Who Is The Current Manchester United Player That You Dislike?

[Rowland Cheng]

my mate asked me this question the other day, and i was baffled, but there must be someone i dislike/inefficient in the squad:

i would have to say Mikael Silvestre, i'm totally fine with him, but if i have to come up with an answer, it's him. No long explanation needed. :D

[Keano4taoiseach]

Hi Rowland, interesting question.

I'm not sure I dislike any player to be honest or questuion there ability.

I think the Portsmouth defeat proved that this current team is not as good as everybody thought.

I would like to see a bit more work from Ronaldo in matches, especially tracking back more in Europe where closing down and winning back possession is essential as teams in Europe will punish you if they have the ball.

I think the Portsmouth defeat however will have a positive effect on our season as the players will be desperate to score goals, exact revenge and destroy teams!!!!

[Andreas_svan]

Hi Rowland, interesting question.

I'm not sure I dislike any player to be honest or questuion there ability.

I think the Portsmouth defeat proved that this current team is not as good as everybody thought.

I would like to see a bit more work from Ronaldo in matches, especially tracking back more in Europe where closing down and winning back possession is essential as teams in Europe will punish you if they have the ball.

I think the Portsmouth defeat however will have a positive effect on our season as the players will be desperate to score goals, exact revenge and destroy teams!!!!

is there anything more to say? no. great comment.

[SolskjaertheLegend]

Dong Fahnzou (sp?)

He's truely awful.

[carlyluvsunited]

Dong Fahnzou (sp?)

He's truely awful.Truely (sp)

Truly ... ;)

[United_OG]

they all play for united so i cannot dislike any of them!

[SolskjaertheLegend]

Truely (sp)

Truly ... ;)

lol thats why i dont write news room articles

my english is truly awful

:rolleyes:

[carlyluvsunited]

lol thats why i dont write news room articles

my english is truly awful

:rolleyes:I'll teach you ... ;)

I don't dislike any United member of staff ...

But if I had to name one player I have a problem with it would be Louis Saha.

I've lost my patience waiting for fitness to come for him.

Not his fault I know but just how long do you wait and wait for someone who is
never going to be fully fit for any length of time.

Mr Ronaldo is beginning to bug me too - despite the goals.

Prima Donna, showboater etc etc - but when the going gets tough or things don't
work out for him - he tends to disappear.

Having said this - it is a very tight line that geniuses must walk, (I know I find it
hard http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k211/small_carly/MSN/lmao.gif) so maybe I expect too much from him and give him a hard
time ... :rolleyes:

[Stephen]

None. Don't waste time hating one of your own.

If you boo any player in the shirt of MUFC then you are a disgrace.

[-zuco-]

lol thats why i dont write news room articles
my english is truly awful

:rolleyes:
Excuses excuses :rolleyes:

Dong and Saha are two players we should get rid of in the summer.

Only problem is who would be silly enough to buy them? :confused:

[scott 4 evra]

there's always one player i dislike. it was alan smith but now it's hargreeves. you hear the same **** about them giving 100% but there is just no quality. everyone gives 100% but i don't recall hating a player a smuch as hargreeves.

i hated him before he came here and prayed that we wouldn't sign him. and the transfer fee was ridiculous. however, i love the rest of the players at the moment.

[Keano4taoiseach]

None. Don't waste time hating one of your own.

If you boo any player in the shirt of MUFC then you are a disgrace.

That's not what he's saying mate. Read the thread post.

He means which player do you think is not contributing to the team, who is not good enough technically etc.

Of course fans can discuss such things and give constructive criticsm.

And, of course I anyway, would never boo a member of my own team, whether sunday league or United.

[Stephen]

there's always one player i dislike. it was alan smith but now it's hargreeves. you hear the same **** about them giving 100% but there is just no quality. everyone gives 100% but i don't recall hating a player a smuch as hargreeves.

i hated him before he came here and prayed that we wouldn't sign him. and the transfer fee was ridiculous. however, i love the rest of the players at the moment.
Hargreaves is quality, and adds to the midfield when it's needed. Qaulity player, great transfer.

Dong won't leave in the summer. He's here to sell shirts. Fergie knows it, but it's Gill the tit who has the last say.

[-zuco-]

Hargreaves is class, he breaks up all the attacks with little fuss.

People tell me Mascherano is crap as well but these are the
guys who only see the game on MOTD so they don't see the
hard work that they put in every game. I bet Hargreaves
covers more grass than anybody else in 90 minutes. Defensive
midfielders are always under rated.

[Keano4taoiseach]

Hargreaves is quality, and adds to the midfield when it's needed. Qaulity player, great transfer.

Dong won't leave in the summer. He's here to sell shirts. Fergie knows it, but it's Gill the tit who has the last say.

He will never create in the way Scholes did. Playing Hargreaves means we will need to play a creative player alonside him.

He is a work-horse and has got himself to where he is now, not out of natural ability, but sheer hard-work.

I am inclined to agree with Scott but I will give him the benefit of the doubt obviously.

But, I ask you this Stephen, Is Hargreaves or will he ever reach the levels of Scholes or Keane in their prime. Simple Answer: Not a chance.

[Stephen]

Hargreaves is class, he breaks up all the attacks with little fuss.

People tell me Mascherano is crap as well but these are the
guys who only see the game on MOTD so they don't see the
hard work that they put in every game. I bet Hargreaves
covers more grass than anybody else in 90 minutes. Defensive
midfielders are always under rated.
Exactly.

Michael Carrick has been one of the best performers for United over the past few weeks. But who notices?

[-zuco-]

He will never create in the way Scholes did. Playing Hargreaves means we will need to play a creative player alonside him.

He is a work-horse and has got himself to where he is now, not out of natural ability, but sheer hard-work.

I am inclined to agree with Scott but I will give him the benefit of the doubt obviously.

But, I ask you this Stephen, Is Hargreaves or will he ever reach the levels of Scholes or Keane in their prime. Simple Answer: Not a chance.

With Scholes and Hargreaves you're comparing two players who play
in different positions so there is obviously no comparison.
Hargreaves is very much in the Keane mould and is still in his first
season at United where he has struggled with injuries, give him a chance.

[Stephen]

He will never create in the way Scholes did. Playing Hargreaves means we will need to play a creative player alonside him.

He is a work-horse and has got himself to where he is now, not out of natural ability, but sheer hard-work.

I am inclined to agree with Scott but I will give him the benefit of the doubt obviously.

But, I ask you this Stephen, Is Hargreaves or will he ever reach the levels of Scholes or Keane in their prime. Simple Answer: Not a chance.

Not a chance in hell mate, as Scholesy and Keano were/are two magnificent players who will NEVER be replaced at United. Same with Giggs.

We'll adapt though. We always have done. Hargreaves will clean up, allowing the other player to push more and more forward.

And this creative player?

He wears number 8.

[jd_united]

I would probably have to say Dong although I do not dislike him at all, just since the Cov entry game I cannot see why he is even in our squad.

I never used to be Kieran Richardson's biggest fan. And then there was the era of

[scott 4 evra]

ye zico people like you annoy me. just cause you say a holding midfielder is poor you come out with- you don't notice the work he does. thats being ignorant towards me. i don notice the work he does and it is not enough. if you look at a game properly anyone with a bit of sence can see hargreeves is poor. yes he was brought as a defensive midfielder but he does nothing. btw, i think macherano is extremely underated and is a lot better at what he does than hargreeves.

name one good game he has played add the fact we win a hell of a lot more games when he is not in the team.

[jd_united]

I would probably have to say Dong although I do not dislike him at all, just since the Coventry game I cannot see why he is even in our squad.

I never used to be Kieran Richardson's biggest fan. And then there was the era of Kleberson, Bellion, Djemba twins etc :rolleyes:

[Stephen]

ye zico people like you annoy me. just cause you say a holding midfielder is poor you come out with- you don't notice the work he does. thats being ignorant towards me. i don notice the work he does and it is not enough. if you look at a game properly anyone with a bit of sence can see hargreeves is poor. yes he was brought as a defensive midfielder but he does nothing. btw, i think macherano is extremely underated and is a lot better at what he does than hargreeves.

name one good game he has played add the fact we win a hell of a lot more games when he is not in the team.
I know what you are saying, but he isn't poor.

Does a lot of work and not being a regular after a long injury will affect your confidence.

Would play Carrick any day over him though.

[Keano4taoiseach]

I know what you are saying, but he isn't poor.

Does a lot of work and not being a regular after a long injury will affect your confidence.

Would play Carrick any day over him though.

Another player who is great when is confidence is high and when he has good players around him.

However, how many times have we seen him go missing in games or have no effect on games.

It's unbelievable.

[Stephen]

Like Hargreaves, he isn't a player which can take the ball around 50 men and smack it into the top corner. He drops back, puts his foot on the ball and either plays a defence splitting pass, and a short one to keep posession.

[-zuco-]

ye zico people like you annoy me. just cause you say a holding midfielder is poor you come out with- you don't notice the work he does. thats being ignorant towards me. i don notice the work he does and it is not enough. if you look at a game properly anyone with a bit of sence can see hargreeves is poor. yes he was brought as a defensive midfielder but he does nothing. btw, i think macherano is extremely underated and is a lot better at what he does than hargreeves.

name one good game he has played add the fact we win a hell of a lot more games when he is not in the team.

Firstly my name is zuco not zico ;)

Secondly, I'm not being ignorant towards you I'm simply stating my opinion.
Hargreaves made his debut in the City game at Eastlands this season and
put in a man of the match performance, to do that on your debut means you
have something special.

He was England's best player at the World Cup, he's been a mainstay in a
Bayern Munich midfield that included players of Michael Ballack's quality for many years and he has a Champions League medal in his trophy cabinet. What
more must a player do to be rated highly?

[The great dane]

mine would have to be Dong duh dong dong Dong...i dont dislike him though

[Jazz 16]

I dont dislike ANY United player.
Have to say I agree with Zuco's points on Hargo.
And Carly I agree with what you said about Ronnie but NOT what you
keep saying about Saha Grrrrrrr.
And Stephen-yes Carrick is quality. We have lots of quality midfielders.

[The_Red_Prince]

why would i hate any of the united players?Maybe Saha because of his injury prone disease?I never hate none of them at any time because i kno there are there to win games,have fun and bring glory to the United name.

[versa]

Now the word used in the title thread is "dislike", not the stronger "hate". I don't hate any player, now or before, but I also don't think there is anything wrong with disliking a certain player, even if he plays for us and we do sincerely wish him well to excel for us. Afterall, we didn't make the choice of buying him and it is just that we may honestly not fancy him or his style of play. So why bluff ourselves? Come on, let's start calling a spade a spade......

Ok, ok, let's also be sensitive and keep it to ourselves then if others are not comfortable. I used to dislike XXXXX XXXX (for his poor ball control and his constant giving away of the ball) etc and now XXXXX XXXXXXX (can't believe he is an international and yet so jittery) and XXXXX XXXX (when we needed him, he is not around yet again, what's new). Better?;)

About Hargreaves (again)...:(

Hargreaves is like Makelele once was to Real Madrid. He made no head turned because he does not glide like Zidane or keep banging in goals like Raul. Nobody gave a damn, nobody cared and nobody appreciated until..... he left them and coincidentally or not, Real Madrid lost their stranglehold on the league. Then in the post-mortem, suddenly there were loud murmurings about the unseen works of Makelele in breaking up attacks and winning the ball, of how they should not have let him go etc!!

Must an artist really not be around any more before his art is recognised?

[CROoney]

i'm not very big fan of brown...

[Ignatius]

I dont like Ji-sung park

[NoxiousD]

Nani has been showboating like hell, and his passing against pompey was atrocious, over 10 corners with nothing....

[NateR]

Excuses excuses :rolleyes:

Dong and Saha are two players we should get rid of in the summer.

Only problem is who would be silly enough to buy them? :confused:

Nucastle comes to mind.

I can't say i actually dislike any player. They play for us and should be given our support.
Although i can say, i've never been a big fan of Wes Brown or Fetcher. But that doesn't mean i hate them and don't appreciate how hard they work for us.

[reddwarf]

I would probably have to say Dong although I do not dislike him at all, just since the Cov entry game I cannot see why he is even in our squad.

I never used to be Kieran Richardson's biggest fan.

What he said.

[CROoney]

Nani has been showboating like hell, and his passing against pompey was atrocious, over 10 corners with nothing....
open your eyes and look beyond one match - his corners and passes got us more assists than giggsy's. oh and he's got more goals to his name too

[akash_reds]

i dont like silvestre and dong fangzhuo......

[RedForceRising]

I've been supporting Manchester United for 15 years now, since I was 14 (that's how young I am) and I can say that there are not many duds in the first team at the moment.

However, if I had to nominate players that I think are not doing enough to justify their salary, I would say:

Dong Fangzhuo
Mikel Silvestre
Louis Saha

Also, using this criteria of judgment, I would also put Rooney and Ronaldo on the list, because of their form. Having said that, they are world-class players and I wouldn't want them to ever leave.

Next up, there are some players that I think have peaked and just don't deserve a place in the squad and are in fact hindering the progress of younger players down the line:
Darren Fletcher and Wes Brown need to go.

Some of the players I really used to loathe:
Jordi Cruyff, Teddy Sheringham, Fabian Barthez, Massimo Tailbi, Mark Bosnich, Diego Forlan, Phil Neville, Kieran Richardson, Luke Chadwick, Jonathan Greening, Jesper Blomqvist (how did he ever merit a place in a Champions League final????)

So, if look at that last list, I think Ji-Sung Park is a pretty decent player.
Also Jaap Stam is my favourite defender of all time with Vidic a close second.

[Le Roi Cantona]

Ronaldo all day, every day.

Poser to the core, it's no wonder every other team in the EPL want to kick the bejasus out of him. Especially annoying when he sits on the floor sulking after failing to 'win' a free kick.

Yes I know without him we'd be struggling and I know I'll probably get battered for this post but hey, you asked.

There's no substitute for class and he aint got it.

[CROoney]

I've been supporting Manchester United for 15 years now, since I was 14 (that's how young I am) and I can say that there are not many duds in the first team at the moment.

However, if I had to nominate players that I think are not doing enough to justify their salary, I would say:

Dong Fangzhuo
Mikel Silvestre
Louis Saha

Also, using this criteria of judgment, I would also put Rooney and Ronaldo on the list, because of their form. Having said that, they are world-class players and I wouldn't want them to ever leave.

Next up, there are some players that I think have peaked and just don't deserve a place in the squad and are in fact hindering the progress of younger players down the line:
Darren Fletcher and Wes Brown need to go.

Some of the players I really used to loathe:
Jordi Cruyff, Teddy Sheringham, Fabian Barthez, Massimo Tailbi, Mark Bosnich, Diego Forlan, Phil Neville, Kieran Richardson, Luke Chadwick, Jonathan Greening, Jesper Blomqvist (how did he ever merit a place in a Champions League final????)

So, if look at that last list, I think Ji-Sung Park is a pretty decent player.
Also Jaap Stam is my favourite defender of all time with Vidic a close second.
you say you've " been following united " for 15 years , but have you actually been watching us recently...(year or so ) - coz i'm surprised of your arguments against brown and fletcher. i said that i'm not a big fan of brown, but to say that they are "hindering a proces of youger players" is ridiculous. flatcher 's been great lately in what he does ( DMF, and you should read mascherano's statement about DMF's ), and considering brown - do you think fergie would play him if we had someone younger and better

[yangch0000]

ronaldo
i dun like people sulking, just jump up and chase the ball down, be like a man. u dun win the ball back by sitting on the ground
i do not hate him, but just being irritated.

[Lucky7]

I Dont like Dong Fangzhuo.

[RedForceRising]

you say you've " been following united " for 15 years , but have you actually been watching us recently...(year or so ) - coz i'm surprised of your arguments against brown and fletcher. i said that i'm not a big fan of brown, but to say that they are "hindering a proces of youger players" is ridiculous. flatcher 's been great lately in what he does ( DMF, and you should read mascherano's statement about DMF's ), and considering brown - do you think fergie would play him if we had someone younger and better

Hi,

I have been following religiously.
I think I missed a total of three games last season and the only game I did not watch this season was the Carling Cup disaster vs Coventry, so I know what I am saying and would appreciate it, if you use the word "ridiculous' with caution.

Over the past several seasons Fletcher has not done nearly enough merit a place in the squad. This has been debated tirelessly on teamtalk ..... there are some fans with selective memories, but I am not one of them.

Even you have to admit that his form is not consistent, because you state that his form has been great LATELY. That is the exact point. Please tell me what he has done prior to the 7-1 thrashing of Roma and what he has done since.

I have had this debate several times and I think it boils down to how much ambition a fan has for Man Utd and how much sympathy he/she has. For others Fletcher is the best thing since sliced bread, but for me, I would carry him on foot to Sunderland, if Keano were to offer us the same as what he paid for Richardson.
GGMU

[CROoney]

ronaldo
i dun like people sulking, just jump up and chase the ball down, be like a man. u dun win the ball back by sitting on the ground
i do not hate him, but just being irritated.
lol - but maybe he's more concentrated on SCORING and dragging us to the title and let others do the tackling part. it's the same with fletcher - only vice versa - he does the nasty part - what people need to understand is that different players have different tasks

Hi,

I have been following religiously.
I think I missed a total of three games last season and the only game I did not watch this season was the Carling Cup disaster vs Coventry, so I know what I am saying and would appreciate it, if you use the word "ridiculous' with caution.

Over the past several seasons Fletcher has not done nearly enough merit a place in the squad. This has been debated tirelessly on teamtalk ..... there are some fans with selective memories, but I am not one of them.

Even you have to admit that his form is not consistent, because you state that his form has been great LATELY. That is the exact point. Please tell me what he has done prior to the 7-1 thrashing of Roma and what he has done since.

I have had this debate several times and I think it boils down to how much ambition a fan has for Man Utd and how much sympathy he/she has. For others Fletcher is the best thing since sliced bread, but for me, I would carry him on foot to Sunderland, if Keano were to offer us the same as what he paid for Richardson.
GGMU sorry for ridiculous part but for example - fletcher 's been great in big games ALWAYS - and the last season he was class whenever called upon. He's been voted as the most improved player on official united site for the last season , just after ronaldo. He doesn't score as often as Scholes or as Keano at their peak but he will sure as hell work his socks off and will do his task WHENEVER called upon. If you look at him as a playmaker or a goalscorer - there's nothing I can do really , coz I see him as a very good cmf ( dmf)

[eoininho]

None. Don't waste time hating one of your own.

If you boo any player in the shirt of MUFC then you are a disgrace.
if a player isn't pulling their weight and being selfish then of course we have the right to criticise him!! no point being blinded by supporting your team, i hate any fan who is blinded of s%*t performances due to the fact they follow a team... Liverpool fans seem to be major culprits of this!!

I used to hate rio, until he proved he was one of the best in the world on a regular occassion!

I'm still not convinced 100% with Nani but I'm hoping he'll continue his recent form and stops wasting posession and being selfish!

Never liked Sylvestre

I think Browns contract business is a disgrace

Carrick isn't in my opinion good enough for the club on a regular enough basis

I love Saha but the injuries are a joke!

[yangch0000]

lol - but maybe he's more concentrated on SCORING and dragging us to the title and let others do the tackling part. it's the same with fletcher - only vice versa - he does the nasty part - what people need to understand is that different players have different tasks

i am not ignoring his contribution to the team, but i am not really a fan of his attitude. i have to admit he is a brave lad for taking the responsibilities on his own shoulders and also take the criticism of any kind if he does not perform as well as expected, but his body language on pitch would not do himself or the team any good.

[versa]

I've been supporting Manchester United for 15 years now, since I was 14 (that's how young I am) and I can say that there are not many duds in the first team at the moment.

However, if I had to nominate players that I think are not doing enough to justify their salary, I would say:

Dong Fangzhuo
Mikel Silvestre
Louis Saha

Also, using this criteria of judgment, I would also put Rooney and Ronaldo on the list, because of their form. Having said that, they are world-class players and I wouldn't want them to ever leave.

Next up, there are some players that I think have peaked and just don't deserve a place in the squad and are in fact hindering the progress of younger players down the line:
Darren Fletcher and Wes Brown need to go.

Some of the players I really used to loathe:
Jordi Cruyff, Teddy Sheringham, Fabian Barthez, Massimo Tailbi, Mark Bosnich, Diego Forlan, Phil Neville, Kieran Richardson, Luke Chadwick, Jonathan Greening, Jesper Blomqvist (how did he ever merit a place in a Champions League final????)

So, if look at that last list, I think Ji-Sung Park is a pretty decent player.
Also Jaap Stam is my favourite defender of all time with Vidic a close second.

:eek: You are a brave soul indeed to list out so comprehensively. Actually I do share some of your list over time, though not so many in numbers. Lol.

I honestly don't think there is anything wrong to like the team but dislike one or two oddballs.

Looking at the other side of the coin, I remember growing up witnessing the great Liverpool team captained by Alan Hansen, dismantling opposition week in week out on TV. I did admire and was in awe of their play and some of the players like Steve Highway, David Johnson etc but never taken in to like the team despite what I saw. Instead, I still chose to stubbornly stick to United even though they were struggling then to keep up with Liverpool...

[eoininho]

Originally Posted by RedForceRising
Some of the players I really used to loathe:
Jordi Cruyff, Teddy Sheringham, Fabian Barthez, Massimo Tailbi, Mark Bosnich
Harsh including teddy on that list!!!!!

[NateR]

Hi,

I have been following religiously.
I think I missed a total of three games last season and the only game I did not watch this season was the Carling Cup disaster vs Coventry, so I know what I am saying and would appreciate it, if you use the word "ridiculous' with caution.

Over the past several seasons Fletcher has not done nearly enough merit a place in the squad. This has been debated tirelessly on teamtalk ..... there are some fans with selective memories, but I am not one of them.

Even you have to admit that his form is not consistent, because you state that his form has been great LATELY. That is the exact point. Please tell me what he has done prior to the 7-1 thrashing of Roma and what he has done since.

I have had this debate several times and I think it boils down to how much ambition a fan has for Man Utd and how much sympathy he/she has. For others Fletcher is the best thing since sliced bread, but for me, I would carry him on foot to Sunderland, if Keano were to offer us the same as what he paid for Richardson.
GGMU


You know that Gif of Nani you have in your sig, did happen to watch it and did you happen to catch how good Fletcher played? :rolleyes:

[Stephen]

if a player isn't pulling their weight and being selfish then of course we have the right to criticise him!! no point being blinded by supporting your team, i hate any fan who is blinded of s%*t performances due to the fact they follow a team... Liverpool fans seem to be major culprits of this!!

I used to hate rio, until he proved he was one of the best in the world on a regular occassion!

I'm still not convinced 100% with Nani but I'm hoping he'll continue his recent form and stops wasting posession and being selfish!

Never liked Sylvestre

I think Browns contract business is a disgrace

Carrick isn't in my opinion good enough for the club on a regular enough basis

I love Saha but the injuries are a joke!
Carrick contributed to us winning the league last season.

And, yes, every player deserves to criticised. But if ANYONE boos a player when they are on the field wearing the shirt of MUFC, then they are a disgrace.

NFT.

[chapperz]

I'm not a big fan of Silvestre or Saha. O'Shea is a good back-up and Fletcher contributes with some good performances.

[eoininho]

Carrick contributed to us winning the league last season.

And, yes, every player deserves to criticised. But if ANYONE boos a player when they are on the field wearing the shirt of MUFC, then they are a disgrace.

NFT.
I think Carrick is a good enough player... but we're trying to be the best club in the world... would Carrick get into the Milan, Barca, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, midfields... ???? I dont think he would.. i do agree he played well last year and was involved in us winning the league, but i dont think hes consistent enough to be a top player, and never an 18m player!

And no you should never boo your own player!!

[Keano!]

I like them all.......but if I had to hate one...........ehh...Silvestre

[Harvo]

Kuszczak...

[ManUtd08]

no comment for my man utd players lol

[Stephen]

no comment for my man utd players lol
Why spam?

If you have nothing to add to the discussion then don't post a reply. Seems like we have a tough job grooming you into place ;) :rolleyes:

[Keano4taoiseach]

Why spam?

If you have nothing to add to the discussion then don't post a reply. Seems like we have a tough job grooming you into place ;) :rolleyes:

I don't think he means to Stephen.

ManUtd08 - We would love to hear your opinions instead of just random posts of 3 or 4 words length.

But it's ok if you don't want to - No pressure!!!!

Enjoy :)

[RedForceRising]

Harsh including teddy on that list!!!!!

Many a fellow fan have tried to convince me that Teddy's equaliser against Bayern erased all his failings, but I don't think that is how you should judge a footballer. I mean is Ole a legend, because of that one single winning goal or because of the numerous ocassions he scored an incredibly vital goal?

In the 98 / 99 season Teddy I witnessed Keane and Scholes work their socks off to get the ball to him only for him to give it away cheaply, put his team mates under pressure and basically botch many a move that could have resulted in a goal.

The only time he could score was with Caprice! : )

Add to that Yorke and Cole were on fire an he just always paled in comparison for me.

[Red Devil]

my mate asked me this question the other day, and i was baffled, but there must be someone i dislike/inefficient in the squad:

i would have to say Mikael Silvestre, i'm totally fine with him, but if i have to come up with an answer, it's him. No long explanation needed. :D NONE; they all deserve our support.

[RedForceRising]

You know that Gif of Nani you have in your sig, did happen to watch it and did you happen to catch how good Fletcher played? :rolleyes:


Yes he played well against the arse in the FA cup. So did the whole team. Would anyone like to offer specifics in relation to Fletcher?

Statements like, he's ALWAYS brilliant went called up are firstly vague and secondly untrue.

I can name three maybe four games where I was not utterly irritated by Fletcher's inability to contribute to the flow of a move and/or complete a pass.

The guy is loyal and we need people LIKE him, but just not him. He could be a great asset, but I think he isn;t mentally strong enough and will not have the opportunity to develop it seeing that Carrick, Hargreaves, Anderson and Scholes are all infront of him. Not to mention Ronnie, Nani and Giggs.

[NoxiousD]

open your eyes and look beyond one match - his corners and passes got us more assists than giggsy's. oh and he's got more goals to his name too

His passing is poor more often than it should be, his pass completion is really bad for a winger...

And dont compare him to Giggsy, if goals mattered then Scholes and Anderson would be ****ed

[stretty]

save your energy and hate the scousers

[migueldadon]

save your energy and hate the scousers
amen:D

[antdevil78]

not hate but get frustrated by

John O'Shea as we have got rid of players much better than him. He has never lived up to the potential when younger but in terms of what he does do is that he is our utility player who can be stuck on anywhere

Fletcher although I think he could come good if given a good run in the side. Just unfortunate enough to be in a team where he will struggle to hold a first team place

[versa]

NONE; they all deserve our support.

Suspect you could be missing the point, though I can't fault you for being politically correct and yes, diplomatically nice.

Of course, every United player deserves our support and we will and should never boo them but it has nothing to do with our personal assessment or feelings towards him. On the flip side, some of us may actually like or admire Torres and wish he is our outright striker, combining flawlessly with Rooney/Tevez and scoring freely for us... But then again, that does not mean we support him or will scream our voices hoarse for him. Two separate issues.

Think that is what this thread is all about.

[Red Devil]

Suspect you could be missing the point, though I can't fault you for being politically correct and yes, diplomatically nice.

Of course, every United player deserves our support and we will and should never boo them but it has nothing to do with our personal assessment or feelings towards him. On the flip side, some of us may actually like or admire Torres and wish he is our outright striker, combining flawlessly with Rooney/Tevez and scoring freely for us... But then again, that does not mean we support him or will scream our voices hoarse for him. Two separate issues.

Think that is what this thread is all about.HOW DARE YOU!!! HOW DARE YOU say I am politically correct, hmmmmph!!! damned cheek!!!! :eek:

[versa]

HOW DARE YOU!!! HOW DARE YOU say I am politically correct, hmmmmph!!! damned cheek!!!! :eek:

:eek:

Old trick.. "divert" and conquer. :rolleyes: You are not getting away with it this time.;)

[sparkic]

For me it was Fletcher but anyone who scores vs Chelsea and 2 goals vs Arsenal I LOVE so yeah I took him off the list lol I had o'shea way before but after that cheeky lob vs Arsenal in the 4-2 win at Highbury and THAT goal vs Liver**** which shook da kop lmao I took him off the list of disliked players. At the moment there is no one but Silvestre would be the closest but I like him as he is good for squad depth.

[CROoney]

His passing is poor more often than it should be, his pass completion is really bad for a winger...

And dont compare him to Giggsy, if goals mattered then Scholes and Anderson would be ****ed
don't compare goals, don't compare assists, what should i compare then ?

[CROoney]

Yes he played well against the arse in the FA cup. So did the whole team. Would anyone like to offer specifics in relation to Fletcher?

Statements like, he's ALWAYS brilliant went called up are firstly vague and secondly untrue.

I can name three maybe four games where I was not utterly irritated by Fletcher's inability to contribute to the flow of a move and/or complete a pass.

The guy is loyal and we need people LIKE him, but just not him. He could be a great asset, but I think he isn;t mentally strong enough and will not have the opportunity to develop it seeing that Carrick, Hargreaves, Anderson and Scholes are all infront of him. Not to mention Ronnie, Nani and Giggs.
Ok - let me start - every single match against Liverpool, whenever played and no matter how many minutes , he did really good. Against Chelsea in that 1-0 win he was along with Smith MOTM.He was sliding,switching sides, keeping their midfield along with Smith in his back pocket plus scored a goal. Against Arsenal in last years' home defeat he was probably our best player with making some crucial tackles and great crosses, one of which resulted in ronaldo hitting lehman in the face from point blank. Furthermore against Roma at Old Trafford he put Totti in the back pocket and he was always helping Sheasy dealing with Mancini which often resulted in Mancini loosing possesion. against milan at san siro it is fair to say that he was our only players that was trying something when involved . and against Arsenal this season he wiped the floor off with the likes of cesc,gilberto etc... Now that was how i saw it. His contribution to the flow of the game has really improved also. Many times this season I saw him switching sides with great crosses, not to mention that he's worked on his positioning which resulted by being at the right spot at the right time this season. Give him a run of games and you'll see his contribution. He's not a great player, but a very good one indeed.Why do you think I've grown to like him ? Because of his preety face ? I like him because I rate good hard training to improve yourself. I was one of the ones who were against him few years ago - everything changed last season when he proved that he has the class to put some great players in the back pocket but lacks only consistency. And consistency comes with age. Remember that Zidane became THE Zidane at his late 20's . he was a good player before that but then he became officially Europe's best player in 50 years.
As I said - that is how I see it. You will probably not agree, but that doesn't mean that any of us is right

[CROoney]

i am not ignoring his contribution to the team, but i am not really a fan of his attitude. i have to admit he is a brave lad for taking the responsibilities on his own shoulders and also take the criticism of any kind if he does not perform as well as expected, but his body language on pitch would not do himself or the team any good.
fair enough - i see why you don't like his attitude. i'm not the greatest fan of his personality myself, nor was i becks' for being a pop star... i wouldn't have liked ronnie if he was at any other club

[RedForceRising]

Ok - let me start - every single match against Liverpool, whenever played and no matter how many minutes , he did really good. Against Chelsea in that 1-0 win he was along with Smith MOTM.He was sliding,switching sides, keeping their midfield along with Smith in his back pocket plus scored a goal. Against Arsenal in last years' home defeat he was probably our best player with making some crucial tackles and great crosses, one of which resulted in ronaldo hitting lehman in the face from point blank. Furthermore against Roma at Old Trafford he put Totti in the back pocket and he was always helping Sheasy dealing with Mancini which often resulted in Mancini loosing possesion. against milan at san siro it is fair to say that he was our only players that was trying something when involved . and against Arsenal this season he wiped the floor off with the likes of cesc,gilberto etc... Now that was how i saw it. His contribution to the flow of the game has really improved also. ...Give him a run of games and you'll see his contribution. He's not a great player, but a very good one indeed.Why do you think I've grown to like him ? .....
As I said - that is how I see it. You will probably not agree, but that doesn't mean that any of us is right

Hi again,

thanks for taking the time to reply to my "challenge". I counted your examples and here's the summary, the Liverpool matches, 2 Arsenal matches, Chelsea, Roma and you didn't write it, but I'd say he had a great against Lyon. I also vaguely remember a game against Charlton last season where he did really well.

But I mean... we're stretching ourselves to think of matches where he played well. It should be the other way around. We should be stretching ourselves to remember the games where he played poorly.

I agree that he has improved, but I can't even write the standards where he began or I'll get a wrist slap for being vulgar : )

As I said, its a matter of how much ambition one has for Man Utd and how much sympathy / affliction for certain players. I just wouldn't have Fletcher in my squad.

Than again, I don't manage a football team and thank God for that! : )

[CROoney]

Hi again,

thanks for taking the time to reply to my "challenge". I counted your examples and here's the summary, the Liverpool matches, 2 Arsenal matches, Chelsea, Roma and you didn't write it, but I'd say he had a great against Lyon. I also vaguely remember a game against Charlton last season where he did really well.

But I mean... we're stretching ourselves to think of matches where he played well. It should be the other way around. We should be stretching ourselves to remember the games where he played poorly.

I agree that he has improved, but I can't even write the standards where he began or I'll get a wrist slap for being vulgar : )

As I said, its a matter of how much ambition one has for Man Utd and how much sympathy / affliction for certain players. I just wouldn't have Fletcher in my squad.

Than again, I don't manage a football team and thank God for that! : )
lol at that "Thank God" part...and yes - we're streching oureselves to think of some matches where he was good, but then again that's the point - when he was challenging for the 1st team place he had to compete against the likes of keano and scholesy - not even veron managed to do that ffs ;)...he wasn't given a good run of games at the right time. now is the time . not 2-3 years ago... he was young back then maybe, maybe he was lacking selfconfidence because of the fact that he was constantly being outmuscled by keano and scholes at training,we don't know...maybe it was all that - but i admire his improvement - and a fact that he's a good player who never complaints and who is willing to step in and deliver whenever called upon ( especially against the big teams ) is what we should respect and admire. i hope we get to see more of that --- i think he's really matured and he can't go backwards - the only way is up for him - ! we should be thankfull of having such player(s) at the team ( sheasy ) - they're like representatives of an ordinary united fan who would do anything for 20 secs at OT pitch. Like ordinary blokes ! sure they don't have the talent but love for United is what keeps them in the club ! And I admire that !

[Red Devil]

don't compare goals, don't compare assists, what should i compare then ?Nobody in all truth. Everyone on the planet is different, even footballers surprise, surprise!

[manutd004]

I gotta say Brown.

I used to like him, but all this over the contract negotiations and that have really changed my opinions.

And people who dislike Fletcher and Hargeaves must be watching different players to me. It seems that most of the people in this thread are the minority of supporters left who still hate Fletcher for one reason or another.

[stretty]

I gotta say Brown.

I used to like him, but all this over the contract negotiations and that have really changed my opinions.

And people who dislike Fletcher and Hargeaves must be watching different players to me. It seems that most of the people in this thread are the minority of supporters left who still hate Fletcher for one reason or another.

wes brown , you have got to be joking he has had a great season, so much so we havnt missed gary neville.
what is wrong with wes wanting a bit more money to sign the rest of his days away at united, he is probably one of the lowest paid players at the club , but every bit as valuable , just pay the lad fergie he deserves it.