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dlan4327
03-04-2008, 02:45 AM
Just finished watching L'Pool - Arsenal Highlights & it's official... Bendtner is the biggest tool in Europe. He actually looked like he wanted to clear Fabregas' shot of the line and then realised what he'd done and thought "Oh Crap". I know most of you couldn't give a hoot about what goes on at Arsenal but this something that truly been bugging me for a while. Why on Earth is Bendtner rated so highly? Conversely why is the far, far superior Walcott rated so lowly? Walcott has been shunted onto the wing, given brief glimpses of game time and he still seems to shine whenever he comes on. Bendtner on the other hand is getting plenty of game time and still looks like he should be playing for Havant and Waterloo reserves! Seriously I know nobody will agree to this but if I could have one player from Arsenal I'd take Walcott in a heartbeat and wouldn't regret it. Does anybody else feel the same. It won't happen but I'd welcome Walcott at United any day.
fazman
03-04-2008, 07:04 AM
Just finished watching L'Pool - Arsenal Highlights & it's official... Bendtner is the biggest tool in Europe. He actually looked like he wanted to clear Fabregas' shot of the line and then realised what he'd done and thought "Oh Crap". I know most of you couldn't give a hoot about what goes on at Arsenal but this something that truly been bugging me for a while. Why on Earth is Bendtner rated so highly? Conversely why is the far, far superior Walcott rated so lowly? Walcott has been shunted onto the wing, given brief glimpses of game time and he still seems to shine whenever he comes on. Bendtner on the other hand is getting plenty of game time and still looks like he should be playing for Havant and Waterloo reserves! Seriously I know nobody will agree to this but if I could have one player from Arsenal I'd take Walcott in a heartbeat and wouldn't regret it. Does anybody else feel the same. It won't happen but I'd welcome Walcott at United any day.
dont mean to be funny but i aint no arsenal fan but i think bedtner is a brilliant player with a good future but he does have bad attitude
CROoney
03-04-2008, 07:27 AM
Why is Bendtner still around? - maybe for his goalscoring record compared to minutes played - he's their solskjaer
moondog
03-04-2008, 07:58 AM
Why is Bendtner still around? - maybe for his goalscoring record compared to minutes played - he's their solskjaer
Agree CRO, I have watched most of arse's games this year - because I despise everything about them. I am always a little nervous when bendtner comes on.
He is big, talented and knows how to score.
reddwarf
03-04-2008, 09:49 AM
Walcott is still a young player developing his skills. He has frightening pace and manager's often like to use this on the wings - Thierry Henry started on the wing, Liverpool played Bellamy and Cisse on the wing, Dyer who prefers central midfield is usually played on the wing etc.
Walcott looked nervous when he came on last night. A Champions League quarter-final is a big occasion for a such a young lad. He has only recently managed to score in the Prem and needs to be slowly introduced into both the Arsenal and England set up because his potential is there for all to see.
Skele
03-04-2008, 11:47 AM
bentander is good player
but about walcot wenger hate all english players
I don't think that wenger hates all english players.Arsenal is some kind of foreign legion, but wenger is doing a good job with young and talented players,many years ago.Bendtner is one of them,Theo also.Imho Bendtner is better and he has great potential.I heard a lot of bad thigs about Walcot.He has bad personality and he is very lazy on the training.Maybe this is one of wenger's reasons:rolleyes:
Nemanjaaa
03-04-2008, 12:02 PM
I havent rated Walcott ever! But when he comes on he doies inject a bit of pace around the team.
They should keep Bendtner though if he can link with Adeybeyor then they could create a decent partnership.
yangch0000
03-04-2008, 03:04 PM
Bendtner is a good player with potential. i just think arsenal just isnt the club for him, his style just doesnt fit into the arsenal system.
nigelchin
03-04-2008, 03:52 PM
you cant compare walcott and bendter. they are different type of players. bendter is like their super sub. remember when they played tottenham last year dec? he came on and scored with his first touch. a header from a corner kick.
Jazz 16
03-04-2008, 04:55 PM
Walcott has done nothing at Arsenal to be fair.
I dont like Bendtner's attitude but if I had to pick between him
and Theo, Id pick Bendtner each time. For one so young he has great
skill, pace, touch, passing, finishing and heading ability.
Couple that with his strength and height make him a huge prospect
for the future. And Theo has done what exactly? other than skinning
1/2 Milan players that are old enough to be his dad.
Red Devil
03-04-2008, 05:04 PM
United fan Rule #1: Dont give a damn about any player who is NOT United. Therefore under that rule, I have nothing to say ;)
akash_reds
03-04-2008, 05:07 PM
bendtner is a good player actualy....their super sub....he has good finishing ability....but it was comical to see the "almost" goal thing.....classic expression on his face......but not the best thing you could do out of the bench...
Justice
03-04-2008, 05:39 PM
Bendtner is rated highly because he is GOOD.
Walcott is rated lowly because he is English.
/thread.
dlan4327
04-04-2008, 02:51 AM
Bendtner is rated highly because he is GOOD.
Walcott is rated lowly because he is English.
Ahh Justice. Succinct and to the point. You certainly don't waste words.:D
CROoney
04-04-2008, 04:05 PM
Walcott has done nothing at Arsenal to be fair.
I dont like Bendtner's attitude but if I had to pick between him
and Theo, Id pick Bendtner each time. For one so young he has great
skill, pace, touch, passing, finishing and heading ability.
Couple that with his strength and height make him a huge prospect
for the future. And Theo has done what exactly? other than skinning
1/2 Milan players that are old enough to be his dad.
..well - he did score a brace against birmingham and when he's introduced - the tempo of the game is raised.. he made great runs against bolton - set up a superb chance for RVP who missed it ( it was easier to score that one than to miss ) , and he had a few great runs against Liverpool too... as for that Milan part - Ronaldo didn't even manage to skin those old grandads so the lad deserves respect imo ;)
Jazz 16
04-04-2008, 04:08 PM
..well - he did score a brace against birmingham and when he's introduced - the tempo of the game is raised.. he made great runs against bolton - set up a superb chance for RVP who missed it ( it was more easy to score that one than to miss ) , and he had a few great runs against Liverpool too... as for that Milan part - Ronaldo didn't even manage to skin those old grandads so the lad deserves respect imo
but all those postives (there arent that many) are from his entire Arsenal career.
Surely he should be doing a lot more than just that?
His 2 goals vs Brum were nice but I havent seen any more goals and its not
as if he hasnt got game time.
He is still young but he hasnt progressed the way people thought he would.
CROoney
04-04-2008, 04:13 PM
but all those postives (there arent that many) are from his entire Arsenal career.
Surely he should be doing a lot more than just that?
His 2 goals vs Brum were nice but I havent seen any more goals and its not
as if he hasnt got game time.
He is still young but he hasnt progressed the way people thought he would.
true,true...but he's slowly coming to it...i can see something potentially big in the lad... oh and - the goal against chelsea in the c.c. final was good too...let me put it this way - i'd love to have him in the team... we could find a place for him( Walcott that is ) ;)
nigelchin
04-04-2008, 05:12 PM
yeah we could. we just lack players like him. physical. though he could do much more to improve his mobility. adebayor moves much more than him. thats the only thing that would make him a really good player. right now, he is still young, with all the potential. but well, for now, i do think he's doing good. i think the reason that walcott isnt getting his chance is cause his finishing isnt that good yet. walcott is only good at dribbling and that pace of his is an major asset. but, if you do notice at the games he plays, his finishing isnt that good yet.
CROoney
10-04-2008, 07:18 AM
Walcott has done nothing at Arsenal to be fair.
I dont like Bendtner's attitude but if I had to pick between him
and Theo, Id pick Bendtner each time. For one so young he has great
skill, pace, touch, passing, finishing and heading ability.
Couple that with his strength and height make him a huge prospect
for the future. And Theo has done what exactly? other than skinning
1/2 Milan players that are old enough to be his dad.
:rolleyes: -hmmm.....;) :p
reddwarf
10-04-2008, 11:06 AM
It was a superb run by Walcott and literally made me jump out of my seat.
After he beat the first 2 men I could see the amount of space he had to run into. I leapt up and started shouting...
'He's going to take them all on! He is! He's beaten another! WHAT A RUN! WHAT A GOAL!"
I was with a couple of Liverpool supporters and you should have seen the look on their faces! Just a shame that they were leaping out of their seat and cheering a minute later :rolleyes:
Carnage
10-04-2008, 11:20 AM
Walcott is amazing he needs to be given a chance and that run ... Maradona :D
CROoney
10-04-2008, 11:28 AM
It was a superb run by Walcott and literally made me jump out of my seat.
After he beat the first 2 men I could see the amount of space he had to run into. I leapt up and started shouting...
'He's going to take them all on! He is! He's beaten another! WHAT A RUN! WHAT A GOAL!"
I was with a couple of Liverpool supporters and you should have seen the look on their faces! Just a shame that they were leaping out of their seat and cheering a minute later :rolleyes:
no...it wasn't a shame at all ;)...in fact i started cheering when gerrard scored the pen.... :p---some people hate liverpool for our rivalry but i hate arsenal for fergie-wenger rivalry... if anything's as important as united success that's arsenal failure for ME ! I hateeeeeeee them !!!!!!!
manutd004
10-04-2008, 02:09 PM
I think Bendtner is decent, but he isn't as good as people say.
But, what this thread should be called is Why is Senderos still around?
Seriously, he must be the worst defender to play at a top club. He isn't even good enough to play against a lower Prem team, never mind a Champions League quarter final!
And Walcott is a fantastic player. Hes quick, can beat men, can play in behind or as a winger (albeit hes better than a winger) and his final ball is great.
Wenger has to take the blame for Tuesdays defeat. He plays his best centre-back as a right back, with a player who isn't up to it in his place, while he has a right-back playing as a right-winger and a fantastic right winger in his place.
He should have played;
Eboue-Gallas-Toure-Clichy
Walcott-Fabregas-Flamini-Diaby
Hleb
Adebayor
If he had played this, Arsenal would have won (in my opinion.)
All I want to know is what Arsene Wenger sees in Senderos :confused:
dlan4327
10-04-2008, 02:22 PM
Senderos has his moments. I remember at U21 level he garnered a lot of praise. I don't remember exactly who said this about Senderos but a prominent player remarked that Senderos was the most difficult to play against at the U21 Championships. He's big and decent in the air, at least.
Zenitka
10-04-2008, 02:29 PM
Walcott fantastic player.He needs to leave from Arsenal, what to make progress.
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