Evra: What's his problem!!?

[Anderson's God]

Manchester United defender Patrice Evra has lifted the lid on his simmering row with Kevin Davies, claiming the Bolton striker’s apparent dislike for him is ‘bizarre’.

An ongoing clash between the two was the most interesting subplot of Saturday’s shock 1-0 win for Wanderers at The Reebok Stadium, and the treatment dished out to United’s Frenchman infuriated Sir Alex Ferguson who was sent to the stands for his protests at half-time.

Davies was the prime culprit as he felled Evra on a number of occasions and earned himself a yellow card in the process, but the United defender also thundered into a challenge on his opponent as well in the first half.

Evra has now explained how Davies has borne a grudge against him for a year, and that he was furious with the treatment he received at the hands of Gary Megson’s side.

"I received more tackles than I've had in my life,” said Evra.

"It was the same last year when he kicked me as well. I said to him then: 'Why do you do a tackle like that?' and he said: 'Because I don't like you'.

"I didn't understand it. Here he did it again. I think his first tackle on me should have been a red card.

"I don't know what the problem is with Davies, because I don't know him. It's bizarre.

"I was very angry. The captain and the others said to me: 'You need to concentrate on the game, you must not react to a bad tackle like that'.

"I also said to the referee: 'You can't play football like that — this is not a football game'.

"When I play football I do it to play the ball, not to kick somebody. And I keep my eyes on the ball."

[Wazza1989]

he's a retard....Davies realy has a problem

[Nirk]

I might be wrong but wasnt it evra who gave away the foul to guthrie... if it was him can he stop fouling ppl coz he does it all the time

[Anderson's God]

Yeah, you're a little out of the way Georgie.

I remember reading something that Evra once made a bad tackle on him and that it "could've ended his career". He's held the grudge since.

I don't remember where I read it though...


No thats Sagna from Arsenal when Evra was a Monaco player and Sagna was at Auxerre. Sagna's dad is the one that holds the grudge!! :D :D

[chiboygeorge]

Sorry but i think thats one of the more stupid posts i have seen, davies always seemed to get on with the bolton lads, and the majority of them are black:confused:
im sorry then i was just saying that cuz i have seen a lot of footballers hittin regularl cuz they arenot sam color btw...i just fifnshed reading about slavery and i just posted what was on my mind..sorry gagain

[Jazz 16]

I dont get why everyone is freaking out at Davies. Its a mans game and he's a tough player....big deal I say. Evra always gives as good as he gets and can look after himself. It refreshing to see players like Davies still plugging away in the league.

Thierry Henry once said that he was the best striker in the league for pure nuisance factor, strength, heading ability and holding up the ball amongst other things.

Ok Davies made a few dodgy tackles but thats part and parcel of the game. In Sunday league football or astro park its perfectly normal carry on......

[Justice]

i think davies don't like evra cuz he's black so i think thats why he keeps hitting him
lol! classic chiboy! you roolz!

Davies was being a ***** and muscling him out the game, but he took it too far. He should have been off. I am severely unimpressed by clattenburg's smiles at the bolton players. Perhaps were getting Chelsea Syndrome? Get no decisions?

[Keano4taoiseach]

Thierry Henry once said that he was the best striker in the league for pure nuisance factor, strength, heading ability and holding up the ball amongst other things.
......


I agree.......premiership is a physical place...Going down to Bolton and Portsmouth etc.etc. and getting results is what makes champions......

"nuisance factor".......I love it.....:D

[Anderson's God]

I dont get why everyone is freaking out at Davies. Its a mans game and he's a tough player....big deal I say. Evra always gives as good as he gets and can look after himself. It refreshing to see players like Davies still plugging away in the league.

Thierry Henry once said that he was the best striker in the league for pure nuisance factor, strength, heading ability and holding up the ball amongst other things.

Ok Davies made a few dodgy tackles but thats part and parcel of the game. In Sunday league football or astro park its perfectly normal carry on......


Playing foul, dirty - you call it refreshing !!!! Davies wasn't playing football !! Rather targeting our left back for no good reason !

If he'd had broken his leg or left Evra sidelined for the season I promise you, you really wouldn't have said that!!!

People cry foul over Anderson when he waves the imaginary card around or rolls a few times to many But Davies targets Evra, we get members call it refreshing !!! That is a joke !!!

[QUOTE Jazz16] - Starter of the thread Anderson's Antics
Anderson's Antics!
Ok before you all get on my case, I think he had a great game today and played very well but I have a problem......
I often criticise other players from other teams for diving or trying to get oppostion players booked but when I saw Anderson rolling around the floor today and trying to get players booked I was embarassed by his behaviour. It was pretty disgraceful I think. At least Edwin got in there to calm things down.
Am I on my own here or does anyone feel the same as myself?
Your thoughts please.

But it is fine for Davies to target Evra.

[GeordieMancunian]

I watched the game Kevin Davies should of been sent off for that foul, I'd love to slide tackle him and injure him if I catch him walking down a street and see if he likes it. Dirty hacking *******.

Or if I walked down the street, saw him and slied tackled him and broke his leg and if he asks me why I did it, I would just say, I don't like you and I just felt like attacking someone, then he wouldn't like it.

I'm pretty sure that if did that in broad daylight then I'd be arrested for GBH, if I was Patrice, I'd take legal action, you can just attack someone for no reason, go to the police Patrice, get him locked up and let him rot in jail, for the rest of the season.

[PrinceZane]

No thats Sagna from Arsenal when Evra was a Monaco player and Sagna was at Auxerre. Sagna's dad is the one that holds the grudge!! :D :D

Ooooooh yea. That's it. My mistake :D

[Hargreaves]

I dont get why everyone is freaking out at Davies. Its a mans game and he's a tough player....big deal I say. Evra always gives as good as he gets and can look after himself. It refreshing to see players like Davies still plugging away in the league.

Thierry Henry once said that he was the best striker in the league for pure nuisance factor, strength, heading ability and holding up the ball amongst other things.

Ok Davies made a few dodgy tackles but thats part and parcel of the game. In Sunday league football or astro park its perfectly normal carry on......
I can see where you're coming from, but Davies wasn't exactly getting just "physical", some of his tackles were horrific. You call it refreshing the way Davies played on Saturday, if Evra had picked up an injury, I'm sure you'd have been on the grumbling side. I admire the way Bolton usually played under Big Sam, but they were going over the top against us, some decisions that went against us were ridiculous.

But we should just forget the **** and move on, we're the champions after all.

[Anderson's God]

I watched the game Kevin Davies should of been sent off for that foul, I'd love to slide tackle him and injure him if I catch him walking down a street and see if he likes it. Dirty hacking *******.

Or if I walked down the street, saw him and slied tackled him and broke his leg and if he asks me why I did it, I would just say, I don't like you and I just felt like attacking someone, then he wouldn't like it.

I'm pretty sure that if did that in broad daylight then I'd be arrested for GBH, if I was Patrice, I'd take legal action, you can just attack someone for no reason, go to the police Patrice, get him locked up and let him rot in jail, for the rest of the season.



Agreed!! Someone that believes in playing football, not a violent grudge match!

[Jazz 16]

I can see where you're coming from, but Davies wasn't exactly getting just "physical", some of his tackles were horrific. You call it refreshing the way Davies played on Saturday, if Evra had picked up an injury, I'm sure you'd have been on the grumbling side. I admire the way Bolton usually played under Big Sam, but they were going over the top against us, some decisions that went against us were ridiculous.

But we should just forget the **** and move on, we're the champions after all.


I didnt actually say that. I said it was refreshing to still see players like him in the league in general. I wasnt talking about Saturday itself. Obviously he went in a bit hard on Evra, but Evra gave as good as he got.

[Jazz 16]

Playing foul, dirty - you call it refreshing !!!! Davies wasn't playing football !! Rather targeting our left back for no good reason !

If he'd had broken his leg or left Evra sidelined for the season I promise you, you really wouldn't have said that!!!

People cry foul over Anderson when he waves the imaginary card around or rolls a few times to many But Davies targets Evra, we get members call it refreshing !!! That is a joke !!!

[QUOTE Jazz16] - Starter of the thread Anderson's Antics
Anderson's Antics!
Ok before you all get on my case, I think he had a great game today and played very well but I have a problem......
I often criticise other players from other teams for diving or trying to get oppostion players booked but when I saw Anderson rolling around the floor today and trying to get players booked I was embarassed by his behaviour. It was pretty disgraceful I think. At least Edwin got in there to calm things down.
Am I on my own here or does anyone feel the same as myself?
Your thoughts please.

But it is fine for Davies to target Evra.


Thanks AG for going to all that trouble......:rolleyes:

I was talking about Davies as a player in general not just about his performance on Saturday. He plays hard and he plays to win, just like Keane, Vieira and many many more. I dont see why you are bringing up my old Anderson thread to compare these two issues :confused:
Anderson is young and acted pretty badly, rolling around like he got shot and waving cards about. I really dont like this trait in players. I think its awful but he WILL learn in time, and I understand that. I wont get into this again. I only started that thread to instigate debate.
Davies on the other hand is an old school type player who loves to get stuck in and puts his head where it hurts. I admire players like that. Yes he played hard and maybe dirty on Evra but Davies got his punishment (a yellow) so lets leave it at that.
I prefered football when it was a mans game with a few crunching tackles going in. Thats how I play and its what I expect in return, no big deal, take the rough with the smooth I say. Football has nearly turned into a non contact sport for fairies ;)
I still stand by what I said before........

[Red Devil]

Boateng (Boro) has the same problem with Ronaldo, everytime they meet its fireworks.

[Anderson's God]

[QUOTE=Anderson's God]Playing foul, dirty - you call it refreshing !!!! Davies wasn't playing football !! Rather targeting our left back for no good reason !

If he'd had broken his leg or left Evra sidelined for the season I promise you, you really wouldn't have said that!!!

People cry foul over Anderson when he waves the imaginary card around or rolls a few times to many But Davies targets Evra, we get members call it refreshing !!! That is a joke !!!




Thanks AG for going to all that trouble......:rolleyes:

I was talking about Davies as a player in general not just about his performance on Saturday. He plays hard and he plays to win, just like Keane, Vieira and many many more. I dont see why you are bringing up my old Anderson thread to compare these two issues :confused:
Anderson is young and acted pretty badly, rolling around like he got shot and waving cards about. I really dont like this trait in players. I think its awful but he WILL learn in time, and I understand that. I wont get into this again. I only started that thread to instigate debate.
Davies on the other hand is an old school type player who loves to get stuck in and puts his head where it hurts. I admire players like that. Yes he played hard and maybe dirty on Evra but Davies got his punishment (a yellow) so lets leave it at that.
I prefered football when it was a mans game with a few crunching tackles going in. Thats how I play and its what I expect in return, no big deal, take the rough with the smooth I say. Football has nearly turned into a non contact sport for fairies ;)
I still stand by what I said before........


No Davies is certainly no Keane or Vieira. How can you compare them? Keane and company are classes above. So maybe just because Joey Barton can pack a crunching tackle or pack a punch – which he has done before – that makes him a Keane or Vieira??

I bring up the Anderson issue because you go on about his antics like he broke a player’s leg. Fair enough I don’t agree with Anderson’s behavior to a certain extent!

But it appears to be ok for Davies to target Evra!!! Davies played dirty – he’s the new Keane. Maybe we should sign too!! As Evra said he should have seen Red! Indeed he should! Filthy player that you call the new “Keane”. I dare not imagine how foul you play/played football!!

If the situation did arise where Evra got seriously injured and it can happen, I very much doubt you would have said that!!! In fact I would have bet my life on it!!


Now if that had been Anderson trying to target a player, we would have heard the same like you did after Arsenal eh!!

[Jazz 16]

[QUOTE=Jazz 16]


No Davies is certainly no Keane or Vieira. How can you compare them? Keane and company are classes above. So maybe just because Joey Barton can pack a crunching tackle or pack a punch – which he has done before – that makes him a Keane or Vieira??

I bring up the Anderson issue because you go on about his antics like he broke a player’s leg. Fair enough I don’t agree with Anderson’s behavior to a certain extent!

But it appears to be ok for Davies to target Evra!!! Davies played dirty – he’s the new Keane. Maybe we should sign too!! As Evra said he should have seen Red! Indeed he should! Filthy player that you call the new “Keane”. I dare not imagine how foul you play/played football!!

If the situation did arise where Evra got seriously injured and it can happen, I very much doubt you would have said that!!! In fact I would have bet my life on it!!


Now if that had been Anderson trying to target a player, we would have heard the same like you did after Arsenal eh!!

I said Davies plays hard and plays to win like Keane. Thats the only comparison I made. You should spend a bit more time actually reading what I write as opposed to making assumptions.

You go on as if I hate Anderson..... I made a thread about his antics once, and most people actually agreed with what I said. I think Anderson will become a great player at OT and its exciting times for him and the fans. I have nothing against him except for his bad habits which Fergie will stamp out in time.

Im not sure why you keep giving me a hard time about your God, when even you yourself dont agree with his behaviour. See in bold above......

[Anderson's God]

It just an argument now, screw it, not worth the stress!

[Keano4taoiseach]

Boateng (Boro) has the same problem with Ronaldo, everytime they meet its fireworks.

lol....at this stage it is the entire Boro team who have a grudge against him.....

[BALROG]

the prem is war ,bolton won the first stage ,evra will be given justice and i hope its a goal and a big shiner on davies eye!!

[PrinceZane]

the prem is war ,bolton won the first stage ,evra will be given justice and i hope its a goal and a big shiner on davies eye!!

Eh... I'd be happy with a big shiny trophy instead :D

[Red Devil]

The secret of successful debate is to argue with dignity.

[rubberdecky83]

I take Jazz's point about Davies being a no-nonsense player like Keane, Vieira etc, the guy is tough and direct but he does a job for Bolton. He would probably admit himself that he deserved to go Saturday, some of the challenges were the other side of awful.

But for me, this is where Evra lets himself down. Referees are human, right, just to clarify. So in a situation where one player gets mangled by a bad tackle, there should be a victim and an instigator. Ok well in Evra's case he is not the best victim as he has a tendency to retaliate and get up in people's faces and his tendency to dive (as evidenced at OT last night) does not endear him to referees. I'm not saying that its right that referees should be influenced by stuff like this but it is undoubtedly a factor. I suppose you could call it the 'Ashley Cole' factor, referees dont want to give you anything because you are a pr*ck. Now I'm not saying Evra is anywhere near as bad as that but he doesnt help himself either.

Compare him to the likes of Ole, never retaliated, always put his hands up if he fouled someone and never dived or rolled around like a stuck pig. Referees will protect a guy like that. I apologise if I ran off the point here but I was annoyed with Evra last night for diving when he could have stuck a cross in, am sick of United players doing that.

[carlyluvsunited]

[QUOTE=Anderson's God]

I said Davies plays hard and plays to win like Keane. Thats the only comparison I made. You should spend a bit more time actually reading what I write as opposed to making assumptions.

You go on as if I hate Anderson..... I made a thread about his antics once, and most people actually agreed with what I said. I think Anderson will become a great player at OT and its exciting times for him and the fans. I have nothing against him except for his bad habits which Fergie will stamp out in time.

Im not sure why you keep giving me a hard time about your God, when even you yourself dont agree with his behaviour. See in bold above......Annoying isn't it ?

In several of my threads I say one thing - then maybe after 2 pages of posts by others the whole story has been twisted around and people accuse me of saying things I haven't even said - because they don't read and follow the whole thread through.

Much better boys and girls to keep up with every post in a thread and to keep to what the person actually said rather than what someone may have wrongly interpretted what they say........:)

[RichardsReds]

So i read the other thread about Evra's comment saying Davies was kicking him cheating etc...
Evra seemed to be doing the right thing coming out publically saying this. I had huge respect for him and even more so after saying about Davies being a cheat.

Then last night... He took a horrific dive in the box and got booked..

How can he have a go at one guy for cheating then go and do something which in my opinion is a far worse crime. Cheating to get a penalty.

I'm really shocked at the whole thing at the moment...

[Red Devil]

Evra should have been straight redded for that dive last night, luckily, he wasn't!

[Jazz 16]

The secret of successful debate is to argue with dignity.

And would this be directed at me or everyone in general mr RD??:confused:

Going back to the whole Evra thing..............He takes a dirty cheating dive last night and gets booked for it. Its pretty ironic really after all that has been said by us the fans and by Evra himself. Ill say no more than that on the issue as it somehow keeps getting me into trouble ;)

[Red Devil]

General observation on the thread as a whole Jazz

[RichardsReds]

I think my post was worth an entire new thread whoever moved it! Thats why i made one!