Its Official - Gazza is A Nutter!

[GeordieMancunian]

Former England footballer Paul Gascoigne has been arrested under the Mental Health Act.

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The former Newcastle, Spurs and Lazio midfielder was arrested at the Hilton Hotel in Gateshead last night and sectioned under the Mental Health Act.
His family has told Sky News that the former footballer called police himself and that the incident is "a cry for help".

A Northumbria Police spokesman said: "Police attended the Hilton Hotel in Gateshead yesterday evening after we received a report of concern for a 40-year-old man staying at the hotel.

"The man was detained under the Mental Health Act and no one was injured during the incident."

The Mental Health Act is used when a person is considered to be a danger to themselves or to others.

[reddwarf]

I'm concerned for Gazza and hope he recovers as well as he can. I understand that when he was a young lad he watched one of his best friends die in his arms and many have attributed his drinking problem to not wanting to face the reality of what happened.

Although I have to say that it's hard to feel too much sympathy for him because of the wife beating - some things are unforgivable, but I prefer to think of Gazza the footballer because he was a genius on the pitch.

[GeordieMancunian]

I'm concerned for Gazza and hope he recovers as well as he can. I understand that when he was a young lad he watched one of his best friends die in his arms and many have attributed his drinking problem to not wanting to face the reality of what happened.

Although I have to say that it's hard to feel too much sympathy for him because of the wife beating - some things are unforgivable, but I prefer to think of Gazza the footballer because he was a genius on the pitch.
The Hilton, Gateshead, is only a two minute walk from my house. :o

[reddwarf]

The Hilton, Gateshead, is only a two minute walk from my house. :o


You didn't buy him a pint did you?! :eek:

[Jazz 16]

You have to feel sorry for gazza, well I do anyway.
I read one of his books, the one about all his problems: drink, drugs, OCD amongst many other things that have ruined his life.
I hope he recovers from this.

[alto10]

its a shame was a great player if only he had come to Utd could all be so dif

[eoininho]

its a shame was a great player if only he had come to Utd could all be so dif
its a lesson to any player who gets the opportunity to play for fergie and UNITED!!!!

[SHERLZ6899]

Sad really, to think this guy could have been a great at United..... But you only turn fergie down once !!!!

[haggler]

love the guy and hope he gets better soon

[conor myles]

Gazza the legend hope you get better bro

[Justice]

Wouldnt have been a crackhead with Fergie as a manager thats all im saying.

[Red Devil]

Paul Gascoigne has been sectioned on the mental health act. This means that he is officially a loony.

Whilst he was an immense talent, he, like Best before him, let fair weather friends pump up his ego to gargantuan proportions, then left him wallowing in beer!

Gascoigne, now 40, has suffered from alcohol abuse for many years now. He was treated for pneumonia and last year underwent emergency surgery for a perforated stomach ulcer after being taken ill as he was celebrating his 40th birthday.

I do not feel sorry for him, its self induced, but he could have had better counsel.

[CROoney]

Paul Gascoigne has been sectioned on the mental health act. This means that he is officially a loony.

Whilst he was an immense talent, he, like Best before him, let fair weather friends pump up his ego to gargantuan proportions, then left him wallowing in beer!

Gascoigne, now 40, has suffered from alcohol abuse for many years now. He was treated for pneumonia and last year underwent emergency surgery for a perforated stomach ulcer after being taken ill as he was celebrating his 40th birthday.

I do not feel sorry for him, its self induced, but he could have had better counsel.

oh c'mon mate---that's direspectful - you don't know anything about his problems, childhood and stuff- I always try to look at it this way - imagine if my kid had same problems and i hear someone saying those things to him.. it's an illness, drinking that is. it's not his choice for being addicted...Or maybe it is his choice but you can't make a mockery out of his bad choices... You haven't had any mistakes in your life mate ? He searched for help - that 's a good sign . Just because you haven't had many bad choices in your life till now it doesn't mean you wont . And it wouldn't help you experience the same treatment if it happened to you . You can't treath another man's bad state like that ! i'm surprised with your statements mate..you're probably angry and stuff but that's not the way to go

[Red Devil]

No I am not angry and I have watched Gazza since he was a youngster starting out. His ego got too big for him and he was often seen binge drinking (he invented it) - believe me I do know what I am talking about. I have seen him on chat shows before taken for a complete monkey. He slurred his speech, kept laughing at himself and at others and this was when he was still playing. You do not know this person, only what you have possible heard, I have lived it - he was a constant embarrassment to ticket paying fans who tended not to see his other side because he scored a good goal now and then.

I am not disrespectful, the guy was an idiot.

it's not his choice for being addicted. Really!!! Then who is at fault? There is only one person to point at. If I go out to the pub and get blitzed, its my fault and my fault only!!

[CROoney]

No I am not angry and I have watched Gazza since he was a youngster starting out. His ego got too big for him and he was often seen binge drinking (he invented it) - believe me I do know what I am talking about. I have seen him on chat shows before taken for a complete monkey. He slurred his speech, kept laughing at himself and at others and this was when he was still playing. You do not know this person, only what you have possible heard, I have lived it - he was a constant embarrassment to ticket paying fans who tended not to see his other side because he scored a good goal now and then.

I am not disrespectful, the guy was an idiot.
the gus was an idiot, true - but haven't you heard the phrase (which is totally transparent in his example )"what goes around comes around" ( maybe it sets you an example )...you don't know why he started drinking i meant--- you don't know his story - it's not his fault he hasn't been thought to make the right choices ( just like drugs - it starts when you're a teenager... once you sober up- it's too late - you've become addicted ) - it could happen to everyone - no man is born evil .. Oh and -The guy is still an idiot - but a sick one

No I am not angry and I have watched Gazza since he was a youngster starting out. His ego got too big for him and he was often seen binge drinking (he invented it) - believe me I do know what I am talking about. I have seen him on chat shows before taken for a complete monkey. He slurred his speech, kept laughing at himself and at others and this was when he was still playing. You do not know this person, only what you have possible heard, I have lived it - he was a constant embarrassment to ticket paying fans who tended not to see his other side because he scored a good goal now and then.

I am not disrespectful, the guy was an idiot.

Really!!! Then who is at fault? There is only one person to point at. If I go out to the pub and get blitzed, its my fault and my fault only!!
but if you started doing it when being 12 - then it's not !!! and you said it yourself - he could have had better counsil-- i stick to that - you have to lead a young person, show him the right choices, the right examples

[Red Devil]

CRO - I do know the guy, I have live alongside him as a football fan.

I got blitzed when I was about 18 or 19. I felt so bad I said never again, and didn't.

Gazza could not say NO! Yes, Gazza is a sick one, and his treatment will be paid for by the public. There is a growing element in our society that states that self induced illness treatment should not be on the NHS (the state), smoking is one example, alcoholism is another. WE will pay for his treatment amd I do not agree.

He had so called friends around him, like this well known "Seven Bellies" who constantly were plying him with drink that Gazza was paying for.

Football is also to blame - the superstar factor and blind hero worship of people who do not even understand the terminology behind the word "hero". Gazza is not a hero either.

[CROoney]

CRO - I do know the guy, I have live alongside him as a football fan.

I got blitzed when I was about 18 or 19. I felt so bad I said never again, and didn't.

Gazza could not say NO! Yes, Gazza is a sick one, and his treatment will be paid for by the public. There is a growing element in our society that states that self induced illness treatment should not be on the NHS (the state), smoking is one example, alcoholism is another. WE will pay for his treatment amd I do not agree.

He had so called friends around him, like this well known "Seven Bellies" who constantly were plying him with drink that Gazza was paying for.

Football is also to blame - the superstar factor and blind hero worship of people who do not even understand the terminology behind the word "hero". Gazza is not a hero either.
that's what i'm i'm trying to point out - could not...doesn't mean he didn't try.. you have lived accross him, but does that really mean anything ? does that mean that you know what was happening behind close doors... do you know what's happening behind closed doors of your best friend tbh.. the other day there was all over the news that a kid hung himslef in his own house at school time, during break. And he was 15 ffs.. A 15 yr old. And all of his friends were shocked. They said that he'd been a model friend a great lad , a perfect pupil who hardly had any problems at all. His parents said it too. Imagine what he must have went through... Only few persons know that, and certainly not his neigbour mate

[Red Devil]

15? No mate, I am talking about early 20s onwards. He has been in court for beating people up, he has been in court for wrecking bars, he has been in court for beating his wife up, he has been in every newspaper under the sky, and all for alcoholism. And his thought it all so funny!! No disrespect to you CRO but you do not live here, you have not seen a zillionth of what he got up to.

NO, no matter what you say, we disagree - fine - but its all self induced, no sympathy from me.

[CROoney]

nevertheless -it is probably his mistake - but that doesn't give us the right to mock at him -everyone 's had them

15? No mate, I am talking about early 20s onwards. He has been in court for beating people up, he has been in court for wrecking bars, he has been in court for beating his wife up, he has been in every newspaper under the sky, and all for alcoholism. And his thought it all so funny!! No disrespect to you CRO but you do not live here, you have not seen a zillionth of what he got up to.

NO, no matter what you say, we disagree - fine - but its all self induced, no sympathy from me.
but the harm had already been done up to that part ... fair enough . and you're right about that ( that i don't have a clue about living in your country ) - i have a feeling that you're ( as a nation ) a bit cold booded when it comes to other people ... too much "sun " influence ;)that's why you have such a specific sense of humor which often flerts with controversy IMO...

[Red Devil]

I do not mock, and nowhere does it say that, but sympathy - none.

[haggler]

alcholism is a disease not a lifestyle choice . this is not my point of view it is medical fact . the fact you can take or leave a drink is not relevant to an addict the point is they cant stop .

i have watched a good friend destroyed through alcoholism . she had a phd in chemical engineering and a good job . now her friend is a vodka bottle and she has been in and out of drying out clinics for years . she knows in her lucid moments that what she is doing is not only stupid but is killing her but she cant stop . as for mental health issues i only hope you and yours are never affected by them .

there are hundreds of people coming out with tales of his generosity and one springing to mind was a man who rang talk sport who was a mascot for spurs in cup semi many years ago . he said that he was crying and didnt want to go out , gazza saw this and started playing ball with him made him laugh and promised him a huge bag of sweets if he went out . after the game gazza came and found lad and family and presented him with said goody bag and signed ball and shirt from team . he had a lot more plus sides to his charachter than bestie ever did yet the same sort of vitriol was not heaped on best . before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes !

[CROoney]

I do not mock, and nowhere does it say that, but sympathy - none.
fair enough - i'm a bit oversensitive sometimes... and it is different communicating over the net.. anyway - i think every story has it's own backround

[carlyluvsunited]

I don't know much about this guy 'Gazza' ...

I was reading through this thread and beginning to feel a bit sorry for him.

Then RD says he was in court for beating his wife up ...

So now I feel nothing for him ...

"Oh poor man - when he is 12 years old this happened to him and at 15 years old
this happened so beating his wife up is OK ....."

Whatever ....

Find a cell in the loony bin and leave him there for a year or two ... :mad:

[CROoney]

I don't know much about this guy 'Gazza' ...

I was reading through this thread and beginning to feel a bit sorry for him.

Then RD says he was in court for beating his wife up ...

So now I feel nothing for him ...

"Oh poor man - when he is 12 years old this happened to him and at 15 years old
this happened so beating his wife up is OK ....."

Whatever ....

Find a cell in the loony bin and leave him there for a year or two ... :mad:
oh you feminists :p...seriously - what happend in the past determs our acts in the future carly... how do you know for a fact that he hadn't seen his father beating up his mother before beating the crap out of him... or maybe he didn't even have a father

[Red Devil]

CRO, don't forget I have lived through this. Gazza was that bad at one stage that I actually cheered when he crippled himself in a cup final trying, in turn, to cripple another player. He really was too - he went in and I thought this is a red card - then he got stretchered off instead and the ref didn't even book him. Took him out of the game for months did that attempted knee job!


CRO, your reply to Carly, please - your fishing for excuses now. I will tell you something and this is true:


I didn't have a childhood, not at all. My father regularly beat me and I had no help from so called social services. My whole childhood was of beatings and running. So please do not lecture me on what happened in HIS childhood. As a direct consequence of MY childhood, I made sure my three had the best childhood they could have, they did, and they told me later on.

[CROoney]

alcholism is a disease not a lifestyle choice . this is not my point of view it is medical fact . the fact you can take or leave a drink is not relevant to an addict the point is they cant stop .

i have watched a good friend destroyed through alcoholism . she had a phd in chemical engineering and a good job . now her friend is a vodka bottle and she has been in and out of drying out clinics for years . she knows in her lucid moments that what she is doing is not only stupid but is killing her but she cant stop . as for mental health issues i only hope you and yours are never affected by them .

there are hundreds of people coming out with tales of his generosity and one springing to mind was a man who rang talk sport who was a mascot for spurs in cup semi many years ago . he said that he was crying and didnt want to go out , gazza saw this and started playing ball with him made him laugh and promised him a huge bag of sweets if he went out . after the game gazza came and found lad and family and presented him with said goody bag and signed ball and shirt from team . he had a lot more plus sides to his charachter than bestie ever did yet the same sort of vitriol was not heaped on best . before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes !
brilliant post ---- you deserve a reputation for that ..

CRO, don't forget I have lived through this. Gazza was that bad at one stage that I actually cheered when he crippled himself in a cup final trying, in turn, to cripple another player. He really was too - he went in and I thought this is a red card - then he got stretchered off instead and the ref didn't even book him. Took him out of the game for months did that attempted knee job!
i understand that perfectly but i think that booze and drugs were doing that - but i didn't like him as a person too...but i feel a bit sorry now because as i said - no one was born evil

[carlyluvsunited]

oh you feminists :p...seriously - what happend in the past determs our acts in the future carly... how do you know for a fact that he hadn't seen his father beating up his mother before beating the crap out of him... or maybe he didn't even have a fatherI don't see that as an excuse really ...

If his father was a murderer is it OK for him to do it ?

Or a rapist ... would we forgive Gazza because his father did it ?

Any man hitting girls gets no sympathy from me - in my community back home if a
man hits a girl all the other guys would beat the crap out of him - it's not allowed
to happen !

Having said that the girls at home are a bit different to UK girls ... I imagine the
way some of the UK girls behave would drive a man mad some times.

I don't know ...

Seems Gazza is a good guy with a wreckless streak in him ...

Maybe he deserves a good chance to get better again ...

I wish him luck either way ...:)

[CROoney]

there are a bit less smart people out there who didn't have the SAME response like you ? Like I said, a nut ;) Don't worry, I did not think you were lecturing. We are simply discussing.

I don't see that as an excuse really ...

If his father was a murderer is it OK for him to do it ?

Or a rapist ... would we forgive Gazza because his father did it ?

Any man hitting girls gets no sympathy from me - in my community back home if a
man hits a girl all the other guys would beat the crap out of him - it's not allowed
to happen !

Having said that the girls at home are a bit different to UK girls ... I imagine the
way some of the UK girls behave would drive a man mad some times.

I don't know ...

Seems Gazza is a good guy with a wreckless streak in him ...

Maybe he deserves a good chance to get better again ...

I wish him luck either way ...:)
no - it doesn't give him the right to do it - but i'm not focusing on that - i'm trying to understand his behaviure...why did he do it ?
oh and hes'not a good guy at all - but maybe, just maybe selfdestruction is not a choice it's a way

[carlyluvsunited]

Like I said, a nut ;) Don't worry, I did not think you were lecturing. We are simply discussing.


no - it doesn't give him the right to do it - but i'm not focusing on that - i'm trying to understand his behaviure...why did he do it ?
oh and hes'not a good guy at all - but maybe, just maybe selfdestruction is not a choice it's a wayOK maybe 'good' is not the right word ...

I would say he is a kind man ...

A good example is here where he helped the little boy ...

I've heard many examples where he helps people ...

Jekyll and Hide character he is ...

Some blame goes to the first manager he had when he hit the big time too ...

Fergie had 8-10 very young players in the days of Giggs, Beckham and Co.

Not one of them was exposed to the media too much until he saw fit for it to
happen. He protected them and took good care of them - as did Sir Matt before
him with his players !

[haggler]

I don't know much about this guy 'Gazza' ...

I was reading through this thread and beginning to feel a bit sorry for him.

Then RD says he was in court for beating his wife up ...

So now I feel nothing for him ...

"Oh poor man - when he is 12 years old this happened to him and at 15 years old
this happened so beating his wife up is OK ....."

Whatever ....

Find a cell in the loony bin and leave him there for a year or two ... :mad:
good job you two are not in the judiciary or everyone would be hanging .

gazzas daughter shed a little light some years back on the wife beating in as much as she said her mother would attack him in drink like a dervish and he slapped her off . mental illness should not be mocked like this

[carlyluvsunited]

good job you two are not in the judiciary or everyone would be hanging .

gazzas daughter shed a little light some years back on the wife beating in as much as she said her mother would attack him in drink like a dervish and he slapped her off . mental illness should not be mocked like thisWho is mocking it ... :confused:

I see what you say about her ...

This is why I kind of retracted from my statement a little ...

With all due respect girls/women in the UK are so different to girls/women back
home and they give their men a hard time I have seen this. So it's maybe harder
to not hit them in a moment of anger.

I don't know about this kind of thing anyway ...

But nobody is mocking him or his illness ...

[carlyluvsunited]

Got 2 threads on this ... :eek:

Merged ... ;)

[haggler]

nutter looney bin ? not derogatory mocking terms ? .

i will post no more on this as i am starting to sound like a p.c liberal

[carlyluvsunited]

nutter looney bin ? not derogatory mocking terms ? .

i will post no more on this as i am starting to sound like a p.c liberalNo you don't sound like that ;)

These words have been used but I'm sure it's not in a vindictive or nasty way.

I certainly don't wish harm on him - he has a big following of fans in the UK so he
can't be all bad !

[-zuco-]

He's the biggest waste of footballing talent ever. Now he's skint, has no way of making money and is an alcoholic. I can honestly see him being dead before 50.

[Jazz 16]

alcholism is a disease not a lifestyle choice . this is not my point of view it is medical fact . the fact you can take or leave a drink is not relevant to an addict the point is they cant stop .

i have watched a good friend destroyed through alcoholism . she had a phd in chemical engineering and a good job . now her friend is a vodka bottle and she has been in and out of drying out clinics for years . she knows in her lucid moments that what she is doing is not only stupid but is killing her but she cant stop . as for mental health issues i only hope you and yours are never affected by them .

there are hundreds of people coming out with tales of his generosity and one springing to mind was a man who rang talk sport who was a mascot for spurs in cup semi many years ago . he said that he was crying and didnt want to go out , gazza saw this and started playing ball with him made him laugh and promised him a huge bag of sweets if he went out . after the game gazza came and found lad and family and presented him with said goody bag and signed ball and shirt from team . he had a lot more plus sides to his charachter than bestie ever did yet the same sort of vitriol was not heaped on best . before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes !

Well said Haggler. I agree with every word.
There is a lot more to Gazza than meets the eye.
He was always a people pleaser and the most generous
person around. I find some people's views on him
quite offensive and derogatory.
Yes he was different and wasa bit of a clown but
thats half the reason people loved him, the other
half being his incredible football gifts.

Gazza has had so many things happen in his life that
most of us could never understand or even deal with....
so to be mocking to him is pretty cruel, despite the
stupid/bad things he did.

He has had to deal with obsessions and ocd,
depression, drink and drug related addictions.
I read his book 'Being Gazza', where he goes through his
real life counselling sessions with his therapist.
The book basically offers a pratical insight into how anyone with
similar issues can gain strength and help from Gazza's own
experiences. His book has already touched so many lives and
helped people. Even when he was in a clinic in the States, he was
helping others.

I recommend everyone to read his book before passing judgement
on the man. He had his flaws but he was a good man.
I hope he makes a recovery and can get a focus in his life again.