Amazing Anderson Article

[sparkic]

My mate sent me this article on him which he got off a fourm. I knew some of the things written on him but still this article blew me away!

Anderson has no fear - on the field or in life

Ferguson's brilliant Brazilian is exemplary in his touch, exquisite in his passing and a young man ahead of his time. Duncan Castles meets him.

Sunday March 30, 2008
The Observer

Sir Alex Ferguson was not amused with the gentleman of the Fourth Estate. The focus of his ire that August afternoon: an obsession with Carlos Tévez to the silent discomfort of the other South American at Manchester United's joint unveiling. 'The lad's come all the way here to speak to youse lot, has nobody got a question for him?' chided Ferguson, though still there was little interest in Tévez's stocky Brazilian sidekick.

If Anderson Luís de Abreu Oliveira was the clear reserve that day, an expensive teenager who had played a handful of senior games before Ferguson's summer shop in Portugal, he is first choice today. Now he is simply Anderson - prospective Young Player of the Year, favoured over Paul Scholes in key Champions League ties, the 'class with a brass, who ****s on Fábregas', according to his Old Trafford paean.

United fans are as prudent with their vocal favours as they are inventive with the lyrics; mere kids generally have to wait. Anderson, though, is a footballer to go head over heels for. Nineteen, with the decision-making, position-taking intelligence of a 30-year-old. Short at 1.76m, yet muscular, balanced, and rapid enough to win most physical battles. Exquisite in his control, visionary in his passing. And as self-confident as they come.

'Scared? I've never been scared of anything,' says Anderson. 'And when the subject is playing football I'm not scared of anyone. In football you can't be scared. You are there for the football; you are there to have fun, to play.'

And to win. As of yesterday morning Anderson had taken the field in just 78 senior club games, yet his haul of medals is greater than most retiring pros. There are two Portuguese League titles and two Portuguese Cups to show for his two seasons at Porto, a Brazilian second division title for his one season in Gremio's first team; the Copa América from his only full-international tournament; the South American Under-17 title; and a runners-up medal at the Under-17 World Championship. Injured in the opening minutes of the final, he followed Cesc Fábregas in being named the junior World Cup's outstanding player.

So talented is Anderson that Porto signed him up before he had travelled to that 2005 tournament in Peru, striking a deal with the agent Jorge Mendes jointly to buy the player's registration for €8million (£6.3m). After his arrival in northern Portugal that December, his coach at Porto deliberately kept him out of the first team. Realising that once Europe's more moneyed clubs watched the midfielder play they would covet him, Co Adriaanse pragmatically elected to hide Anderson away to ensure one full season with him in his side.

Type the Portuguese phrase Batalha dos Aflitos into YouTube and you will see why Anderson holds hero status at his only Brazilian club, despite spending less than a season in Gremio's first XI. As its moniker suggests, his final match for the Porto Alegre side was a battle, a promotion play-off at Nautico in which Grêmio needed to avoid defeat to return to Brazil's top flight.

The visitors are already down to 10 men with half an hour to play when a penalty is awarded against them. Three more of their number are sent off for protesting against the referee's decision as defeat appears to become inevitable. Yet with Nautico's players bent in prayer, the penalty is saved, allowing Anderson to gather possession from the subsequent corner.

The playmaker accelerates forward from the edge of Grêmio's area, exchanging a one-two with his sole supporting team-mate before drawing an ugly foul two-thirds of the way up the left wing. The free-kick is taken swiftly, Anderson cutting into Nautico's box and across the bows of two defenders before screwing the ball back past the opposition goalkeeper. 'Inacreditável,' screams the commentator. Incredible, indeed. Nautico are broken, the match finishes 1-0, and Anderson flies back to the south, brandishing a Gremio flag in the airplane's ****pit in a conscious copy of Brazil's 2002 World Cup return.

'I was living the moment as Ronaldo did when he won the fifth World Cup,' recalls Anderson. 'I had also imagined it, waving a small Gremio flag on the plane's window. It was the best match of my life. I'd been unhappy because of the injury that took me out of the World Cup, I was only about 60 per cent fit and we had that critical match. My team-mates truly had faith in me and told me I was going to score the goal which would make us win. Still recovering from my injury, I'd looked at them and said to myself, "These guys are crazy, they are insane".'

There are less flattering parallels with Ronaldo. Used to a national team who almost uniformly treat them with tolerant openness, Brazilian journalists describe Anderson as mascarado: arrogant in attitude in a manner unmerited by his status. Last week he rolled up to the team's London hotel in a heavily customised Audi R9, R&B blaring from the sound system, designer threads on his back as he strode past reporters.

He tells a good story of the battalion of agents attempting to secure his signature as the star of Porto Alegre local youth leagues, and is brazenly honest in his attitude to cash. 'I was 12 or 13 years old,' he says. 'This guy asked if we could talk and I said yes. Then he said, "I give you everything you want; I give you whatever you choose". "Is that right?" I answered. "You really give everything I want? OK then, I want $13 million tomorrow in my bank account and I sign with you". He stared at me, asked if I was being serious. I said I was and he turned his back and left. Yes, I like money a lot. Who doesn't?'

There is, though, good reason for such materialism. Anderson's father died in 2001 and by the age of 14 his Gremio youth-team salary supported his mother, sister and two brothers. 'It was not entirely a bread-winning issue, but helping the family,' he says. 'I became used to being a man very young. I was 15, but already thinking as if I was 22, 23 or 24 and making very tough decisions about my future. I had to help the family, but that was also a responsibility I assumed before myself. And that I still do today and hope to be able to do for my family until I am 60.

'Football helped me out in my life. I can tell you that from my first group of friends, only two or three are still alive. All the others passed away, mostly from drug addiction or being involved in drug dealing. I took the path of joy and happiness, instead of a life of drugs and becoming one more addicted, jailed dealer or thief.'

United billeted the former street kid and fellow Portuguese Liga acquisition Nani with Cristiano Ronaldo for their first month in England. Though he now has a house of his own, Anderson's family have remained in Porto. Instead the teenager lives with his 'second mother', Mendes's employee Manuela Brandao, a former national newspaper journalist in Portugal. 'He's my little boy,' says Brandao. 'When he came to Porto he was only 17, just a kid. Jorge told me I had to look after him like a little son, so now I stay with him in England.' As is his habit with his most valued clients (including Ronaldo and Nani), Mendes makes regular house visits.

Ferguson loves him, describing Anderson as 'a big-game player', touting him for Young Player of the Year honours, and justifying his €30m transfer as one that needed to be done swiftly before he matured into one of the world's best footballers. The Scot has also added a new position to a range that already included No10, winger and left-back, by giving Anderson the majority of his games as a defensive midfielder - albeit an unusually creative one.

'If Anderson stays where he is, he can be fantastic,' says another Brazil midfielder, Gilberto Silva. 'He makes the difference because he can score goals and come back to mark. He has a good technique and so much pace in his game. It's not that easy for a Brazilian to adapt to English football in the first season, but he's done it already - and in a new position.'

Anderson merely emphasises the learning process, arguing that it will be another six or seven years before he becomes 'a great, professional player'. As the commentator said, inacreditável.

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Thoughts people? If he wrote a autobiography, it would be a bestseller imo!

Here is a link to the vid they were talking about: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ftiEqtHjzPI&feature=related (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ftiEqtHjzPI&feature=related)

And this is a vid of Anderson vs Aston Villa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YLC5I3orto (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YLC5I3orto)

[Drew9]

what a man ! united legend to be, i think he'll start tomorrow night aswell :D

[juraimy]

What a fantastic story about Anderson....I knew this kid will be great and infact he already showed to SAF. He definitely will be a Red Devil Legend one day. The story is exactly the same as told by our new members Vicente aka "Brazilian_BFR"

P.S Looking forward for his first goal for United....:)

[red_devils4life]

Hey Sparkic, isn't this from RedCafe too...looks like ue love to copy the threads from there huh? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[versa]

Hey Sparkic, isn't this from RedCafe too...looks like ue love to copy the threads from there huh?

Don't say "copy"; say "share".:)

I am not a member from RedCafe but I want to read it too. Who cares about the source of the source?;)

[red_devils4life]

At the very least he should quote the source where he's discovered the article from. It's only respectful when everytime someone post an article from a foreign site & accredit the writer of the specific article & not instead, claim credit for it ;)

[versa]

At the very least he should quote the source where he's discovered the article from. It's only respectful when everytime someone post an article from a foreign site & accredit the writer of the specific article & not instead, claim credit for it ;)

He is innocent..... The Observer, 30th March 2008 and..... a Sunday.:)


Quote:

My mate sent me this article on him which he got off a fourm. I knew some of the things written on him but still this article blew me away!

Anderson has no fear - on the field or in life

Ferguson's brilliant Brazilian is exemplary in his touch, exquisite in his passing and a young man ahead of his time. Duncan Castles meets him.

Sunday March 30, 2008
The Observer

[RedForceRising]

At the very least he should quote the source where he's discovered the article from. It's only respectful when everytime someone post an article from a foreign site & accredit the writer of the specific article & not instead, claim credit for it ;)

You gotta start reading ....

the article states at the top
Sunday March 30, 2008
The Observer

What else do you want him to do? Who cares which site he got it from?

And how did he claim credit for it?



Sparkic - excellent post mate. Thanks for sharing and caring : )

Thanks for the link too and don't you dare let geeky smart alecs deter you from posting anything.

You tha man! : )

[red_devils4life]

You gotta start reading ....

the article states at the top
Sunday March 30, 2008
The Observer

What else do you want him to do? Who cares which site he got it from?

And how did he claim credit for it?

Sparkic - excellent post mate. Thanks for sharing and caring : )

Thanks for the link too and don't you dare let geeky smart alecs deter you from posting anything.

You tha man! : )

Well, you do know that all of the threads which were started by him were from another forum right? It's not very nice to duplicate totally identical threads from another different fans forum ;)

Yeap, and I'm truly ashamed of those geeky smart alecs who loves goin' around, slating other people off at the forums. :)

[CROoney]

hm...just saw the link Batalha dos Aflitos ---the way i see it - he exaggerated to get player sent off ( mind the "pause" in his suffering in which he looks at the ref to see if he'll show the red ), then he immediately lifted himself up and ran into a counter attack...but hey - i'm all for that :p

[futbol]

Its is an amazing Article !

[moondog]

Great article, the kid (er, sorry - man) is an absolute keeper!

...and an unbelievable video! If you haven't watched it, enjoy! I think I'll keeper this one...

Thanks Sparkic

[RedForceRising]

Well, you do know that all of the threads which were started by him were from another forum right? It's not very nice to duplicate totally identical threads from another different fans forum ;)

Yeap, and I'm truly ashamed of those geeky smart alecs who loves goin' around, slating other people off at the forums. :)

Why is it not nice and more importantly what kind of person would care if he got it from another forum?

Maybe I'm too old, but since when has street cred moved into cyber space? We're all lifting information from somewhere else.

If you;re so worried about accrediting original sources, please do so the next time you quote a stat..... sheesh.

[pass_me_a_rizla]

Fair play to the guy. Demanding 13m us $ from an agent. lol. That goal for Gerimo sounds incredible.. can anyone do a youtube for it? To support his family from such a young age build any boys character. that's the special thing about humans; they can adapt to any situation at any age. he's got a big heart from this, GBh :). "Of course i love money, who doesn't?". Supportsd his family and busses ot in a pimped out AUdi R9.. i like him already. lol

[red_devils4life]

Why is it not nice and more importantly what kind of person would care if he got it from another forum?

Maybe I'm too old, but since when has street cred moved into cyber space? We're all lifting information from somewhere else.

If you;re so worried about accrediting original sources, please do so the next time you quote a stat..... sheesh.

Well, if everybody over here juz' sees one article in which he/she is rather interested in & then starts creating irrevelant threads over that particular topic, this forum will be an utter chaos. I could easily create over a hundred threads daily in that way. ;) It doesn't considered spamming right?

And for stats you see...ue can find it easily over any other sites in the whole internet explorer, so there's not a need to quote the source. However, that matter of fact doesn't apply on a sports article which one author puts in their effort, got their rights to be published over a specific site then let the viewers read it.

[fazman]

amazing talent in a amazing team he and nani now they couldnt be at a better club

[sparkic]

You gotta start reading ....

the article states at the top
Sunday March 30, 2008
The Observer

What else do you want him to do? Who cares which site he got it from?

And how did he claim credit for it?



Sparkic - excellent post mate. Thanks for sharing and caring : )

Thanks for the link too and don't you dare let geeky smart alecs deter you from posting anything.

You tha man! : )

Thank you so much RedForce and Versa for defending me! Much appreciated :)

[sparkic]

Well, you do know that all of the threads which were started by him were from another forum right? It's not very nice to duplicate totally identical threads from another different fans forum ;)

Yeap, and I'm truly ashamed of those geeky smart alecs who loves goin' around, slating other people off at the forums. :)

EXCUSE ME? ALL MY THREADS? Are you retarted or what kid? Seriously go get a life will ya? You talk before even checking. And are you by any chance blind? I do sometimes get articles for my threads because it is an interesting article which I would like to share or get opinions of people on here and I do source them like the ones I got from tribalfootball and so on.

And I did say were I got the article from you fool. One of my best mates is a admin/mod for a very top Polish Man United fourm and he gives me awsome links and email's me awsome articles like this one and I did state that. How do you know were your beloved redcafe got it from? So your saying every single thing that goes up on that fourm is wrriten by themselves? So this so called person who started the thread over there writes for the observer?

Sorry for sharing interesting reads people. Sorry I did not know there is this invisible rule where when something appears on a fourm and it must stay on there and no one else can share them for other United fans to read. I am sorry for making red_devils have a cry about it all. :(

Are you sure your not a pool fan in disguise?

[RedForceRising]

Amen to that!

Anyways Sparkic, that article is probably the best thing I've read on this forum so far, so please keep sharing any interesting reads, mate!

[CarlitoTevez]

Good Read :)

The boy has clearly got potential... Just needs to score a few... Do you think he will score at all this season?

He could turn out to be a Very good player... Have you seen this piece of skill he does?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lrVM7ae3BRc

When will he try it for us? :(

[versa]

Sorry for sharing interesting reads people. Sorry I did not know there is this invisible rule where when something appears on a fourm and it must stay on there and no one else can share them for other United fans to read. I am sorry for making red_devils have a cry about it all. :(

Calm down, young man, wrong, men. :)

You did nothing wrong in this case because you did quote the source unambigiously. And it was pretty obvious it was a misunderstanding from the start because RD4L just happened to miss that unintentionally.

As for articles from other forums or websites, I personally would like to read any related articles that are interesting or informative; which forum eg redcafe.com or website eg goal.com is really secondary and immaterial.

A slight point in question, however, which I can only speak for myself, is that I would prefer the source be quoted. Not every member agrees to that anyway. But no matter. Not anything significant or consequential; just personal preference or a slight different view of things.

[NoxiousD]

brilliant talent

[sparkic]

Calm down, young man, wrong, men. :)

You did nothing wrong in this case because you did quote the source unambigiously. And it was pretty obvious it was a misunderstanding from the start because RD4L just happened to miss that unintentionally.

As for articles from other forums or websites, I personally would like to read any related articles that are interesting or informative; which forum eg redcafe.com or website eg goal.com is really secondary and immaterial.

A slight point in question, however, which I can only speak for myself, is that I would prefer the source be quoted. Not every member agrees to that anyway. But no matter. Not anything significant or consequential; just personal preference or a slight different view of things.

Thanks for calming me down mate..Unfortunatley it was not unintentional from RD4L. He has accused me of it before when it was NOT the case and he does it again here. He accused me off having all my threads copied from RedCafe.net which I swear to God is a false fabricated allegation by RD4L. I really get ****ed when fools like him lie and try to put me down for no reason.

[NateR]

Good Read :)

The boy has clearly got potential... Just needs to score a few... Do you think he will score at all this season?

He could turn out to be a Very good player... Have you seen this piece of skill he does?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lrVM7ae3BRc

When will he try it for us? :(

:eek: That was awesome. I'm sure he'll try it eventually. I'd love to see just what kinda tricks he is capable of.
Great article too. Best one i've read on Anderson. Thanks for posting sparkic

[Jazz 16]

Thanks for calming me down mate..Unfortunatley it was not unintentional from RD4L. He has accused me of it before when it was NOT the case and he does it again here. He accused me off having all my threads copied from RedCafe.net which I swear to God is a false fabricated allegation by RD4L. I really get ****ed when fools like him lie and try to put me down for no reason.


Calm Down, Calm Down, Arite?
http://www.drinkstuff.com/productimg/2977.jpg

Cheers for the article by the way, decent read.

[red_devils4life]

Thanks for calming me down mate..Unfortunatley it was not unintentional from RD4L. He has accused me of it before when it was NOT the case and he does it again here. He accused me off having all my threads copied from RedCafe.net which I swear to God is a false fabricated allegation by RD4L. I really get ****ed when fools like him lie and try to put me down for no reason.

I'm truly ashamed that you actually resort to disgraceful name-callings! http://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/grayno.gifhttp://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/grayno.gifhttp://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/grayno.gif
I thot that only bloody, ill-bred Scousers will resort to dirty name-callings, however looks like I'm wrong though. You'd be better off supporting the likes of £helski, Le'Arse or even worse, BinDippers! http://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/oops.gif

FFS, don't tell me that it's all pure coincidences that RedCafe.net also posted those totally identical threads which you've duplicated over here. Take a look at the timing of when's the article created in RedCafe.net compare to those of yours over here.

And here's the link for the 'Amazing Anderson Article': http://www.redcafe.net/f6/anderson-article-193981/
The thread on Romario retiring: http://www.redcafe.net/f7/romario-retires-193607/
Rafa confirming 3 new signings: http://www.redcafe.net/f9/rafa-confirms-three-signings-193988/
On who's going to get Ronaldinho: http://www.redcafe.net/f9/will-we-get-ronnie-time-193523/
Essien opening his big mouth again: http://www.redcafe.net/f7/essien-open-his-big-mouth-again-193515/

Now, isn't it extremely clear for everybody? It's disgraceful enough to know that there's actually this kind of supporters in our forum...and please don't go around telling others that you belong to our community here!

[Jazz 16]

^^^^Stop antagonising him Rd4. Just leave him alone. You dont need
to stick your beak in all over the shop now do you? :rolleyes:

and as I said before.....Calm Down, Calm Down... (BOTH of you)

http://www.ultimatepartyshop.com/shopimages/products/normal/96777.jpg

[red_devils4life]

I simply just don't understand why must he show such disrespectfulness in hurling abuse such as name-callings & etc, to incite me. Grow up kiddo'! :mad:

[PITTM]

Wow that video was incredible. Military storming the field, 3 sent off in about 30 seconds. I wonder how much stoppage time was played. I also don't get why the whole team acted like they had lost and were laying on the ground after the penalty miss and the goal. Youre playing 11v7 with 30 minutes left. What is so difficult about a comeback?

[fazman]

anderson future legend full stop

[RedForceRising]

I'm truly ashamed that you actually resort to disgraceful name-callings! http://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/grayno.gifhttp://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/grayno.gifhttp://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/grayno.gif
I thot that only bloody, ill-bred Scousers will resort to dirty name-callings, however looks like I'm wrong though. You'd be better off supporting the likes of £helski, Le'Arse or even worse, BinDippers! http://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/oops.gif

FFS, don't tell me that it's all pure coincidences that RedCafe.net also posted those totally identical threads which you've duplicated over here. Take a look at the timing of when's the article created in RedCafe.net compare to those of yours over here.

And here's the link for the 'Amazing Anderson Article': http://www.redcafe.net/f6/anderson-article-193981/
The thread on Romario retiring: http://www.redcafe.net/f7/romario-retires-193607/
Rafa confirming 3 new signings: http://www.redcafe.net/f9/rafa-confirms-three-signings-193988/
On who's going to get Ronaldinho: http://www.redcafe.net/f9/will-we-get-ronnie-time-193523/
Essien opening his big mouth again: http://www.redcafe.net/f7/essien-open-his-big-mouth-again-193515/

Now, isn't it extremely clear for everybody? It's disgraceful enough to know that there's actually this kind of supporters in our forum...and please don't go around telling others that you belong to our community here!

Don't be a hypocrite.

When it come to name-calling you've done your fair share. And it was with me. So what we have here is the pot calling the kettle black.

I suggest you get off people's back, who simply want to share a good article.

I personally would like to know the source of an article, but couldn't give a damn which site or forum it also might have appeared on.

Quite honestly, it only seems to bother you.

I also don't care if somebody copies every single thread from another forum. As long as it;s interesting / insightful / funny / poignant.

Really, who gives a damn? I certainly don't. Whoever copies a thread from another forum onto this forum is doing me a favour by saving me the trouble to have to surf around for the info! Let me buy the guy who is saving me that trouble of surfing a pint!

On the other hand, you discouraging a fellow red from sharing an interesting read DOES bother me. It's unnecessary and quite honestly it makes you look silly.

Also, I don't want to have to surf onto another forum to get my info or discuss all thing Man Utd. I'm comfortable here and it doesn;t bug me one bit where the threads are from.

[fazman]

Don't be a hypocrite.

When it come to name-calling you've done your fair share. And it was with me. So what we have here is the pot calling the kettle black.

I suggest you get off people's back, who simply want to share a good article.

I personally would like to know the source of an article, but couldn't give a damn which site or forum it also might have appeared on.

Quite honestly, it only seems to bother you.

I also don't care if somebody copies every single thread from another forum. As long as it;s interesting / insightful / funny / poignant.

Really, who gives a damn? I certainly don't. Whoever copies a thread from another forum onto this forum is doing me a favour by saving me the trouble to have to surf around for the info! Let me buy the guy who is saving me that trouble of surfing a pint!

On the other hand, you discouraging a fellow red from sharing an interesting read DOES bother me. It's unnecessary and quite honestly it makes you look silly.

Also, I don't want to have to surf onto another forum to get my info or discuss all thing Man Utd. I'm comfortable here and it doesn;t bug me one bit where the threads are from.

calm calm down

[RedForceRising]

calm calm down


??

Erm....I'm actually really calm.

[versa]

Besides being only ethical, this is precisely why I personally think a source should be quoted if applicable, to avoid any possible issue at all, be it unnecessary squabbles (only; just a storm in a teacup in this case:) ) or even potential copyright issues or whatever and what have you. For I do noticed that some of our threads, think Newsroom's, are actually quoted in other website(s); the one I know of at least is www.manunews.com. So it can indeed be sensitive and legal consequences etc are not unreal.

By all means, share other articles we come across from elsewhere that we honestly think may be good for others here, be it from redcafe forum or goal.com, no matter. I am sure other members would greatly appreciate that we actually bother to put it up here. Just perhaps quote the source appropriately.:)

[dckyfoxes]

A legend in the making... Way to go Anderson

[sparkic]

I'm truly ashamed that you actually resort to disgraceful name-callings!
I thot that only bloody, ill-bred Scousers will resort to dirty name-callings, however looks like I'm wrong though. You'd be better off supporting the likes of £helski, Le'Arse or even worse, BinDippers!

FFS, don't tell me that it's all pure coincidences that RedCafe.net also posted those totally identical threads which you've duplicated over here. Take a look at the timing of when's the article created in RedCafe.net compare to those of yours over here.

And here's the link for the 'Amazing Anderson Article': http://www.redcafe.net/f6/anderson-article-193981/
The thread on Romario retiring: http://www.redcafe.net/f7/romario-retires-193607/
Rafa confirming 3 new signings: http://www.redcafe.net/f9/rafa-confirms-three-signings-193988/
On who's going to get Ronaldinho: http://www.redcafe.net/f9/will-we-get-ronnie-time-193523/
Essien opening his big mouth again: http://www.redcafe.net/f7/essien-open-his-big-mouth-again-193515/

Now, isn't it extremely clear for everybody? It's disgraceful enough to know that there's actually this kind of supporters in our forum...and please don't go around telling others that you belong to our community here!

Wow well done RDL4. You even got the links for the redcafe forums. You want a clap? I thought you said all my threads are copied from Redcafe? I got about 40 threads mate..how come there is only 5 that you listed? Common go find the rest will ya!

Amazing how the Rafa signs 3 players was posted by me earlier and HOURS before redcafe did it? :rolleyes: Make sure you go have a rant on redcafe and let them know manutdtalk got it first okay?

And it is amazing how i sourced all the articles i posted except the romario one which i read on both http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/romario-announces-retirement-109037/ (http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/romario-announces-retirement-109037/) and http://www.goal.com/en-us/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=638661. Enough sources for you rdl4?

And you don't want me to tell people I am apart of the manutdtalk community? Okay, you know what I had enough of this crap. I just post interesting reads with sources and I give my opinions on disscussions and I do not copy redcafe but if I am going to be accused of it im seriously just going to go. I think the rafa signs 3 players proves my point exactly and the fact that rdl4 only found 5 out of 39 threads (12%) on redcafe. If people don't want me on this fourm then I won't be on here. I will just go somewhere I am appreciated - not mocked and riduculed by false accusations. If that is how you treat fellow man united fans than that is just very petty and low. Hope your happy now mate.

Bye.

[RedForceRising]

Besides being only ethical, this is precisely why I personally think a source should be quoted if applicable, to avoid any possible issue at all, be it unnecessary squabbles (only; just a storm in a teacup in this case:) ) or even potential copyright issues or whatever and what have you. For I do noticed that some of our threads, think Newsroom's, are actually quoted in other website(s); the one I know of at least is www.manunews.com. So it can indeed be sensitive and legal consequences etc are not unreal.

By all means, share other articles we come across from elsewhere that we honestly think may be good for others here, be it from redcafe forum or goal.com, no matter. I am sure other members would greatly appreciate that we actually bother to put it up here. Just perhaps quote the source appropriately.:)

Hey Versa,

BUT he DID quote the source. Something rd4l missed out on and top of it accused him of lifting it from another forum. And then accusing that all his threads are lifted from other forums.


Quite honestly, I think it is so pathetic and the only thing rd4l managed to do is **** off a genuine fan who just wanted to share a good read.

[versa]

Hey Versa,

BUT he DID quote the source. Something rd4l missed out on and top of it accused him of lifting it from another forum. And then accusing that all his threads are lifted from other forums.

Quite honestly, I think it is so pathetic and the only thing rd4l managed to do is **** off a genuine fan who just wanted to share a good read.


My post #21 already addressed that. :)

My last post #34 is for general purpose only, if applicable.:)

Wow well done RDL4. You even got the links for the redcafe forums. You want a clap? I thought you said all my threads are copied from Redcafe? I got about 40 threads mate..how come there is only 5 that you listed? Common go find the rest will ya!

Amazing how the Rafa signs 3 players was posted by me earlier and HOURS before redcafe did it? :rolleyes: Make sure you go have a rant on redcafe and let them know manutdtalk got it first okay?

And it is amazing how i sourced all the articles i posted except the romario one which i read on both http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/romario-announces-retirement-109037/ (http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/romario-announces-retirement-109037/) and http://www.goal.com/en-us/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=638661. Enough sources for you rdl4?

And you don't want me to tell people I am apart of the manutdtalk community? Okay, you know what I had enough of this crap. I just post interesting reads with sources and I give my opinions on disscussions and I do not copy redcafe but if I am going to be accused of it im seriously just going to go. I think the rafa signs 3 players proves my point exactly and the fact that rdl4 only found 5 out of 39 threads (12%) on redcafe. If people don't want me on this fourm then I won't be on here. I will just go somewhere I am appreciated - not mocked and riduculed by false accusations. If that is how you treat fellow man united fans than that is just very petty and low. Hope your happy now mate.

Bye.

Calm down (again), mate. :)

Let's hear what RD4L say first, ok?

[dckyfoxes]

This arguments is unnecssary... some of the members here sees it as a piece of news updates thats all... We don't really have to bother about the source... Some people are lazy to find out what's happening around and they are happy to read it here as well... It doesn't make them any copycats cause when we reply we are just sharing different views of our own...

Nobody force us to agree to what the article says?
In a forum we shares views from different aspect like me I dislike TS and have no confidence in BF so I hope Man United will but a new Goalie... Many of you defer from me right???

Chill ok... Having Sparkie to say so much on the shoutbox about not feeling welcome here is a disgrace... Com'on we are all Manchester United Supporters...
We are here fo make friends...

[sparkic]

My post #21 already addressed that. :)

My last post #34 is for general purpose only, if applicable.:)



Calm down (again), mate. :)

Let's hear what RD4L say first, ok?

I don't think we will ever get an apology from rdl4. :rolleyes:

[futbol]

Let us not blame each other for finding threads on th caf and copying. We read different pages,blogs and forums. Whats wrong in getting information from any source ? This is a forum and we discuss things here.... be it from anywhere. Forums are for banter , views , ideas and discussions. Lets end this .... we are one big family.....

[carlyluvsunited]

What is this crap doing on this forum ...

It's my fault the thing to do with quoting sources OK.

We had problems with a site over copyright issues - and now we are obliged to
supply the 'source' for these things. However we dont drive mebers mad with it -
we mention it from time to time.

I'll decide when someone will be told about it and no one else ...

I'm not having these pathetic arguments in full view of EVERYONE who visits this
forum - if you want to have these silly games going on then do it by PM.

You went through all this nonsense and the end result is nothing - the guy DID
quote the source - RD4L cannot show that the thread came from The Caf as he
accused - And now the guy says he is leaving here which is what has really made
me mad RD4L - from now on you don't tell anyone what they can and can't do -
you stay out of it understand ?

Send me or any mod/admin a PM about it and we will deal with it.

Now cut all the crap and be nice ...

I'll PM the guy who posted the article and tell him it's finished so dont bring it up
again ANYONE - okie dokie





Hey Sparkic, isn't this from RedCafe too...looks like ue love to copy the threads from there huh?

Don't say "copy"; say "share".

I am not a member from RedCafe but I want to read it too. Who cares about the source of the source?

At the very least he should quote the source where he's discovered the article from. It's only respectful when everytime someone post an article from a foreign site & accredit the writer of the specific article & not instead, claim credit for it



EXCUSE ME? ALL MY THREADS? Are you retarted or what kid? Seriously go get a life will ya? You talk before even checking. And are you by any chance blind? I do sometimes get articles for my threads because it is an interesting article which I would like to share or get opinions of people on here and I do source them like the ones I got from tribalfootball and so on.

And I did say were I got the article from you fool. One of my best mates is a admin/mod for a very top Polish Man United fourm and he gives me awsome links and email's me awsome articles like this one and I did state that. How do you know were your beloved redcafe got it from? So your saying every single thing that goes up on that fourm is wrriten by themselves? So this so called person who started the thread over there writes for the observer?

Sorry for sharing interesting reads people. Sorry I did not know there is this invisible rule where when something appears on a fourm and it must stay on there and no one else can share them for other United fans to read. I am sorry for making red_devils have a cry about it all.

Are you sure your not a pool fan in disguise?



I'm truly ashamed that you actually resort to disgraceful name-callings! http://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/grayno.gifhttp://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/grayno.gifhttp://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/grayno.gif
I thot that only bloody, ill-bred Scousers will resort to dirty name-callings, however looks like I'm wrong though. You'd be better off supporting the likes of £helski, Le'Arse or even worse, BinDippers! http://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/oops.gif

FFS, don't tell me that it's all pure coincidences that RedCafe.net also posted those totally identical threads which you've duplicated over here. Take a look at the timing of when's the article created in RedCafe.net compare to those of yours over here.

And here's the link for the 'Amazing Anderson Article': http://www.redcafe.net/f6/anderson-article-193981/
The thread on Romario retiring: http://www.redcafe.net/f7/romario-retires-193607/
Rafa confirming 3 new signings: http://www.redcafe.net/f9/rafa-confirms-three-signings-193988/
On who's going to get Ronaldinho: http://www.redcafe.net/f9/will-we-get-ronnie-time-193523/
Essien opening his big mouth again: http://www.redcafe.net/f7/essien-open-his-big-mouth-again-193515/

Now, isn't it extremely clear for everybody? It's disgraceful enough to know that there's actually this kind of supporters in our forum...and please don't go around telling others that you belong to our community here!


Don't be a hypocrite.

When it come to name-calling you've done your fair share. And it was with me. So what we have here is the pot calling the kettle black.

I suggest you get off people's back, who simply want to share a good article.

I personally would like to know the source of an article, but couldn't give a damn which site or forum it also might have appeared on.

Quite honestly, it only seems to bother you.

I also don't care if somebody copies every single thread from another forum. As long as it;s interesting / insightful / funny / poignant.

Really, who gives a damn? I certainly don't. Whoever copies a thread from another forum onto this forum is doing me a favour by saving me the trouble to have to surf around for the info! Let me buy the guy who is saving me that trouble of surfing a pint!

On the other hand, you discouraging a fellow red from sharing an interesting read DOES bother me. It's unnecessary and quite honestly it makes you look silly.

Also, I don't want to have to surf onto another forum to get my info or discuss all thing Man Utd. I'm comfortable here and it doesn;t bug me one bit where the threads are from.


Besides being only ethical, this is precisely why I personally think a source should be quoted if applicable, to avoid any possible issue at all, be it unnecessary squabbles (only; just a storm in a teacup in this case:) ) or even potential copyright issues or whatever and what have you. For I do noticed that some of our threads, think Newsroom's, are actually quoted in other website(s); the one I know of at least is www.manunews.com. So it can indeed be sensitive and legal consequences etc are not unreal.

By all means, share other articles we come across from elsewhere that we honestly think may be good for others here, be it from redcafe forum or goal.com, no matter. I am sure other members would greatly appreciate that we actually bother to put it up here. Just perhaps quote the source appropriately.


Wow well done RDL4. You even got the links for the redcafe forums. You want a clap? I thought you said all my threads are copied from Redcafe? I got about 40 threads mate..how come there is only 5 that you listed? Common go find the rest will ya!

Amazing how the Rafa signs 3 players was posted by me earlier and HOURS before redcafe did it? Make sure you go have a rant on redcafe and let them know manutdtalk got it first okay?

And it is amazing how i sourced all the articles i posted except the romario one which i read on both http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/romario-announces-retirement-109037/ (http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/romario-announces-retirement-109037/) and http://www.goal.com/en-us/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=638661. Enough sources for you rdl4?

And you don't want me to tell people I am apart of the manutdtalk community? Okay, you know what I had enough of this crap. I just post interesting reads with sources and I give my opinions on disscussions and I do not copy redcafe but if I am going to be accused of it im seriously just going to go. I think the rafa signs 3 players proves my point exactly and the fact that rdl4 only found 5 out of 39 threads (12%) on redcafe. If people don't want me on this fourm then I won't be on here. I will just go somewhere I am appreciated - not mocked and riduculed by false accusations. If that is how you treat fellow man united fans than that is just very petty and low. Hope your happy now mate.

Bye.


Hey Versa,

BUT he DID quote the source. Something rd4l missed out on and top of it accused him of lifting it from another forum. And then accusing that all his threads are lifted from other forums.


Quite honestly, I think it is so pathetic and the only thing rd4l managed to do is **** off a genuine fan who just wanted to share a good read.

[red_devils4life]

I don't think we will ever get an apology from rdl4. :rolleyes:

Oh sparkic, here's one for you. Not an apology that you've expected but deffo' a reply. I wouldn't really say that I'm that firm or stubborn over my way of thinking. I can change my opinion the odd time though - which's obviously very rare. Sadly, it doesn't appy on this matter...also, it's rd4l ;)

Edited.
I'm sorry :)
Now, over to you mate

[futbol]

thread closed eh ?

[red_devils4life]

Not until sparkic apologised too...;) Nah, nvm! :D

[futbol]

aww..... group hug ?

[versa]

aww..... group hug ?

Nah. Two would suffice. ;)

Keep it simple; the rest are peace makers only.:)

[sparkic]

Yeah apology accepted rd4l. Lets just bury it here and move on shall we?

I don't see why there is an appology needed from my behalf since as many people have realised and mentioned above (including the mods) - I did nothing wrong what so ever. Thank you all the members and mods who has backed me up and convinced me to stay on this great fourm! Looking forward to post more great reads :)

And I heard rd4l was banned for some name calling and swearing - looks like RedForceRising was correct about the hypocrite part lol and I think this quote also deserves a mention and should be considered by rd4l as he said himself"I'm truly ashamed that you actually resort to disgraceful name-callings!I thot that only bloody, ill-bred Scousers will resort to dirty name-callings, however looks like I'm wrong though. You'd be better off supporting the likes of £helski, Le'Arse or even worse, BinDippers!"

I think one should look in their own backyard before one looks and accuses others and also if you have nothing nice to say - don't say anything!