other games.
Later hundreds of fans rampaged in Rome and there were more protests in Milan.
Bus torched
The worst violence was in the capital, where hundreds of armed fans attacked a police barracks and the Italian Olympic Committee headquarters.
Sunday's late match between AS Roma and Cagliari had been postponed as a precaution but fans wielding rocks and clubs turned up outside the Stadio Olimpico.
Security guards in the Olympic headquarters barricaded themselves in as fans outside smashed windows and burned vehicles as they clashed with police.
The mob blocked off one end of a bridge over the Tiber and ordered motorists to leave the area.
A bus was torched and scores of police were injured.
Fans and police also clashed in central Milan near the offices of the broadcaster RAI.
Gabriele Sandri worked as a disc jockey in the Italian capital
In Bergamo, where Atalanta were playing AC Milan, police and fans clashed ahead of the match.
The game was abandoned 10 minutes after kick-off, when fans tried to smash down a barrier and force their way onto the pitch.
In Siena, supporters shouted "murderers" at police.
There was also violence at lower league games in southern Italy.
Seven of the top league games started 10 minutes late with players wearing black armbands although atmospheres remained tense.
Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi called for a full investigation into the shooting and said the violence was "very worrying".
'Tragic error'
Mr Sandri, a 26-year-old disc jockey from Rome, was a Lazio fan on his way to a match with Inter Milan.
The victim was shot near a motorway restaurant in Tuscany
Lazio fans and supporters of Juventus on their way to a match at Parma reportedly clashed at the service station near Arezzo.
Mr Sandri was apparently shot while in a car outside the motorway restaurant.
Police suggested he may have been killed by a warning shot.
The exact details of the shooting are unclear and an investigation is under way.
"It was a tragic error," said Arezzo police chief Vincenzo Giacobbe.
"Our agent had intervened to prevent the brawl between these two groups, who had not been identified as fans," Mr Giacobbe said, according to the Italian news agency Ansa.
The Inter-Lazio game was postponed.
Grif SA
12-11-2007, 06:02 AM
And they honestly wonder why they didn't get Euro 2012... This has to stop. Yes, they are passionate, as are we all. But you don't see English supporters doing this kind of stuff, nor in Germany, France, or Spain. They can't use 'passionate' as an excuse.
carlyluvsunited
12-11-2007, 12:00 PM
Riot after cop kills Lazio fan
Furious football fans attacked a police barracks in Italy last night after an officer
shot dead a supporter.
Lazio fan Gabriele Sandri, 26, was hit in the neck as police tried to break up a
clash between rival fans at motorway services in Arezzo, Tuscany.
The incident triggered angry protests across the country and a masked mob
flooded into the barracks near Lazio's Stadio Olimpico in Rome.
Windows were smashed and cars parked outside torched. Passengers were
forced off a bus, which was set alight. A number of officers were injuries and
arrests were made.
Police chief Vincenzo Giacobbe said Gabriele's death was "a tragic error" but the
victim's brother, Cristino, was seen on TV screaming: "They killed my brother" as
the family's lawyer branded it "first degree murder".
Sports Minister Giovanna Melandri said: "The death is an immense tragedy."
reddwarf
12-11-2007, 01:04 PM
Lazio fans have a very bad reputation but for a guy to be shot when he's just sat in his car is terrible. The Italian police are their own worst enemies at times.
I just can't believe that rival fans started fighting when they weren't even playing each other!!!
Justice
12-11-2007, 01:24 PM
Stop having a go at Italian police! This was totally innocent! They shot a bullet, but only up into the air to get everyones attention, unfortunately what goes up must come down, and did so into that guy. This happened to about 10 people in Iraq after they won the Asian Cup thing but no one seems to care?
reddwarf
12-11-2007, 01:30 PM
Stop having a go at Italian police! This was totally innocent! They shot a bullet, but only up into the air to get everyones attention, unfortunately what goes up must come down, and did so into that guy. This happened to about 10 people in Iraq after they won the Asian Cup thing but no one seems to care?
Fair enough, but if it's a warning shot then why not fire a rubber bullet?
Using live ammo, no matter which direction it's being shot in, can cause this to happen.
SALFORD RED
12-11-2007, 04:35 PM
Stop having a go at Italian police! This was totally innocent! They shot a bullet, but only up into the air to get everyones attention, unfortunately what goes up must come down, and did so into that guy. This happened to about 10 people in Iraq after they won the Asian Cup thing but no one seems to care?
Nice theory but wrong...
Officer 'rues' killing Lazio fan
Football violence spread to cities throughout Italy after the shooting
The Italian policeman who fired the shot that killed a football fan on Sunday has said his gun went off as he ran to stop rival supporters fighting.
The unnamed policeman, who has been in the force for 12 years, told the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera that he had not aimed at anyone.
Sunday's violence erupted after the shooting of Gabriele Sandri, 26, at a motorway service station.
The Lazio fan, from Rome, was hit by a bullet in the neck as he sat in a car while police tried to stop fighting between followers of his team and Juventus supporters.
Floral tributes and football scarves were laid outside the shop owned by the family of the dead disc jockey in the Italian capital on Monday.
A note posted on the window of the premises read: "Yesterday a disgusting b*****d killed my son. May you be cursed forever."
But the policeman who fired the shot told Corriere della Sera it was a tragic mistake.
The officer said he fired his pistol more than 200m (660ft) away from Mr Sandri, who was sitting in a car on his way to see Lazio play Inter Milan.
"I was not aiming anywhere, I was not pointing at anyone," the policeman was quoted by the newspaper as saying.
"The first shot I fired in the air and the second went off as I was running. What a fool. Now I know what happened, I am devastated.
"Now I have destroyed two families, that of this boy and mine," he added.
Gabriele Sandri earned his living as a disc jockey
An autopsy was being carried out on Mr Sandri's body on Monday.
Italian PM Romano Prodi has called for a full investigation into the shooting, and described the resulting disorder as "very worrying".
The president of the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) said he was preparing to announce major changes.
"It is a day in which there will be major institutional steps taken," Giancarlo Abete told RAI radio on Monday.
Across Italy seven of the Serie A games started 10 minutes late. Players wore black armbands but atmospheres remained tense.
In other developments:
Fans in Milan hurled rocks at a police station and beat up two journalists
In Bergamo, a match between Atalanta and AC Milan was abandoned 10 minutes after kick-off during an attempted pitch invasion
Supporters in Siena shouted "murderers" at police
There was also violence at lower league games in southern Italy.
Italy's league programme was suspended, and some matches were then played behind closed doors.
Red Devil
12-11-2007, 08:16 PM
The italian fan is an animal; cannot be trained. The incident was no excuse to riot but the italian fan seems to be able to do it any time they feel like it. And its nothing new.
Denis Law in his book talks about the italian hooliganism back in the early 60s. It was labeled the "english disease" in the 70s but its always been the "italian disease".
Keano4taoiseach
12-11-2007, 11:57 PM
Trigger happy...the lot of them imho...
SALFORD RED
13-11-2007, 12:30 AM
ROME (AFP) -
Italian prosecutors opened a manslaughter inquiry Monday after a football fan was shot dead by a policeman, sparking nationwide riots, as the government urged football officials to consider suspending the championship.
At least 40 police required hospital treatment after the running battles in several cities which newspapers dubbed the return of the "nightmare" of football-related violence.
Vincenzo Giacobbe, police chief of Arezzo near where Lazio football fan Gabriele Sandri was killed, said the current theory was that he had been a victim of manslaughter but that tougher charges could be laid.
"There's a possibility that the categorisation of the crime ... could change for the worse," Giacobbe told a news conference.
Sandri, a Rome disc jockey, was shot in the neck while sitting in a car at a motorway rest area where there had been fighting between Lazio and Juventus supporters, according to police.
Giacobbe said numerous witnesses had told how the policeman aimed at the tyres of the car in which Sandri was sitting.
Sandri's family has called the killing murder.
The policeman, who has not been identified, said in an interview with the Corriere della Sera daily that it was an accident.
The 31-year-old officer said he accidentally fired the fatal shot as he was running, just seconds after firing a warning round in the air.
"I was not aiming anywhere, I was not pointing at anyone," the officer said.
"The first shot I fired in the air and the second went off as I was running. What a fool. Now I know what happened, I am devastated. Now I have destroyed two families, that of this boy and mine," he added.
Interior Minister Giuliano Amato called the incident a "tragic error" and said the "exact dynamic of the facts" was still under investigation.
Sports Minister Giovanna Melandri urged football authorities meeting later Monday to take tough action, "even possibly suspending the championship over the next few weeks."
Speaking after an emergency meeting of government officials and football authorities, Melandri said: "Everyone feels the need for strong and meaningful decisions from the world of football."
The meeting at the interior ministry was attended by the heads of the Italian Football Federation, the League of Professional Clubs and the National Olympic Committee.
"Football values were doubly flouted, because a young fan is dead and because violence broke out," Melandri told reporters.
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Keano4taoiseach
13-11-2007, 12:33 AM
On the other hand..if it was a genuine mistake...by a man doing his job...you can't help but feel sorry for him...
Keano4taoiseach
13-11-2007, 01:29 AM
Italian football to be suspended
Minister Melandri has called for tough action to be taken
The Italian Football Federation (FIGC) has suspended next week's Serie B and C matches after the latest fan violence.
On Sunday, games were halted across the country and police attacked after a Lazio fan was shot by a policeman.
Italy's Euro 2008 qualifier away to Scotland on Saturday means there are no top-flight Serie A games next weekend.
But FIGC president Giancarlo Abete has not ruled out the possibility of the postponements continuing after the international break.
Interview: Uefa spokesman William Gaillard
"We don't intend to restart all tournaments from Sunday 25," he said.
"We will have to study, with the Serie A clubs, certain initiatives to be put in place by the 25th - a reflection of the values of football, like a categorical no to any form of violence."
606: DEBATE
Your views on the weekend's events in Italy
Sports minister Giovanna Melandri had earlier asked for "a strong gesture, in particular suspending the championships for a few weeks".
She added: "Today I think a significant gesture needs to be made to express the condolences from the sporting world and the football world and the shared mourning and at the same time a condemnation without hesitation of violence."
Sunday's incident occurred when Lazio fans travelling to see their team play at Inter Milan encountered Juventus fans at a motorway service station in Tuscany.
Football has a central place in the life of Italy, so whatever problems exist at a social level find their way to the stadium
Uefa spokesman William Gaillard
Lazio's game with Inter and Roma's match with Cagliari were both postponed in the aftermath of the fatal shooting, and Atalanta's game with Milan was abandoned after just seven minutes.
Italy's anti-hooligan body has proposed the banning of large groups of potentially violent away supporters from all grounds.
It has also suggested that away fan attendance should be decided on a game-by-game basis, and wants 'supporter passports' introduced as soon as possible.
Uefa spokesman William Gaillard told BBC Sport that although there was clearly a serious problem, it was unfair to lay the blame entirely at the door of football.
"It reflects social difficulties in Italian cities which have little to do with football, and also the presence of extremists and organised groups do not reflect what the average fan feels about football," he said.
"That bullet could have hit anyone in the parking lot, so it's tragic. Football has a central place in the life of Italy, so whatever problems exist at a social level find their way to the stadium."
carlyluvsunited
13-11-2007, 06:34 AM
Stop having a go at Italian police! This was totally innocent! They shot a bullet, but only up into the air to get everyones attention, unfortunately what goes up must come down, and did so into that guy. This happened to about 10 people in Iraq after they won the Asian Cup thing but no one seems to care?
WTF :eek:
Shoot a bullet in the air it will go up......
.......and up and up.........
Then it will stop.......
And begin its descent.........
Reaching a terminal velocity of 120mph IF it has time to !!!
This wont kill the guy !!!
He was sat inside a car !!!
CROoney
13-11-2007, 08:58 AM
carly...that was an accident... he shot a bullet in the air, and it killed him...feel terribly sorry for the guy, but that was an accident... in fact, one of my neighbours got killed that way
Italian police are no good....
Look how they treat United boys last year huh......
I am confused though - the dead guy was sat in a car......
No where near the rioting.....
And he got shot by mistake !!!
Quite a big mistake I think :eek:
i don't want to get into argue with some of you here, but let me point on some facts... Last year our fans had trouble in France during Lille match, everyone here was pointing on them... their police, staff etc... At Rome,our fans got into trouble everyone was pointing at them ... their police, staff etc... Then, the Spurs fans, I think, were also attacked by police in Spain and everyone was pointing at Spain police's fault... It can't be everyone else.. Now, I'm not justifying others , but for riots, 2 sides must be involved and I somehow doubt that Spain, French and Italian police started hitting with no reason....
No offence to anyone, but do you see what I mean
SALFORD RED
13-11-2007, 03:49 PM
carly...that was an accident... he shot a bullet in the air, and it killed him...feel terribly sorry for the guy, but that was an accident... in fact, one of my neighbours got killed that way
Did you even read the thread ? If so you might have missed a couple of things.
Italian prosecutors opened a manslaughter inquiry Monday after a football fan was shot dead by a policeman, sparking nationwide riots, as the government urged football officials to consider suspending the championship.
Vincenzo Giacobbe, police chief of Arezzo near where Lazio football fan Gabriele Sandri was killed, said the current theory was that he had been a victim of manslaughter but that tougher charges could be laid.
"There's a possibility that the categorisation of the crime ... could change for the worse," Giacobbe told a news conference.
Sandri, a Rome disc jockey, was shot in the neck while sitting in a car at a motorway rest area where there had been fighting between Lazio and Juventus supporters, according to police.
Giacobbe said numerous witnesses had told how the policeman aimed at the tyres of the car in which Sandri was sitting.
Sandri's family has called the killing murder.
The policeman, who has not been identified, said in an interview with the Corriere della Sera daily that it was an accident.
The 31-year-old officer said he accidentally fired the fatal shot as he was running, just seconds after firing a warning round in the air.
And if you watch the news you will see that he was shot through the window of his car.
Hope that helps you a bit.
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carlyluvsunited
13-11-2007, 03:56 PM
Thanks Sal :)
Fired a bullet in the air and it went up and down and killed him, lmao....
I don't think so !! I was having hard time to believe that !!
carly...that was an accident... he shot a bullet in the air, and it killed him...feel terribly sorry for the guy, but that was an accident... in fact, one of my neighbours got killed that way
i don't want to get into argue with some of you here, but let me point on some facts... Last year our fans had trouble in France during Lille match, everyone here was pointing on them... their police, staff etc... At Rome,our fans got into trouble everyone was pointing at them ... their police, staff etc... Then, the Spurs fans, I think, were also attacked by police in Spain and everyone was pointing at Spain police's fault... It can't be everyone else.. Now, I'm not justifying others , but for riots, 2 sides must be involved and I somehow doubt that Spain, French and Italian police started hitting with no reason....
No offence to anyone, but do you see what I meanNever ANY crowd problems in UK - plenty in Spain and Italy though !!
This is not hard to work out
CROoney
14-11-2007, 01:10 PM
Thanks Sal :)
Fired a bullet in the air and it went up and down and killed him, lmao....
I don't think so !! I was having hard time to believe that !!
Never ANY crowd problems in UK - plenty in Spain and Italy though !!
This is not hard to work out
yes, but that's because England have great laws which stops hooligansim, but when their supporters leave the country on the other hand.... that's a completely different story... we both know that... how come Scottish fans have never had similar trouble ?
And, for the bullet part - I apologise, I didn't read the thread, I only said what I saw in the news... Sorry once again... Hope anyone won't get offended with this post too... I was only trying to look at things from a different point of view
carlyluvsunited
14-11-2007, 03:19 PM
yes, but that's because England have great laws which stops hooligansim, but when their supporters leave the country on the other hand.... that's a completely different story... we both know that... how come Scottish fans have never had similar trouble ?
And, for the bullet part - I apologise, I didn't read the thread, I only said what I saw in the news... Sorry once again... Hope anyone won't get offended with this post too... I was only trying to look at things from a different point of viewOh yes - we see England fans sometimes go a bit crazy - Liverpool too and United have been known to do it too.....so yes ok fa enough :)
SALFORD RED
14-11-2007, 07:39 PM
yes, but that's because England have great laws which stops hooligansim, but when their supporters leave the country on the other hand.... that's a completely different story... we both know that... how come Scottish fans have never had similar trouble ?
And, for the bullet part - I apologise, I didn't read the thread, I only said what I saw in the news... Sorry once again... Hope anyone won't get offended with this post too... I was only trying to look at things from a different point of view
No need to apologise for anything, you made your post on the information you had at that time. Which is why i pointed a couple of things out to you, in case you had not seen those points.
It's good that people look at things from different points of view. Everyone has different opinions on just about everything.
And i think i can honestly say theres no chance that you have offended anyone in anyway. :)
CROoney
14-11-2007, 09:00 PM
No need to apologise for anything, you made your post on the information you had at that time. Which is why i pointed a couple of things out to you, in case you had not seen those points.
It's good that people look at things from different points of view. Everyone has different opinions on just about everything.
And i think i can honestly say theres no chance that you have offended anyone in anyway. :)
on some other forums ( aka offocial united forum ) i would have been called an england hater, and would have been attacked untill i get suspended... that's why i'm apologising...been there, done that
Wazza1989
14-11-2007, 09:38 PM
things like this shouldn't happen in sport...no matter what sport:(
SALFORD RED
14-11-2007, 09:40 PM
on some other forums ( aka offocial united forum ) i would have been called an england hater, and would have been attacked untill i get suspended... that's why i'm apologising...been there, done that
Been there, done that and worn the tshirt. :D
Theres some idiots on some forums but i've not met one bad one on here yet.
Think most people are pretty clued up and know whats what. ;)
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SALFORD RED
15-11-2007, 09:34 PM
'Murder charge' over fan's death
Gabriele Sandri's death has angered many in Italy
An Italian policeman who shot dead a Lazio fan last weekend is set to be charged with murder, his lawyer says.
Police had said Sunday's shooting of Gabriele Sandri, 26, by the officer was a "tragic accident".
There had been expectations he could face a manslaughter case but the policeman's lawyer said on Thursday a murder charge was being prepared.
'Unforgivable act'
The policeman, named in the Italian media as Luigi Spaccarotella, has said his gun went off as he ran to stop a brawl between rival supporters.
He told the newspaper Corriere della Sera earlier this week that he fired his pistol by accident more than 200m (660ft) away from Mr Sandri.
His lawyer Francesco Molino vowed to robustly defend any criminal charges.
But chief prosecutor of the Arezzo jurisdiction Ennio Di Cicco was quoted by La Gazzetta dello Sporto as saying: "This traffic policeman fired the shot at the height of a human being, that is a certified fact.
"We don't know the motives but whatever they are it's an unforgivable act."
The latest development came a day after hundreds of people, including rival fans, attended the funeral of Mr Sandri in Rome.
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andycole9
16-11-2007, 03:28 AM
And they honestly wonder why they didn't get Euro 2012... This has to stop. Yes, they are passionate, as are we all. But you don't see English supporters doing this kind of stuff, nor in Germany, France, or Spain. They can't use 'passionate' as an excuse.
NO THEY JUST GIVE IT THE POLES INSTEAD :eek: WHO HAVE A SERIOUS HOOLIGAN PROBLEM ATM, it's like the uk from the 70s over there
carlyluvsunited
16-11-2007, 03:51 AM
I wouldn't like to see this policeman used as an escape route by the authorities
to make a better situation - that would be so wrong !!
Maybe it was an accident - imagine being surrounded by a huge bunch of guys
fighting - it would terrify me - and I would have my gun ready for sure - and if he
got scared and was running to safety MAYBE the gun did shoot by accident !!!
Yes poor man - maybe he is suffering too now because he killed that boy - but
this side of the story wont sell many newspapers will it ?
SALFORD RED
16-11-2007, 05:17 AM
I wouldn't like to see this policeman used as an escape route by the authorities
to make a better situation - that would be so wrong !!
Maybe it was an accident - imagine being surrounded by a huge bunch of guys
fighting - it would terrify me - and I would have my gun ready for sure - and if he
got scared and was running to safety MAYBE the gun did shoot by accident !!!
Yes poor man - maybe he is suffering too now because he killed that boy - but
this side of the story wont sell many newspapers will it ?
I'll try to answer some of these points but will ignore the first part because it is getting to be the norm in todays society to use the blame culture, it's never the persons fault but someone elses.
Now to the incident, if people have watched the news they would have seen that he was not surrounded by a huge bunch of guys fighting, nor was he running for safety.
The disturbance was between a car full of Juventus supporters and a car full of Lazio supporters, so no huge bunch and no full scale riot.
There were 7 police officers already on scene trying to prevent further escalation of violence.
Another police car arrived with two officers inside who got out 300 meters away and started running towards ( TOWARDS ) the incident, one officer fired his gun , once into the air and then a second shot ( accidental or not is unclear ) at body height to the left of the incident towards a car ( several witnesses say he was aiming at the tyres ), the bullet went through the side window of the car hitting the victim in the neck.
As for the poor policeman suffering, tell that to the person who is dead, his family and friends, THAT is suffering...
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rydersonthestorm
16-11-2007, 05:21 AM
I'll try to answer some of these points but will ignore the first part because it is getting to be the norm in todays society to use the blame culture, it's never the persons fault but someone elses.
Now to the incident, if people have watched the news they would have seen that he was not surrounded by a huge bunch of guys fighting, nor was he running for safety.
The disturbance was between a car full of Juventus supporters and a car full of Lazio supporters, so no huge bunch and no full scale riot.
There were 7 police officers already on scene trying to prevent further escalation of violence.
Another police car arrived with two officers inside who got out 300 meters away and started running towards ( TOWARDS ) the incident, one officer fired his gun , once into the air and then a second shot ( accidental or not is unclear ) at body height to the left of the incident towards a car ( several witnesses say he was aiming at the tyres ), the bullet went through the side window of the car hitting the victim in the neck.
As for the poor policeman suffering, tell that to the person who is dead, his family and friends, THAT is suffering...
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They are in the police and are trained to deal with this kind of thing, as you say it wasn't exactly a large scale riot so why was the police officer firing his gun at all??:confused:
carlyluvsunited
16-11-2007, 05:27 AM
I'll try to answer some of these points but will ignore the first part because it is getting to be the norm in todays society to use the blame culture, it's never the persons fault but someone elses.
Now to the incident, if people have watched the news they would have seen that he was not surrounded by a huge bunch of guys fighting, nor was he running for safety.
The disturbance was between a car full of Juventus supporters and a car full of Lazio supporters, so no huge bunch and no full scale riot.
There were 7 police officers already on scene trying to prevent further escalation of violence.
Another police car arrived with two officers inside who got out 300 meters away and started running towards ( TOWARDS ) the incident, one officer fired his gun , once into the air and then a second shot ( accidental or not is unclear ) at body height to the left of the incident towards a car ( several witnesses say he was aiming at the tyres ), the bullet went through the side window of the car hitting the victim in the neck.
As for the poor policeman suffering, tell that to the person who is dead, his family and friends, THAT is suffering...
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Ahhhhh you see this on the news ?
I have seen nothing so this is my reason for being a bit cautious - thats all....
They made it sound like a big riot in the reports I seen.
As long as the right result comes out then this is good.....
SALFORD RED
16-11-2007, 05:40 AM
Ahhhhh you see this on the news ?
I have seen nothing so this is my reason for being a bit cautious - thats all....
They made it sound like a big riot in the reports I seen.
As long as the right result comes out then this is good.....
Yes on Sky news 24, BBC News 24, World News Today and Italian TV News, it showed you maps/layouts of the service station, where cars were, distances between things and photgraphs of the scene.
Quick news reports always dramatise things to make things look bigger headlines to get more viewers to watch.
Bloody ell, cant you tell night shifts are really boring, :D gives me too much time to watch hours of useless rubbish. :eek:
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