The War In Iraq - neverending ?

[futbol]

Will the war ever end ? Everyday many people are killed. Will the war ever end ?

[carlyluvsunited]

Will the war ever end ? Everyday many people are killed. Will the war ever end ?Not until someone is prosecuted for starting an 'illegal' war !!!

In these days of high tech weapons and observation equipment - how on earth
did they manage to decide Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction
that could be launched inside 45 minutes ... :confused:

Maybe it was a little scratch on the lens of the camera !!!

Or some dust inside the lens ?

LMAO ... :D

Or maybe George W Bush and Tony Bliar made it all up .....

Now that sounds about right actually - they did !!!

Then they started a bombing campaign which killed many 100s of women and
children - how brave of them ... and now we have this whole country of Iraq in
disarray with suicide bombings, shooting, roadside bombs etc etc killing troops
every day !!!

....and they complain about it ... :eek:

History will tell anyone that if you choose to fight Arabs and Moujahaddin then
you will lose many people - these guys fight to the death !!!

USA and Britain chose to go in illegally and now they pay the price ...

It's not a good strategy to begin a war you aren't sure of winning ...

Common sense tells you this !!

[nigelchin]

its definitely a sad thing. war isnt humane at all. its evil. maybe the UN should arrest BUSH and hide him in a bush. =.=

okay that was a joke. but well, i seriously thing its bush's fault and he should be prosecuted for it. he started something that would never happen on its own

[Skele]

Will those Americans ever learn their lesson??

They were looking for Sadam,they had Sadam.What bloody thing they are looking for now?......ooh...I know....it's money again,right?.....or should I say OIL?

Mr.George Psicho,would you please stop playing the "world cop" game and get the hell out of Iraq,Serbia and all other peacefull countries!!!

[nigelchin]

maybe the rest of the world should invade the america and let him have a taste of his own SH*TS. oops. sorry for that.

[Skele]

maybe the rest of the world should invade the america and let him have a taste of his own SH*TS. oops. sorry for that.
LOL,mate....does anyone call you Adolf:D

[The_Red_Prince]

Bush is an idiot.Thinking he can just go into Iraq and quell all the violence and now look whats happened.Many American families are in despair because their mothers and fathers are probably dead or injured beyond medical attention.Thank God,i live in Jamaica and we are not on the radar scope of that madman

[carlyluvsunited]

Bush is an idiot.Thinking he can just go into Iraq and
quell all the violence and now look whats happened.Many American families are
in despair because their mothers and fathers are probably dead or injured
beyond medical attention.Thank God,i live in Jamaica and we are not on the radar
scope of that madmanIraqi families are in despair - we must think of
them first ... :o

They didn't ask for a war - they don't deserve to be caught up in the middle of
this war - and they sure as hell don't deserve to die in this war !!!

Saddam Hussein should have been left where he was !!

I have quite a few Iraqi friends and without a single thought every one of these
people would take Saddam back - if they got back the life they had before USA
and UK ruined it - THIS IS WHAT MAKES ME MAD ... THIS IS A BIG MISTAKE AND
YET ... NO ONE WILL EVER PAY THE PRICE - EXCEPT IRAQ AND IT'S PEOPLE ... :(

[BALROG]

Will those Americans ever learn their lesson??

They were looking for Sadam,they had Sadam.What bloody thing they are looking for now?......ooh...I know....it's money again,right?.....or should I say OIL?

Mr.George Psicho,would you please stop playing the "world cop" game and get the hell out of Iraq,Serbia and all other peacefull countries!!!

HOW ABOUT THIS INSTEAD " WILL THOSE AMERICAN POLITICIANS LEARN". this is much better than generalizing or stereotyping statements. ;)

[carlyluvsunited]

HOW ABOUT THIS INSTEAD " WILL THOSE AMERICAN POLITICIANS LEARN". this is much better than generalizing or stereotyping statements. ;)..... and this is much better again ....

"WILL THOSE AMERICAN POLITICIANS LEARN - THE SAME POLITICIANS VOTED INTO POWER BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE" ... ;)

[yangch0000]

When Iraq won the Asian Cup, it really made my sad..the people there cant even celebrate whole heartedly, and the iraqi national team cant train or celebrate in their own country..
the saddest thing is i cant see an end for this

[carlyluvsunited]

When Iraq won the Asian Cup, it really made my sad..the people there cant even celebrate whole heartedly, and the iraqi national team cant train or celebrate in their own country..
the saddest thing is i cant see an end for this
I actually think Iraq winning this tournament was the best sporting achievement
of last year - BY ANYONE OR ANY TEAM !!!

Their country is in pieces after all the in-fighting ...

Two of the guys in the team had close relatives killled DURING the tournament.

One had even lost his own child 1 month before the Asia Cup started !!!

Half the team was Shi'ite ... The other half Sun'ni ...

But despite having so many huge things going wrong for them - and despite
losing loved ones so close to playing in this Cup - and despite the Sun'ni, Shi'ite
fighting going on - and despit the odds being stacked against them ....

THEY WON !!

It just goes to show that with a little 'heart' and 'commitment' anyone can
overcome great barriers and defy the odds if they really, really want to ...

Iraq National Football Team - My Team Of The Year For 2007 ... :)

[United_OG]

awwww you're a good person carly, i always have respect for people who think of others.

The war in iraq was a disaster, is a disaster and peoples attitudes around the world have changed drastically since this so called war on terror. 9/11 was a horrible thing but people have changed so much since then. People who once were happy now have so much hate in there heart. People who once felt free and equal now feel isolated and lonely and this is all done through politicians and the so called elite of the world who make so much money themselves off stuff like this.

Since 9/11 the world is a different place for muslims and for non muslims alike but in reality thats a really harsh but very real truth because when we have something constantly shoved down our throats by politicians through the use of media outlets it will sooner or later become your way of thinking...especially if you're a weak individual. The war in iraq and the 9/11 changed the world drastically imo but not in a good way. It is less friendly than before but thats my opinion and is ofcourse very subjective. Also I hate steriotypes and how people differentiate between people on where they are from, there class, colour, religion etc. For example as soon as an american soldier dies its all over the news but everyday about 30-50 innocent iraqis who got mixed in an evil war just get passed by like its nothing.

I agree totally with those who have said that the war from the start was a disgrace. It is all about economics and currencies, such as what would happen if saddam would have changed the price of oil from USD to EUROS when selling its oil to america. This would have been a disaster for america and hence 9/11 was the perfect excuse to invade the country even though 9/11 goes way deeper ofcourse.

Also alot of these people who are fighting now in iraq...aka the insurgents are now people who were once farmers and just people with no military training just fighting for what they believe in and what they feel like is a wrong occupation. Notice how they are not known as terrorists. However ofcourse not all of these are good people but i am just saying, not everything is as clear as crystal, especially in a war that was illegal to begin with.

More than 500 000 iraqis have died i think since the way began, ofcourse numbers vary but whatever the number, whether it be 10 children in a school or a a huge number, these casualties are of something which was never meant to happen in the first place.

The war is a disgrace and just thinking of it makes me sad because so many people are dying for no reason. Ofcourse our soldiers and americas are made to look like heroes because they are "serving" the country but war is inhumane and when it is done without a real reason its just sickening.

Sorry people if all find my views controversial but i hate the war and the fact that bush not only can get elected but to be re-elected makes me sick.

By the way i'm not anti-american, i just spent the whole summer there and i enjoyed my time there immensely but i still have the right to have an opinion on this.

pz

[SALFORD RED]

OG, Thats probably one of the best thought out and "said with feeling" posts
that i have read in a long long long time.
How anyone could find your views controversial i dont know.
You speak words that lots try to say on such a touchy subject
and have done a fantastic job.

You post some funny posts, some crazy posts, have
some crazy chat in the shoutbox and then come out with this.

VERY glad you are on this forum mate.
( good rep given).

pz, lv and bananas !

[United_OG]

OG, Thats probably one of the best thought out and "said with feeling" posts
that i have read in a long long long time.
How anyone could find your views controversial i dont know.
You speak words that lots try to say on such a touchy subject
and have done a fantastic job.

You post some funny posts, some crazy posts, have
some crazy chat in the shoutbox and then come out with this.

VERY glad you are on this forum mate.
( good rep given).

pz, lv and bananas !

Nice one mate! I felt good reading your post! You all will come to realise i'm a decent bloke hopefully!lol

Much appreciated Sal, you're a top man.

pz

[carlyluvsunited]

Nice one mate! I felt good reading your post! You all will come to realise i'm a decent bloke hopefully!lol

Much appreciated Sal, you're a top man.

pzGet a room you two ... :rolleyes:

[nigelchin]

LOL,mate....does anyone call you Adolf:D

hahahha sadly, no.:(

[Skele]

HOW ABOUT THIS INSTEAD " WILL THOSE AMERICAN POLITICIANS LEARN". this is much better than generalizing or stereotyping statements. ;)
Absolutely correct.I meant on POLITICIANS(or only one) on first place.Not the whole nation,of course;)
But when i say politicians,I HAVE to mention those people who vote and support them(or he).And this is HUGE number.IMO they have to realize what the whole world already knows-they are wrong.Am I right?That's why I wrote "will they ever learn".;)

[futbol]

The americans today poke their nose into everything. thier nuke deal in India .... creating havoc. They are after oil in Iraq.... well said. OIL. they killed thousands for it.
And bush talks about terrorists .... who is he trying to fool ? himself ?

[futbol]

http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sign/sign0015.gif

[nigelchin]

actually, i would sahy politicians as a whole, not bush alone. they could have stop bush. yes, bush might have all the power, but what if everyone rised agaisnt him? HE MIGHT HAVE STOPPED.

when he first taken over, i thought he might make a good president. but sadly no. and look at the state he made the US into. there's risk economic recession might start. and who does he blames? the middle east country for increasing the price of oil. who made that happen? he himself. for invading iraq. causing all these to start. though indirectly. i really hope he would get lost soon and let obama take over.

[Skele]

actually, i would sahy politicians as a whole, not bush alone. they could have stop bush. yes, bush might have all the power, but what if everyone rised agaisnt him? HE MIGHT HAVE STOPPED.

when he first taken over, i thought he might make a good president. but sadly no. and look at the state he made the US into. there's risk economic recession might start. and who does he blames? the middle east country for increasing the price of oil. who made that happen? he himself. for invading iraq. causing all these to start. though indirectly. i really hope he would get lost soon and let obama take over.
Mate,I totally agree with you,but I am not quite sure that if everyone rise against him that they can stop him.Yes,they are opposition,but very inferior.He is some kind of modern world dictator.

[United_OG]

Get a room you two ... :rolleyes:


Haterrrrrrrr,lol...i'm sorry but its just natural for me to post a top post now and again,lol......but since we're talking about getting a room...;)

:cool:

pz!

[Brock]

Oh my, we could write a textbook on this matter. And there will be in the future...

I find a couple of these statements previously made appalling perhaps because of a lack of knowledge? I'm not the most informed person on the matter but here are a few thoughts:

Carly - The United States has given Saddam, Iraq, Iran, Ben Laden, etc. weapons over the last half century... Therefore, i think it is totally possible that Iraq DID have weapons of mass destruction - where are they now? Doesnt matter really.

OIL - There is NO doubt that I think the primary reason we are over there now is because of Oil. I think if all the oil there was gone, we would be out the next day. We are all complaining about the cost of gas - if we werent involved in the middle east you know how much more expensive gas would be? And do you realize the effects and that increase in gas prices? EVERYTHING would become more expensive.

Complaining about peoples' lives in Iraq:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v446/n7134/images/446366a-i2.0.jpg

I'll never forgot watching the little kids chase after that statue behind American vehicles and hitting it repeatedly with their shoes... Saddam had killed hundreds of thousands of his own people. And yet we are complaining that we are hurting the public? Give me a break. NOW, the democrats in the United States are crying for us to get into the same mess in Darfur about human rights. Isn't that the same thing? A bit two-faced dont you think? Bunch of crappy politicians. But carly, now we are developing schools and trying to establish a working government and infrastructure to establish some hope. And what is their primary source of income? Oil. If we werent collecting it, they would really be in shambles. I think we are far from hurting them..

Futbol - Since we have been involved in the Middle East how many terrorist attacks has the United States and the U.K. been involved in on a large scale? None to my knowledge...You dont want our "noses" in everything? Checks and Balances... If we didnt, Iran would already have nuclear capability and N Korea would too. And thats not to say that the U.S. is the head dog. I'm all for being second guessed.

Nigel - Bush inherited a mess economically from Clinton. We were in massive debt and the economy was a wreck. During Bush's reign there has been a massive amount of development and jobs created. As for this latest recession, it has nothing to do with oil. Clearly, you are not fully invested in the global/national markets. And it is not just the U.S. economy, it is a global issue - Its part of a cycle . The markets are not always going to go up - I wont explain further unless you ask me too. And please, please send me evidence where Bush blames the price of Oil.

Take on Obama: Over the past few months, I've been impressed with Obama. But did you hear what his wife said a few weeks ago? She said that the thought of having an african american candidate is the first time she was proud of her country. Are you kidding me? This woman grew up in Chicago with nothing yet she worked her butt off and got a full scholarship to a university called Princeton and then a full scholarship to Harvard Law. That woman was GIFTED and i find that disrespectful and wrong.

I geuss the bottomline is dont believe everything you hear... Do your own homework on the matter and come to your own conclusions. Cheers

[United_OG]

Oh my, we could write a textbook on this matter. And there will be in the future...

I find a couple of these statements previously made appalling perhaps because of a lack of knowledge? I'm not the most informed person on the matter but here are a few thoughts:

Carly - The United States has given Saddam, Iraq, Iran, Ben Laden, etc. weapons over the last half century... Therefore, i think it is totally possible that Iraq DID have weapons of mass destruction - where are they now? Doesnt matter really.

OIL - There is NO doubt that I think the primary reason we are over there now is because of Oil. I think if all the oil there was gone, we would be out the next day. We are all complaining about the cost of gas - if we werent involved in the middle east you know how much more expensive gas would be? And do you realize the effects and that increase in gas prices? EVERYTHING would become more expensive.

Complaining about peoples' lives in Iraq:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v446/n7134/images/446366a-i2.0.jpg

I'll never forgot watching the little kids chase after that statue behind American vehicles and hitting it repeatedly with their shoes... Saddam had killed hundreds of thousands of his own people. And yet we are complaining that we are hurting the public? Give me a break. NOW, the democrats in the United States are crying for us to get into the same mess in Darfur about human rights. Isn't that the same thing? A bit two-faced dont you think? Bunch of crappy politicians. But carly, now we are developing schools and trying to establish a working government and infrastructure to establish some hope. And what is their primary source of income? Oil. If we werent collecting it, they would really be in shambles. I think we are far from hurting them..

Futbol - Since we have been involved in the Middle East how many terrorist attacks has the United States and the U.K. been involved in on a large scale? None to my knowledge...You dont want our "noses" in everything? Checks and Balances... If we didnt, Iran would already have nuclear capability and N Korea would too. And thats not to say that the U.S. is the head dog. I'm all for being second guessed.

Nigel - Bush inherited a mess economically from Clinton. We were in massive debt and the economy was a wreck. During Bush's reign there has been a massive amount of development and jobs created. As for this latest recession, it has nothing to do with oil. Clearly, you are not fully invested in the global/national markets. And it is not just the U.S. economy, it is a global issue - Its part of a cycle . The markets are not always going to go up - I wont explain further unless you ask me too. And please, please send me evidence where Bush blames the price of Oil.

Take on Obama: Over the past few months, I've been impressed with Obama. But did you hear what his wife said a few weeks ago? She said that the thought of having an african american candidate is the first time she was proud of her country. Are you kidding me? This woman grew up in Chicago with nothing yet she worked her butt off and got a full scholarship to a university called Princeton and then a full scholarship to Harvard Law. That woman was GIFTED and i find that disrespectful and wrong.

I geuss the bottomline is dont believe everything you hear... Do your own homework on the matter and come to your own conclusions. Cheers


Yes sir I have definately done more than just my own homework on this matter and find some some of the comments in this post bizzare. Did Saddam really kill hundreds of thousands of people? I know he was a bad man and killed some thousands i believe but for a country to be willing to take him back over what they have now pretty much tells the story as far as that is concerned.

Many people have said (iraqis who live in iraq) that women can no longer go out without the escort of a male brother or cousin as it is totally unsafe there. This is the good that America are doing there? You actually support this war?

You say that America supplied these countries and leaders with weapons and that is totally true and i think everyone knows that but there have been official reports and even America has admitted there are no WMD in iraq. Being given some weapons in something but to have the capabilities of having a weapon of mass destruction is completely different. America would not give them weapons that could be used againt themselves nor would they ever let iraq be in a position of having a WMD through the black market or not. You say you think there may have been but every official report says there is not so whilst you say "it doesnt really matter" i could totally twist that on you and say "what you say doesnt really matter" because your arguement is baseless.

Carly speaks truth when she says that some of the comments especially the 45 minute one was a disaster. The war is a disgrace.

Now you say that you accept that the primary reason for America for being in iraq now is OIL and that if they were not there of how much more expensive prices of gas and so on would be. LMAO...I do not know if you're implying that it is okay for all them iraqis to die and that an illegal war is okay because it lessens our price of gas...If that is what you are saying then you really need to take a good look at yourself because that is a shocking comment.

Americas recent occupation in the middle east has only made the world as more dangerous place and quite franky the foreign policies of countries like the united states and UK are disgraceful. It is not like we were getting attacked all the time before or anything.

Bush is a disgrace for a leader imo and the comments about obama and clinton are slightly off topic so not much to say on that apart from i doubt anyone could do as bad as bush has done is certain ways.


As for America doing good in Iraq, i dont think a country which many say is in a state of civil war, where everyday there is one bomb after another, where there is total infighting and people dying everywhere is getting any better. It is in a much worse state than when saddam was there. The country is war torn and looks it too. Any development that happened in that country has been blown away.

I think it is nice when soldiers and stuff gives sweets to little kids and stuff for free but i find it sad that alot of these kids once had a brother or sister. So many children are born with diseases, so many new diseases have increased in iraq since the war.

Sorry mate but withing my research and not only mine, i cannot see any good of this war in a humane way.

People need to stop watching channels like fox news in america,lol.

pz

[carlyluvsunited]

1. I find a couple of these statements previously made appalling

2. Carly - The United States has given Saddam, Iraq, Iran, Ben Laden, etc.
weapons over the last half century... Therefore, i think it is totally possible that
Iraq DID have weapons of mass destruction - where are they now? Doesnt
matter really.

3. if we werent involved in the middle east you know how much more expensive
gas would be?

4. I'll never forgot watching the little kids chase after that statue behind
American vehicles

5. Saddam had killed hundreds of thousands of his own people

6. Give me a break. NOW, the democrats in the United States are crying for us
to get into the same mess in Darfur

7. A bit two-faced dont you think?

8. But carly, now we are developing schools and trying to establish a working
government and infrastructure to establish some hope. And what is their primary
source of income? Oil. If we werent collecting it, they would really be in
shambles. I think we are far from hurting them..

Spot the poor man who has been brainwashed by the American Government with
their lies and sad excuses for MURDER ! Because that's what it is - if you enter
an illegal war every person who dies has been murdered ... so who will be
charged for this ? Just a few token trials of nobody soldiers which is soon
forgotten.

I numbered each of your points above - and will answer them all as well ...

1. I would swap the word 'appalling' for 'too close to the truth and a little
embarassing for my country ... :mad:

2. Yes the USA did give Saddam weapons - such as guns, tanks, rocket
launching guns etc etc - not a 20 metre long device that can wipe out the UK
from 1200 miles away - of course they didn't do that for God's sake .. they just
accused him of having these weapons - but still, to this day, cannot explain
where they are, where they were, where they ever were. Bush and Blair lied to
the very people who voted them into power !!! Disgraceful behaviour - and yet
USA and UK let it go - they did nothing !!

3. LMAO .... Oh dear gas prices might go up soon let's go and kill 100,000 Iraqi
men, women and CHILDREN !!! Then claim we saved the world !! Yes right
whatever - dont insult my intelligence with the bull that Bush spills out
everywhere !!

4. I too watched the little children chasing the American vehicles throwing
sweets/candy to the soldiers - they had been brainwashed, along with their
parents, into believing America was not an 'occupying force' but there to help
them. Now these same children chase the American vehicles ...... and throw
hand bombs, grenades and rocks at the American soldiers !!! Says it all really ....
America is not welcome in the middle east - any part of it !!

5. Saddam killed 100,000s of his own people - where on earth did you get a
figure like that - looneyland I say - Or George W Bush's head - same thing really.

6. 1.2 million men, women and children murdered by The Janjaweed in Darfur -
but not the same enthusiasm to save these people by America is there - and why
is that ? What is the big difference between Iraqis and Darfur people ? Thats
right - those in Darfur have nothing - no oil, no gold, no diamonds !! For God's
sake half of them have no clothes and no food either but who cares ? Not good
old America I can tell you !!

7. Don't ever call me two-faced ... :mad: Save it for Bush and his henchmen !!
They are experts at it - they live and die by it - they can tell a lie that kills 100,00
0 people and turn a blind eye to it !! They then spin a few stories about it and
people like you lap it up !!

8. Developing schools, LMAO - well that will be handy for the dead, dying and
those who get blown up DAILY by the terrorists wont it - let's build a school
today and everything is OK ...I'm shaking my head in disbelief at most of this crap.

That's a very well put line too ... "If we weren't collecting it [the oil] they would
really be in a shambles" .... I've heard it all now - that just about puts the
cherry on the cake, lol. They managed to collect it for the past 100 years -
suddenly America steps in to 'help' ... The biggest oil fields with the biggest
reserve on this planet - and America is now collecting it. What a
surprise ... :rolleyes:

I don't hate Americans by the way - I have no racist views on them. I very rarely
have problems with anyone in my life I am easy going person. It just seems to
me that every time I come across Americans they are all doing the same thing ...
this 'me, me, me' attitude to everyone and anything. Maybe I have this wrong,
maybe it's me with the problem ?

Many, many times these American 'heroes' turn up at orphanages in Bucuresti
Romania, my home. They come to the orphanage to 'help the children', 'to make
a change in their lives', 'to give them a better quality of life' Oh yes I've heard
them all ...

Then they wander around picking up the babies for photoshoots etc etc and as
soon as they have their stupid pictures they dump the baby back down !!! It's a
game to them - a trip to save the world or whatever ... Some pictures to show
the folks back home "I am a hero, look what I did" - A number of times I have
thrown them out from the orphanage - the children need love and attention and
to know that somebody does care about them - not to appear in some idiots
picture !!! They are not welcome in Romania. They are not welcome in Iraq !!!
They are NEEDED by millions in Darfur - but it's not a viable proposition to go
there - so the next million begin to die, then the next and the next !!!

[Red Devil]

The war in Iraq is long over. What we have now in foreign insurgents flooding into the country to take on the "infidel". One of the major problems with arab religion is that they take what some cleric says as "gospel" as many cannot even read their holy book - and clerics decipher things in the book to suit themselves. The people of Iraq should be left, by all sides, to sort themselves out but these foreign insurgents dont want that, they want a bloody fight, just for the sake of it. If they were not fighting americans etc; they would be fighting inter tribal.

[Keano4taoiseach]

Wasn't the 'legal reason' for the Americans invading Iraq because they believed Sadam had nuclear warheads?

They had no proof but they invaded anyway because they wanted the oil.

Now the Americans are stuck over there and claim they are trying to restore the state to health?

They shouldn't be there now.

The Iraqis are adults etc. let them sort themselves out.

[Red Devil]

They invaded on the "false" (eg: as yet unproven) surmise that he had chemical weapons not nukes. Since the allies have found brand new fighters hidden under the sands, there could well be stuff as yet unfound. I also agree that if oil has not been involved, maybe they would have just shook fists in General Direction!!

[futbol]

actually, i would sahy politicians as a whole, not bush alone. they could have stop bush. yes, bush might have all the power, but what if everyone rised agaisnt him? HE MIGHT HAVE STOPPED.

when he first taken over, i thought he might make a good president. but sadly no. and look at the state he made the US into. there's risk economic recession might start. and who does he blames? the middle east country for increasing the price of oil. who made that happen? he himself. for invading iraq. causing all these to start. though indirectly. i really hope he would get lost soon and let obama take over.


totally agree

[abojodeh]

is this busby statue


Image of Saddam Statue being pulled down

[carlyluvsunited]

is this busby statue


Image removed - insulting


Get out ! :rolleyes:

[ManUtd08]

please stop war is not good it bad fing

[carlyluvsunited]

please stop war is not good it bad fing
Good grief !!!

We have had a very lengthy and
informative discusson here.

Some really good and well thought
out posts too ...

Sal was so impressed he even gave
one member a nice rep score ...

For such a controversial and lengthy
conflict involving 1000s of troops
and the death of 1000s of military
and civilian people ... including
women and children ... I could sit
down all day and discuss a million
things about this ...

But forget all that ... you think it
deserves just 9 words :confused:

I am disappointed ... to say the least ... :(

[Red Devil]

is this busby statue Image deleted

Are you bloody STUPID!!!

But forget all that ... you think it
deserves just 9 words :confused:

I am disappointed ... to say the least ... :(

How many words does he need to say, War is bad - Stop! There - thats only FOUR.

[NateR]

Since we have been involved in the Middle East how many terrorist attacks has the United States and the U.K. been involved in on a large scale? None to my knowledge...You dont want our "noses" in everything? Checks and Balances... If we didnt, Iran would already have nuclear capability and N Korea would too. And thats not to say that the U.S. is the head dog. I'm all for being second guessed.

LOL.

What do you call 7/7? That was a result of the Iraq war.

If anything, it is America being in the Mid-East that has increased the threat of terrorism and has made the world a more dangerous place.
AL-Qaeda is waging war on America precisely because they are meddling in the affairs of Mid-East countries.


They support & Arm Rulers of countries with appalling Human rights record and they turn a blind eye to all of this in return for them supporting America in everything they do.

America is the reason why there is terrorism in the world today, because they could not keep their noses out of matters that didn't concern them.

Everywhere America goes and meddles, they leave death & suffering behind.

Also, there is no proof at all Iran is after Nuclear weapons. Their own Intelligence agencies (CIA) proved that.

[Red Devil]

The thing with Iran is "nuclear capability" not nuclear availability.