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carlyluvsunited
22-11-2007, 03:33 PM
England egos are to blame - Keane

Keane is not one to suffer big egos

Roy Keane has blamed the egos in the England camp for their failure to qualify for
Euro 2008.

The Sunderland boss says all the blame cannot be put on sacked manager Steve
McClaren, whom he knows from their days at Manchester United.

McClaren was assistant at Old Trafford during part of Keane's playing days.

"My opinion, looking in on England from the outside, is that there are too many
egos involved in the England set-up and that has cost them dear," said Keane.

The lack of technique and the ability of England's players has been cited as major
reason for England's poor campaign but Keane brushed off such excuses.

"Unfortunately, the manager takes the brunt of it but I do believe players have to
take more responsibility, especially at that level," he said.

Are England technically inferior?

"When you look at the talent that the England lads have got it is really
unbelievable they haven't qualified.

"When you talk about talent and technique, England have that in abundance at
the moment.

"To say the likes of Wayne Rooney, Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard and David
Beckham are not technically as good as other players is wrong because they
are."

Former England international and Chelsea defender Graeme Le Saux believes the
way the Football Association appointed McClaren - after publicly being turned
down by Luiz Felipe Scolari - has not helped his tenure.

"It's a desperate situation for the national team," Le Saux told BBC Radio 5 Live.

"The FA are the game's managers and administrators and, with the way they've
handled recent events, ultimately they should be accountable.

We need a manager with authority and a real design plan of success

Ex-England international Graeme Le Saux

"The process of choosing a manager is key to how he performs in the early
stages of his career.

"When McClaren took over, after it was widely reported Scolari was going to get
the job and then we arrived at McClaren in the next move, it didn't make sense in
terms of the qualities the two men had."

He added: "The process of choosing the next manager is absolutely crucial - we
have got egg on our face as it is.

"It amazes me that the FA doesn't consult the game itself, to get feedback from
the players. They tend to ignore the employees and it's important that they get
this decision right.

"I think you have to choose somebody who is going to get the best out of the
players.

"I know we've got time to build for the next campaign and we need a manager
with authority and a real design plan of success.

"I'd look at somebody with experience someone like Scolari or Jose Mourinho. I
know Jose well from his days at Chelsea so I've got my t-shirt printed now." www.bbc.co.uk

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Keano4taoiseach
23-11-2007, 12:49 AM
They are technically as good as any other team in the world, including Brazil.

It's just a matter of using their ability and reaching their potential...

Hopefully the next manager can do that, but it will not be easy...

dlan4327
23-11-2007, 05:35 AM
They are technically as good as any other team in the world, including Brazil.

It's just a matter of using their ability and reaching their potential...


Look I'm not an England supporter but I definitely don't fall into the camp of England haters. That said I think most people would say with a great deal of certainty that the English footballers while talented in their own way lack the technical ability of other footballing nations. I'm not going to get into why that is but it is the truth. Joe Cole is about the most technically gifted English player and other than that their style of play doesn't foster technical ability. There's a saying among football analysts, not that I'm claiming to be one, that "In Italy & Spain they play chess, In England they just run". It's a quote you may not agree with but I find it pretty accurate. Actually before I finish I read an interesting article once that the reason English football differs so much from Italy and Spain is that the climate in England, i.e. cold weather & heavy cross winds, mean their is less incentive to practice technical ability and English coaches instead prefer to get their players moving to starve of the cold. Whereas in Spain the milder climate allows players to spend more time developing individual technical skills. Just a thought, really.

Ajant
23-11-2007, 05:38 AM
Pretty much agree with dian327...spot on mate.

Keano4taoiseach
24-11-2007, 01:40 AM
Look I'm not an England supporter but I definitely don't fall into the camp of England haters. That said I think most people would say with a great deal of certainty that the English footballers while talented in their own way lack the technical ability of other footballing nations. I'm not going to get into why that is but it is the truth. Joe Cole is about the most technically gifted English player and other than that their style of play doesn't foster technical ability. There's a saying among football analysts, not that I'm claiming to be one, that "In Italy & Spain they play chess, In England they just run". It's a quote you may not agree with but I find it pretty accurate. Actually before I finish I read an interesting article once that the reason English football differs so much from Italy and Spain is that the climate in England, i.e. cold weather & heavy cross winds, mean their is less incentive to practice technical ability and English coaches instead prefer to get their players moving to starve of the cold. Whereas in Spain the milder climate allows players to spend more time developing individual technical skills. Just a thought, really.

the poetry was quite beautiful......!!
and i thought shakespeare was hard to comprehend..(only joking)

Of course the English players are as good as the Italians or the Spanish or whoever else..
As for Joe Cole being the most technically gifted player, try telling that to Rooney...
Terry and Ferdinand are often mentioned as being in the top 4 or 5 defenders in Europe.......Gerard and Lampard never stop receiving praise.......
Rooney is one of the best strikers in the world........and with an array of quality goal-keepers to choose from......it's mind boggling how they fail time and again....
To even hint at the suggestion that they only run around and it's because of the climate is utter tripe......
George Best was from N.Ireland, argubaly the greatest player ever...he wasn't playing on the beaches of rio de jaineiro or wherever.....
Lest you forget it is the British clubs who are dominating the CL for the last few seasons and it's looking that way this season also....
The players have the ability and then some......it's just how they can use it to the max and fulfill their potential....
Perhaps it was McLaren, perhaps like Keane says, it is their egos, the truth is no one apart from themselves knows for sure........