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carlyluvsunited
13-11-2007, 12:36 PM
Below you will find 3 panels telling details of 3
of Fergies best teams he has built.

Then we have a poll added to this thread too.......

I want to know which team YOU think is/was/maybe the best......

Don't be shy - tell us what you think :)




http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k211/small_carly/pastpresent.jpg


http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k211/small_carly/pastpresent1.jpg


http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k211/small_carly/pastpresent2.jpg

I take a gamble here......

I predict this team has the most strength in all postions......

Also......

They have more talent as a whole.......

I also think they could go on to win more than one Champs League too....

So young and so talented !!!

rydersonthestorm
13-11-2007, 12:46 PM
Sorry but until they do that the 98/99 is the best.

ARBUCKS
13-11-2007, 01:02 PM
At the moment it is 98/99 team for what they have achieved!

I think the current team will win everything in the next few seasons but until they do its the 98/99 team at the moment.

In a two years i believe my option will be different!

reddwarf
13-11-2007, 01:20 PM
That's a tough one to call.

If you're talking about best starting XI rather than best squad then it's a different answer in my opinion.

The 98/99 team won the treble because of the squad we had (Sheringham coming off the bench in the FA Cup Final, Keane and Scholes suspended for the Champions League Final and Sheringham and Solskjaer coming off the bench to win it). Although the midfield of Beckham, Keane, Scholes and Giggs was one of the best this club has ever had.

However, the 93/94 double winning side was a fantastic starting XI. It had Cantona! And the Bruce/Pallister pairing, which was fantastic. Hughes is still one of my favourite United players, the battling midfield pairing of Keane and Ince (even if he did turn out to be a traitorous dog by joining Liverpool), the pace and skill of Kanchelskis and Giggs on the wings. What a team!

The current squad still need to prove themselves by winning back to back Prem titles, a double, treble or, dare I say it, quadruple.

SolskjaertheLegend
13-11-2007, 05:19 PM
98/99 team atm but that will probably change in the next few years.

Lawbreaker1944
13-11-2007, 06:00 PM
It's simple: Goalkeeper and defence from 1993/94, Midfield from 1998/99 and Attack from 1993/94. I voted for 1993/94.

Keano's fan
13-11-2007, 06:39 PM
Its very hard to compare. Different eras require different elements in a side. We only used 18 or so player back in the early 90s. So am gonna base this on teams rather than squads.

'94 was a team of men. It was a team of fighters who can also play football. Roy Keane once mentioned something about that era. something along the lines "we used to get out on the pitch. Win the battle first then let our football do that talking". The team was full of characters. And quality. The perfect midfield four. Keane and Ince/Robson and Giggs and Kanchelskis/Sharpe on the wings. with argueby the best Goal keeper in the history of our club. A great defence led by Brucey and my favourite striker partnership of all team. Back to back league titles and an FA cup confirm their status as a great side.

By the time the '99 team was formed, clubs were using a big squad rather than a small pool of players. and our squad was full of quality and options. Big Pete was still there, but the defence lost a bit of its power. Beckahm and Scholes/Butt were/are great great footballers. And the four strikers we've had complimented each other and offered goals. Lots of them. A treble and a couple other league titles confirm that sides greatness.

Now to the current side. BIG squad. A great one. Options all over the place and great football to watch. But until this side wins trophies regulary it cannot be compared to the other two. We can compare them in a few years time maybe, but not now.

My choice would be the '94 team. The played football the way I believe it should be played. A mans game. Grit, hard working, determined AND quality. The combined their fighting spirit with their amazing ability it was just sheer joy to watch.

Jazz 16
13-11-2007, 06:42 PM
That's a tough one to call.

If you're talking about best starting XI rather than best squad then it's a different answer in my opinion.

The 98/99 team won the treble because of the squad we had (Sheringham coming off the bench in the FA Cup Final, Keane and Scholes suspended for the Champions League Final and Sheringham and Solskjaer coming off the bench to win it). Although the midfield of Beckham, Keane, Scholes and Giggs was one of the best this club has ever had.

However, the 93/94 double winning side was a fantastic starting XI. It had Cantona! And the Bruce/Pallister pairing, which was fantastic. Hughes is still one of my favourite United players, the battling midfield pairing of Keane and Ince (even if he did turn out to be a traitorous dog by joining Liverpool), the pace and skill of Kanchelskis and Giggs on the wings. What a team!

The current squad still need to prove themselves by winning back to back Prem titles, a double, treble or, dare I say it, quadruple.

Yes great post to a great thread. Such a tough call this..... Cantona & Hughes up front were the best. Midfield of 98/99 was easily the best midfield and that team got the treble so they WERE great. Though this seasons squad is the strongest squad ever Im not so sure about first 11 compared to the other great teams. They have to win trophys to be considered great. Ive a feeling they will and in turn will be Uniteds greatest ever team but for now its the treble winners.

man.utd.singh
13-11-2007, 06:51 PM
unfair question, we havnt seen teh current team play a whole season yet, give us some time.

red_dec7
13-11-2007, 07:24 PM
98/99 i cant see it changing even if we do it again that was such a fantastic team

RichardsReds
14-11-2007, 12:53 AM
When the current team wins the treble they'll be equally as good.

For now 98/99 team!

andycole9
14-11-2007, 03:08 AM
98/99 for me, how can it not be? the treble will it ever be done again?

also i have a question

where is lee sharpe? from the 93/94 team, some of you might have short memorys are be too young but back in the early nineties lee sharpe was the top dog on the wings

Ajant
14-11-2007, 03:21 AM
..until his way of life ruined him?


This is so hard, for me it's between 93/94 and 98/99, both teams oozing with such class. Hughes, Cantona,Bruce,Pallister,Ince etc and then that awesome midfield and Cole/Yorke.

But I've settled with 98/99. Their achievements just edge it.

EDIT: Why do we have a thread poll close date? That's stupid.

rydersonthestorm
14-11-2007, 03:49 AM
I want to know which seven people voted for a team that has won nothing and just started coming together compared to the team that won the double or the team that won the treble. :confused: :confused: :eek:

andycole9
14-11-2007, 04:17 AM
I want to know which seven people voted for a team that has won nothing and just started coming together compared to the team that won the double or the team that won the treble. :confused: :confused: :eek:
probally coz they have only been supporting utd for 6 months :D

SALFORD RED
14-11-2007, 04:23 AM
I want to know which seven people voted for a team that has won nothing and just started coming together compared to the team that won the double or the team that won the treble. :confused: :confused: :eek:

Now aint that the truth. !!!!!

I was going to ask why the team of 07/08 is even on the list in the first place, having only played a few games and won nothing so far.:confused: ( playing great i'll admit and hopefully the Treble again this season ) but.........
SAF has only had two " best ever teams " so far .....93/94 and 98/99.

I think you'll find that the seven who voted 07/08 are the younger age group, late teens/early 20s, not many were even old enough to support a team in 98/99 and even less going back to 93/94.

Anyway...no contest............98/99 .
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RichardsReds
14-11-2007, 06:04 AM
Now aint that the truth. !!!!!

I was going to ask why the team of 07/08 is even on the list in the first place, having only played a few games and won nothing so far.:confused: ( playing great i'll admit and hopefully the Treble again this season ) but.........
SAF has only had two " best ever teams " so far .....93/94 and 98/99.

I think you'll find that the seven who voted 07/08 are the younger age group, late teens/early 20s, not many were even old enough to support a team in 98/99 and even less going back to 93/94.

Anyway...no contest............98/99 .
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"no contest"

well said!

carlyluvsunited
14-11-2007, 07:33 AM
I want to know which seven people voted for a team
that has won nothing and just started coming together compared to the team
that won the double or the team that won the treble. :confused:

I voted for 2007/08 but seems I am the only one to own up :(

I explain why ok.....

I am young of course only 23 years but this means nothing !

I read many, many books - sometimes 1 book in 1 day - but I read many books
about United.....so I know history of these guys from 1800s up to now.

Someone else say "maybe they are fans for only 6 months"......well at one point
we were all "fans for only 6 months" don't forget.

I follow United since I was 14 years so 9 years.

They were the biggest brand name in Romania - along with Liverpool.........so
sorry yes - I only join in for 1998/99 and you call me glory hunter if you wish I
don't mind.

I have as big knowledge as most United fans.

I choose this 2007/08 team not based on what they win obviously !!

I choose them because in my opinion (and Fergie's too :p ) I think they would
beat 99 team and 94 team, !!

What faults does this team have ?

None......

11 clean sheets from 19 games - brilliant defence.

Midfield is awesome......Nani, Anderson and Carrick sit on the bench from time to
time !!!

These guys make it into any team in the Prem easy - but not United !!

And for strikers........well we scoew goals for fun right now and will do all
year.....more than any other United team have managed !!

.........and VDS in goal too......

So goalkeeper, Defence, Midfield, Attack..........where are the faults ?

This year I am convinced they win the Champs League and I se no reason why
not - who can stop us ?

The Premier League will be won too - all the Africans going to the ANC is going to
help and I personally see United making a big gap appear in the top of the
league and winning easy.

FA Cup ?

Well why not ?

Maybe bad luck strikes in the Cup and we dont win this - but we have great
chance for winning this too !!

I predict more than 1 Champs League for this team too.....!!

Confidently !!!

So yes maybe I am young but all I see right now is a team playing for us every
week that is destined for GREATNESS !!!

Not once or twice like the other teams........but greatness on a big scale this
time !!!

I really believe this - and Fergie agrees too - he says they are his best ever !

SALFORD RED
14-11-2007, 07:57 AM
I voted for 2007/08 but seems I am the only one to own up :(

I explain why ok.....

I am young of course only 23 years but this means nothing !

I read many, many books - sometimes 1 book in 1 day - but I read many books
about United.....so I know history of these guys from 1800s up to now.

Someone else say "maybe they are fans for only 6 months"......well at one point
we were all "fans for only 6 months" don't forget.

I follow United since I was 14 years so 9 years.

They were the biggest brand name in Romania - along with Liverpool.........so
sorry yes - I only join in for 1998/99 and you call me glory hunter if you wish I
don't mind.

I have as big knowledge as most United fans.

I choose this 2007/08 team not based on what they win obviously !!

I choose them because in my opinion (and Fergie's too :p ) I think they would
beat 99 team and 94 team, !!

What faults does this team have ?

None......

11 clean sheets from 19 games - brilliant defence.

Midfield is awesome......Nani, Anderson and Carrick sit on the bench from time to
time !!!

These guys make it into any team in the Prem easy - but not United !!

And for strikers........well we scoew goals for fun right now and will do all
year.....more than any other United team have managed !!

.........and VDS in goal too......

So goalkeeper, Defence, Midfield, Attack..........where are the faults ?

This year I am convinced they win the Champs League and I se no reason why
not - who can stop us ?

The Premier League will be won too - all the Africans going to the ANC is going to
help and I personally see United making a big gap appear in the top of the
league and winning easy.

FA Cup ?

Well why not ?

Maybe bad luck strikes in the Cup and we dont win this - but we have great
chance for winning this too !!

I predict more than 1 Champs League for this team too.....!!

Confidently !!!

So yes maybe I am young but all I see right now is a team playing for us every
week that is destined for GREATNESS !!!

Not once or twice like the other teams........but greatness on a big scale this
time !!!

I really believe this - and Fergie agrees too - he says they are his best ever !

Fair play to you Carly, i hear what you are saying and understand where you are coming from in what you say. ( the only one to do so ).

Not bringing an age thing into this ( or trying not to ).

You may have read many books and know every bit of history of United, have lots of knowledge and i know that you do.

Who is more expert ? The person who reads books about childcare and has lots of degrees or a person who has had children and brought them up ?

The team we have at present is great, no one can deny that, but untill they achieve greatness, at the moment they cannot be classed as Uniteds/SAFs greatest team.
Have a look at this page from The Website of Dreams, theres a good reason why it is laid out as it is. http://www.stretfordend.co.uk/seasonmenu.html

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carlyluvsunited
14-11-2007, 08:10 AM
Fair play to you Carly, i hear what you are saying and understand where you are coming from in what you say. ( the only one to do so ).

Not bringing an age thing into this ( or trying not to ).

You may have read many books and know every bit of history of United, have lots of knowledge and i know that you do.

Who is more expert ? The person who reads books about childcare and has lots of degrees or a person who has had children and brought them up ?

The team we have at present is great, no one can deny that, but untill they achieve greatness, at the moment they cannot be classed as Uniteds/SAFs greatest team.
Have a look at this page from The Website of Dreams, theres a good reason why it is laid out as it is. http://www.stretfordend.co.uk/seasonmenu.html

.

I only mention this age subject because it was brought up this is all.....same with "only being fans for 6 months too".

But for 9 years I learn plenty stuff about this team.....

I don't claim to be good supporter because I dont go to games.....I am good FAN though you know.

I dont ever expect to be part of this "United Family" thing either - I don't have time to go for games week after week.......so for me I will always be outsider type of person understand ?

But to have outside views on subjects like who is best team and sometimes things about The Glazers is good for United fans to listen to !!

Yes we don't have same emotion to blur our view and opinion you see.

So this is why I always make my points :)

Now I go to see website you show me........x

SALFORD RED
14-11-2007, 09:44 AM
I only mention this age subject because it was brought up this is all.....same with "only being fans for 6 months too".

But for 9 years I learn plenty stuff about this team.....

I don't claim to be good supporter because I dont go to games.....I am good FAN though you know.

I dont ever expect to be part of this "United Family" thing either - I don't have time to go for games week after week.......so for me I will always be outsider type of person understand ?

But to have outside views on subjects like who is best team and sometimes things about The Glazers is good for United fans to listen to !!

Yes we don't have same emotion to blur our view and opinion you see.

So this is why I always make my points :)

Now I go to see website you show me........x
I ignore the age thing ( or try to ).
Not going to games does not stop you being a good supporter or fan.
Your heart is Red , you Bleed Red, you ARE part of the " United Family " and you will NEVER be an outsider in my eyes.
NO - ONE is a bigger or better Red than the next person based on how often they go/how much they know/how many replica kits they have etc.
Everyone has got opinions are are allowed to put theres across. Makes this forum a better place that we can all share/listen and learn from each others points of view.
We are all Reds and if we can give our knowledge to each other then we'll make this place what it says at the top....." the best in the world ".

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Damian
14-11-2007, 10:47 AM
98/99 team for me, This is because they wonn the treble and this seasons team have yet to do it ( i think we will) but untill they do they arn't the best... just yet as a squad i think nothing will beat the 98/99 squad but as a starting eleven this seasons team is better (with a few exceptions)

reddwarf
14-11-2007, 10:57 AM
I ignore the age thing ( or try to ).
Not going to games does not stop you being a good supporter or fan.
Your heart is Red , you Bleed Red, you ARE part of the " United Family " and you will NEVER be an outsider in my eyes.
NO - ONE is a bigger or better Red than the next person based on how often they go/how much they know/how many replica kits they have etc.
Everyone has got opinions are are allowed to put theres across. Makes this forum a better place that we can all share/listen and learn from each others points of view.
We are all Reds and if we can give our knowledge to each other then we'll make this place what it says at the top....." the best in the world ".

.

Seconded. Good points well made Salford Red.

SeanUnited
14-11-2007, 02:20 PM
93/4 for the team 98/9 for squad.

Wazza1989
14-11-2007, 09:42 PM
because of the performances we cannot tell until the end of the season..until season the team from the 98/99 season being the inly english team that ever did the treble

man.utd.singh
14-11-2007, 09:59 PM
And i think who ever thinks this seasons team is crap because they havnt won anything is stupid. Its only the start of the season and i am saying that we have better players and they have gelled together better. At the moment we have a better team then 94 and 99. And lets not forget, 1999 champions league final, eventhough it was Amazing it was 2 goals from 2 corners in the last minute! The team we have now against Munic, we would easily win :)

Keano4taoiseach
14-11-2007, 10:52 PM
And i think who ever thinks this seasons team is crap because they havnt won anything is stupid. Its only the start of the season and i am saying that we have better players and they have gelled together better. At the moment we have a better team then 94 and 99. And lets not forget, 1999 champions league final, eventhough it was Amazing it was 2 goals from 2 corners in the last minute! The team we have now against Munic, we would easily win :)



Nobody is saying they are crap.....but they can't be considered great.....until they win some trophies....
If they don't win any trophies no matter how many finals they reach or how many times they beat Chelsea or the Scum they will not be mentioned in the same breadth as the 94 or 99 teams......and rightly so....the same goes for Wenger's young guns...
And it is Fergie who has said this time and time again...you are nothing as a team without trophies and football history will forget you.....

It doesn't matter if our present team would beat the 99 team 10-0...ten times in a row, which they wouldn't anyway, the 99 team will always be greater if our present team fail to win any trophies....

man.utd.singh
17-11-2007, 10:48 AM
Charity Shield :D

The_Red_Prince
18-11-2007, 08:48 PM
i think the 07/08 team can replicate the 98/99 team if they just develop the same qualities that the treble winning side had.

carlyluvsunited
18-11-2007, 10:41 PM
i think the 07/08 team can replicate the 98/99 team if they just develop the same qualities that the treble winning side had.They wont have the same qualities as the 99 team....they are a completely different team with a completely different style of play.....

This is what makes Fergie so great - he not only make many teams but they are all different too........:)

Most people base their ideas for this thread on "trophies won".......so its surprising to see the 07/08 team so far ahead of the 93/93 team ;)

rydersonthestorm
18-11-2007, 10:47 PM
I doesn't suprise me as i would guess the majority of people who voted for the current team haven't seen much of the 93/94 team.

Jazz 16
19-11-2007, 12:09 AM
I doesn't suprise me as i would guess the majority of people who voted for the current team haven't seen much of the 93/94 team.

lol 10% of the votes is hardly a good return for that fantastic team.....

Ibuche
19-11-2007, 01:06 AM
These line-ups are too hard to compare, 'cause times have changed and so has football. Fergie has been able to change Uniteds way of playing through time, which is incredible :eek:
I loved the 1998-99 team, but I don't remember that much of that season(because I didn't have satellite/cable and I was too young to go to a pub to see the matches), I only saw the unforgettable UCL-final. But I would have to vote for this seasons team, it's always a joy to watch Uniteds matches, their way of play is so beautiful most of the time! :)

PrinceZane
19-11-2007, 01:59 AM
"All that shimmers is not gold"

The team this year is flashy, full of talent, and are already convincing people (even though the season is so young) that they are and will win it all.

The bottom line is - no one knows. Until the season is over, no one knows what will happen. We might have the best form and skill, but if we choke then that's it.

I think this would've been better to release after the seaon, or at the start of next season, so we would have a more equal compare and contrast.

That being said... I voted the 98/99. "Can Manchester United score... they always score"

Ajant
19-11-2007, 03:26 AM
13 votes for this team, and 4 for the 93/94....shows ignorance to be honest. In my view(as I've stated) the 98/99 team was the best, then the 93/94...this team we have now has not proved a whole lot...they should be able to become a great team and win a few trophies, but it's way too early to even compare them to the other two. On paper, its great...