Should We ... ?

[carlyluvsunited]

Haggler made this thread ...

http://www.manutdtalk.com/forums/man-utd-chat/8565-dont-see-papers-do-you.html

Not many read it I guess and not many commented either - however it is the best
one we have had in a while because it highlights how lucky we are - and others
sometimes are not !!

I suggested in the thread that we could maybe link up with a charity on this
forum - and see if we can help them out in any way ...

Rather than just saying "OK we will do this......."

I feel it better to ask everyones views on this ....

Tell me if you think it is a good idea or not ...

I'll add a poll too ... :)

Don't just vote yes or no ...

Try and give us some ideas and plans on how to tackle this - or not - as the case
may be :eek:

[sparkic]

Yeah it sounds like a real good idea imo...Man United does heaps for charity and us fans should also take that example! Good work Haggler and Carly :)

[Keano!]

Yea! Why not?

If this means that a particular charity will be earning some needed money and we are growing in size then everybodys a winner surely!

I think its a great idea personally. What charity did you have in mind?

This could be a huge leap for ManUtd Talks future standing.

100% behind it! ;)

[-zuco-]

Great idea :)

To make a donation please visit www.zucosbeerfund.com ;)

[Keano!]

Great idea :)

To make a donation please visit www.zucosbeerfund.com ;)

lmao......nice try zucs, but I think Carly and co. will have a few better charities in
mind before they look upon your alcoholic wants! ;)

[akash_reds]

great idea and im all for it!!!!!

[spellbound]

Dont you do any charity yourselves? I mean "off forum" in the REAL life.
I dont say the idea is a bad one but why not start doing something by yourselves and not rely on someone else!?

[fazman]

[QUOTE=carlyluvsunited]Haggler made this thread ...

http://www.manutdtalk.com/forums/man-utd-chat/8565-dont-see-papers-do-you.html

Not many read it I guess and not many commented either - however it is the best
one we have had in a while because it highlights how lucky we are - and others
sometimes are not !!

I suggested in the thread that we could maybe link up with a charity on this
forum - and see if we can help them out in any way ...

Rather than just saying "OK we will do this......."

I feel it better to ask everyones views on this ....

Tell me if you think it is a good idea or not ...

carly you must be a nice person always putting others into your thoughts its good idea so go for it. There many good charities out there id sway mainly to charietys that support children or cancer victims all of which need our help. Ive noticed people offering advertisment on the site so maybe some free ads or links would help.;) ;) ;) ;) ;



fully supported by fazman xx

[burnzy1987]

yes yes yes

[abojodeh]

nice thougt

[Keano4taoiseach]

Surely it can only be a good idea. I vote 'Yes'. :)

[-zuco-]

Who voted no? :confused:

[Keano4taoiseach]

Who voted no? :confused:
I was going to ask that but I suppose everyone is entitled to their own opinion. This is a democracy afterall.
Strange though.

[RichardsReds]

for what charity?

[Jazz 16]

great idea. We should pick a charity that we all agree on.
hagglers one sounds good to me.

[haggler]

i just give em a fiver a month as i saw what they do through mates kid . i am not a tin rattler but if you felt like giving they make some very ill kids last days a bit happier which cant be a bad thing . i gave up lottery as it used to depress me every week so the 2 quid a week just goes to charity i choose instead

[spellbound]

I sponsor a child in South America to give an education and some toys. I also give money for a childrens village in Africa.

Sponsor a child you too. Its only £20/month and you can do it online.
http://www.soschildrensvillages.org.uk/children-charity.htm

[carlyluvsunited]

Dont you do any charity yourselves? I mean "off forum" in
the REAL life.

I dont say the idea is a bad one but why not start doing something by
yourselves and not rely on someone else!?

They may or may not do some charity things themselves ...

If not - then I am hoping to provide a route for them to follow and hopefully 'make
a difference'.

carly you must be a nice person always putting others into your
thoughts its good idea so go for it. There many good charities out there id sway
mainly to charietys that support children or cancer victims all of which need our
help. Ive noticed people offering advertisment on the site so maybe some free
ads or links would help.;) ;) ;



fully supported by fazman xx

I am more interested in choosing a charity that deals with children ...

Does it have to be UK ... :confused:

I would like it to go to some of the poor little children stuck in orphanages in my
country - Romania - despite the Government PROMISNG they would sort this
problem out !!!!

Child Sponsorship is a good way to be involved in this kind of thing ...

http://www.fastcharity.ro/eveniment.php?limba=2&id_eveniment=8

There is another set of guys doing so much good work too ...

I come from Zizin in Trannsylvania and here's what they did in my area :)

http://www.cleafordchristiantrust.org.uk/schools.html

[Red Devil]

Great idea :)

To make a donation please visit www.zucosbeerfund.com (http://www.zucosbeerfund.com) ;)sod that, my email address is also my paypal donation site!!

Carly says you're a miserable git ... :o

[carlyluvsunited]

sod that, my email address is also my paypal donation site!!

Carly says you're a miserable git ... :oDon't know - what's happening

[SALFORD RED]

I think it would be a great idea if this forum were linked to a charity.
Whenyouwishuponastar mentioned by haggler is great and i would back
that choice as i already donate to that. ( along with a few others).

I totally agree with Carly about choosing a charity that deals with children,
and agree that it doesn't have to be a UK based Charity.
There are millions of children suffering and dying every year around the world.

Having friends who are closely involved in UNICEF i get to know some of
the horrific things that happen to children and as a parent it really hurts.

I think UNICEF would be more suitable because it gives aid to children
worldwide wherever it is needed.
http://www.unicef.org/

I think if it was an International Charity rather than just one country more
members/visitors would be more interested/ inclined to help.

.

[Red Devil]

The only charities I give to are animal.

[carlyluvsunited]

So far ...

We have 3 charities mentioned ...

I would like anyone who has a charity in mind to leave the name and link for it on
this thread - then we will have a poll on it ... :)

Sal with UNICEF - they provide care and help for childen in peril all around the
world.

Me with The Cleaford Christian Trust - they send so much cash, supplies,
equipment, medicines etc etc to my country - we appreciate it too.

Me again with FAST = Fundatia pentru Asistenta Sociala le Tinoret = The
Foundation For Social Assistance and Youth ... :)

These guys build houses for the Roma communities of Tarlungeni and Zizin. As well as providing help and safety for the children who are victims of
abuse ... :eek:

[Red Devil]

United is heavily involved with UNICEF too

[carlyluvsunited]

United is heavily involved with UNICEF tooUNICEF has millions of pounds too ... :)

But my guys don't ... :(

They have to fight just to scramble £1000 together for windows in just one of the houses they build ... :o

[SALFORD RED]

Dont forget the charity haggler said in the first place.
Whenyouwishuponastar.

UNICEF also send monetary aid, supplies,
equipment, medicines, build houses, send
hospital equipment/staff, provide rescue aid,
provide aid to children who are the victims of abuse,
rape, murder, mass slaughter, genocide,
famine, drought, floods etc to every country in
the world.

I'm not promoting UNICEF (could be any recognised International Charity)
but i feel it should be an International Charity helping children worldwide rather than just one country.
.

[carlyluvsunited]

Dont forget the charity haggler said in the first place.
Whenyouwishuponastar.

UNICEF also send monetary aid, supplies,
equipment, medicines, build houses, send
hospital equipment/staff, provide rescue aid,
provide aid to children who are the victims of abuse,
rape, murder, mass slaughter, genocide,
famine, drought, floods etc to every country in
the world.

I'm not promoting UNICEF (could be any recognised International Charity)
but i feel it should be an International Charity helping children worldwide rather than just one country.
.
..... :(

Well you cant blame me for trying ... ;)

Would have made me very happy to have the forum and 'FAST' linked !!

:o

[versa]

For both humanity reason and exposure of this forum, I am fully in support of this wonderful idea of Carly.:)

However, I am adamant and feel strongly that it is most imperative the charity organisation of our choice must be an international one.

Our forum is multi-national, multi-racial and multi-religious, and every country has its poor and unfortunate. Even in US, the largest economy in the world, there are many people homeless, living in the streets, terminally ill but financially broke, abandoned orphans etc. To link our forum to any particular country's charity organisation and just benefitting that country's unfortunate is obviously not proper or fair to all members concerned. For example, I am sure Akash knows of some geniune charity organisations in India that is desperate for funds, so does RussianArmy for Russia's, Abo for Jordan's etc. The list runs endless.

In addition, the charity organisation that we are going to be eventually linked to must also be reputable and well known amongst majority of the members. Furthermore, linking up our forum with some unknown or lesser known organisations does not do much for our exposure in reality.

So in the postings so far, think UNICEF is one good candidate definitely. At least, the beneficiaries are not limited to any particular country, race or religion. Of course, it is not exclusive. Members can suggest other charity organisations but it must be international and reputable, with its beneficiaries being multi-national. Fair and square, nothing untowards or biased.:)

[carlyluvsunited]

I have another good benefit for my guys - a last ditch attempt to get the money
for them ... :o

All these big International charities take sometimes as much as 35% of donations
of cash to pay for wages, advertising etc etc ... :eek:

100% of the money should go to the children - like my guys do ... ;)

[haggler]

after reading all these threads the point about this being a worldwide forum stands out so if it was a case of the forum being linked to one unicef does indeed make most sense . as i said originally post was about good things utd were doing not a tin rattle but if forum can link then why not . there are zillions of worthy causes about and individuals obviously pick ones they feel strongly about so i am not championing one over another .

if one person reading the post decides to chuck a few quid a year to help others that they may have spent on another pint or game for the console then its all gravy isnt it ? now i must post something offensive to all to keep my reputation .

[versa]

United is heavily involved with UNICEF too

If so, then it is only logical that we link up with UNICEF too. MUFC supports UNICEF, so does ManUtdTalk Forum (the best forum for United fans) ... From a marketing angle, it makes perfect sense and a natural tag-on to distinguish ourselves from other United forums.

Besides, I have to reiterate that there is no yardstick to measure which group is less fortunate, more needy or in a more dire state than others. A neutral international organisation like UNICEF (for example only) would be most fair and ideal.

As for us, as long as we know we have played our part and contributed to charity, as in generic, it is good enough.

[carlyluvsunited]

If so, then it is only logical that we link up with UNICEF too. MUFC supports
UNICEF, so does ManUtdTalk Forum (the best forum for United fans) ... From a
marketing angle, it makes perfect sense and a natural tag-on to distinguish
ourselves from other United forums.

This talk of natural add ons - and of "the best marketting angle" etc etc .....

This is no good ...

I wanted to do this for the children - nobody else - just the children ... :o

We dont need to use the kids to generate traffic on our site ... ;)

I really have a problem using someone like UNICEF or Oxfam ...

They are a huge unbrella ella ellla which disguises many, many charities and good will projects.

Our link up must be to a charity obviously involved in child welfare - and if possible
ONLY CHILD WELFARE.

Which would lead us back to Hagglers first post and
the "Whenyouwishuponastar" charity organisation.

These guys seem dedicated to children - it is the main aim of their charity - to
improve the quality of life for children - and it's a magical thing to do ...

So this is my stance now, lol....

Sal is okie dokie with it if you check back ...

Haggler too ... :)

[fazman]

This talk of natural add ons - and of "the best marketting angle" etc etc .....

This is no good ...

I wanted to do this for the children - nobody else - just the children ... :o

We dont need to use the kids to generate traffic on our site ... ;)

I really have a problem using someone like UNICEF or Oxfam ...

They are a huge unbrella ella ellla which disguises many, many charities and good will projects.

Our link up must be to a charity obviously involved in child welfare - and if possible
ONLY CHILD WELFARE.

Which would lead us back to Hagglers first post and
the "Whenyouwishuponastar" charity organisation.

These guys seem dedicated to children - it is the main aim of their charity - to
improve the quality of life for children - and it's a magical thing to do ...

So this is my stance now, lol....

Sal is okie dokie with it if you check back ...

Haggler too ... :)



you did want peoples opinions and thats what they have given fair enough you dont want to use a major charity but people dont now that so i dont think people are missing the point .

[carlyluvsunited]

you did want peoples opinions and thats what they have given fair enough you
dont want to use a major charity but people dont now that so i dont think people
are missing the point .;)

To be honest I have never seen anything like this done before ...

So I too am guessing and making decisions as I go ... ;)

If everyone - or as many people as possible - say what they think then we will
have the decision of the 'forum' and not me or any other individual ... :)

[-zuco-]

The poll should now be changed.

List a few charities named through the thread and allow the
members to vote for whichever they want. Democracy FTW :p

[fazman]

;)

To be honest I have never seen anything like this done before ...

So I too am guessing and making decisions as I go ... ;)

If everyone - or as many people as possible - say what they think then we will
have the decision of the 'forum' and not me or any other individual ... :)


This would be a major discion and there are many needy charitys out there it would be very difficult to achieve .

[carlyluvsunited]

;) This would be a major discion and there are many needy charitys out there it would be very difficult to achieve .I personally feel if we chose the charity that was at the start of this thread - that would be fair ... :)

[versa]

This talk of natural add ons - and of "the best marketting angle" etc etc .....

This is no good ...

I wanted to do this for the children - nobody else - just the children ...

We dont need to use the kids to generate traffic on our site ...

I really have a problem using someone like UNICEF or Oxfam ...

They are a huge unbrella ella ellla which disguises many, many charities and good will projects.

Our link up must be to a charity obviously involved in child welfare - and if possible
ONLY CHILD WELFARE.

Which would lead us back to Hagglers first post and
the "Whenyouwishuponastar" charity organisation.

These guys seem dedicated to children - it is the main aim of their charity - to
improve the quality of life for children - and it's a magical thing to do ...

So this is my stance now, lol....

Sal is okie dokie with it if you check back ...

Haggler too ...

I don't understand.... :(

Doesn't the thread read "... to try and raise awareness"? But if there is nothing for the forum, why involved the whole forum in the first place? What is the purpose then? :confused: Each individual member, like your kindself, can still continue to do charity separately on their own; quietly as usual. :)

And why only children? Why not consider other unfortunate possibilities too? Does everybody else agree with this group? :confused:

[abojodeh]

Why Not

[versa]

;) I personally feel if we chose the charity that was at the start of this thread - that would be fair ...

And just choosing first mentioned charity would be fair?:confused:

Don't get me wrong. What I meant is it can't be the automatic rule to apply here to decide on the charity organisation that we will link up with.

[cjl_safcfan]

simple way to choose a charity would be a vote wouldnt it?
or maybe one united is closely linked with

[SALFORD RED]

A couple of others to think about maybe.
May appeal more as they have a United connection.

Goerge Best Foundation http://www.georgebest.com/

Danny Wallace Foundation http://www.dannywallacefoundation.co.uk/
.

[Keano!]

Got these charities off the United website.

Seems like these are their main charities.


PREFERRED

UNICEF: 1072612
Christie?s: 1049751
Cystic Fibrosis Trust: 1079049
Francis House: 328659
Rainbow House: 1097572
The Children?s Society: 221124
New Children?s Hospital Appeal: 1049274
Princes Trust Charity Number: 1079675


NATIONAL

Comic Relief Red Nose Day: 326568
BBC Children In Need: 802052
Jeans for Genes: 1003425, 1062206
Macmillan World?s Biggest Coffee Morning: 261017



Just a few ideas.


Should we help out organisations that are are being helped by the focal point
of this forum?

Or should we help a lesser known charity?

[versa]

A couple of others to think about maybe.
May appeal more as they have a United connection.

Goerge Best Foundation http://www.georgebest.com/

Danny Wallace Foundation http://www.dannywallacefoundation.co.uk/
.

Great idea!! If we can consider UNICEF, why not some ex-player's foundation? More relevant and meaningful. :) :cool:

[futbol]

not practical.

[versa]

Should we help out organisations that are are being helped by the focal point
of this forum?

Or should we help a lesser known charity?
[/LIST]

Think the first option is better. More relevant and meaningful.