Hockey

[spellbound]

Come on Canada!
Canada came on:p They won 5-4 :(

Russia won 4-0 and will play the final too!

Battle of for the Championship: Canada - Russia

Losers final: Finland - Sweden :(

[Zenitka]

Canada came on:p They won 5-4

Russia won 4-0 and will play the final too!

Battle of for the Championship: Canada - Russia

Losers final: Finland - Sweden

Cheer up!:)

Canada will win, and Sweden will win too!

1.Canada:p
2.Russia
3.Sweden:)

[spellbound]

Cheer up!:)

Canada will win, and Sweden will win too!

1.Canada:p
2.Russia
3.Sweden:)

I agree..well..
Playing Finland is always a thrill and we love to beat each other but I think, if our goalie will recover, we're the better team. We game Canada a fight right till the end last night but the better team won.:(

[Zenitka]

I agree..well..
Playing Finland is always a thrill and we love to beat each other but I think, if our goalie will recover, we're the better team. We game Canada a fight right till the end last night but the better team won.:(

Russia was lucky yesterday. Success cant always be present...:p

Good Luck Sweden! :)

[spellbound]

Russia was lucky yesterday. Success cant always be present...:p

Good Luck Sweden! :)

Youre the best!! haha You deserve a nice yellow jersey. :cool: http://62.20.67.28/trekronor/images/prodimages/400/0453500.jpg

[Zenitka]

Youre the best!! haha You deserve a nice yellow jersey. :cool: http://62.20.67.28/trekronor/images/prodimages/400/0453500.jpg
yellow is my favorite color...really:rolleyes: :p

[spellbound]

yellow is my favorite color...really:rolleyes: :p

See, you'd look great in that jersey. :p

[Zenitka]

See, you'd look great in that jersey. :p
haha :rolleyes: ;)

[spellbound]

haha :rolleyes: ;)

Its still sad we wont see the Yellow's in the final tomorrow:(

[Lawbreaker1944]

Playing Finland is always a thrill and we love to beat each other but I think, if our goalie will recover, we're the better team.

What happened to your goalie?? I saw only 2/3 of that game, because when it was 5:3 after the second period, I was almost sure Canada will procede to the final..

[spellbound]

What happened to your goalie?? I saw only 2/3 of that game, because when it was 5:3 after the second period, I was almost sure Canada will procede to the final..

He got fatigue and was asking the coach to be replaced. He told he was feeling exhausted after only 10 minutes in the first period. He have been on painkillers and shots to keep him going coz he's been struggling with knee injuries and because of this he's not been able to work out between the games. Thats why Tellqvist was playing the 3rd period.

Henrik Lundqvist had a few (3 if u ask me) soft goals which he fully fit and in shape saves. But we didnt lose because of him. We got to the semi because of him and lost the semi because Canada have a better team. Still, we gave them a battle and many was surprised how quiet the crowd was. They were not their extra player in the game last night.

[Zenitka]

Still, we gave them a battle and many was surprised how quiet the crowd was. They were not their extra player in the game last night.

yeah...good job!

"extra player" was silent yesterday?:eek:
Canadians are strange people. :D

[Lawbreaker1944]

He got fatigue and was asking the coach to be replaced. He told he was feeling exhausted after only 10 minutes in the first period. He have been on painkillers and shots to keep him going coz he's been struggling with knee injuries and because of this he's not been able to work out between the games. Thats why Tellqvist was playing the 3rd period.

Henrik Lundqvist had a few (3 if u ask me) soft goals which he fully fit and in shape saves. But we didnt lose because of him. We got to the semi because of him and lost the semi because Canada have a better team. Still, we gave them a battle and many was surprised how quiet the crowd was. They were not their extra player in the game last night.
I still think you are able to beat Finland today, even without Lundqvist.
But I'm sorry for Henrik, he's exceptional.


Home team hasn't won Championship since 1986, it looks like curse or something. It would be very interesting final.

[spellbound]

I still think you are able to beat Finland today, even without Lundqvist.
But I'm sorry for Henrik, he's exceptional.


Home team hasn't won Championship since 1986, it looks like curse or something. It would be very interesting final.

Its not decided yet whether Lundqvist can/will play in todays game. I think the coach staff will keep this as a secret for us and Finland as long as possible. And I agree with you. Henrik Lundqvist is not just a great ice hockey player but he's a great guy too. Someone you're happy having this kind of success. He was definitly one of the major factors we won the Olympic Gold in Turin 06 for example.

Interesting fact about the host and the champions team. But a guess, if the WC had been held a bit more often in Canada the home team had probably won more often.:)

[Lawbreaker1944]

Interesting fact about the host and the champions team. But a guess, if the WC had been held a bit more often in Canada the home team had probably won more often.:)
Maybe you are right, but you can't say that the arranging countries were underdogs: Russia, Czech Rep (the most attended Championship of all time), Finland, Sweden...

[spellbound]

yeah...good job!

"extra player" was silent yesterday?:eek:
Canadians are strange people. :D

They said the crowd were roaring a lot before the game and during the warm up the Swedish players thought they wouldnt hear each other on the ice during the game. Throughout the game the crowd got quieter and this was just an average when it comes to the crowds. The silence a Canadian crowd at a hockey game is probably the most wonderful silence you'll hear.:D But the Canadians got the last shout :(

[spellbound]

Maybe you are right, but you can't say that the arranging countries were underdogs: Russia, Czech Rep (the most attended Championship of all time), Finland, Sweden...

You are right my friend about the major hockey nations in Europe. But its more often the Championship is hosted by a nation who wont be the champion and hardly ever play about the medals even. Austria, Switzerland (who actually got to play for the medals once), Germany, Latvia, Italy and Norway. And when you got a team on a streak its very hard to win the championship on home ice.
You won it 3 years in a row a couple of years ago coz you had a great generation of players who could play. Canada now is on a streak too.
The situation for Sweden is that we're pretty much in the hands of NHL and their play off to get a Championship winning team. So if we're unlucky all of the hot Swedes are still in the playoffs in North America we're not really in best position to win the gold at home ice.
Last time we were the host I think Slovakia won the gold beating Russia in the final.
A great hockey nation as Russia havent won the Championship since 1993. During Soviet they won too many. :p

[Lawbreaker1944]

The situation for Sweden is that we're pretty much in the hands of NHL and their play off to get a Championship winning team.

(Ice) Hockey is the only game I know which has its Championship during Play-Off in the sport's best league (NHL). It has bad effect on it. It has to be changed in some way or other.

[Lawbreaker1944]

IF I can count:

Canada 25 titles
Russia (Soviet Union) 23 titles
Czech Republic (Czechoslovakia) 11 titles
Sweden 8 titles
Slovakia (Czechoslovakia) 7 titles
USA 2 titles
Finland 1 title
Great Britain 1 title

[Zenitka]

Great Britain 1 title
:eek: :D :confused:
When it was?

[Zenitka]

They said the crowd were roaring a lot before the game and during the warm up the Swedish players thought they wouldnt hear each other on the ice during the game. Throughout the game the crowd got quieter and this was just an average when it comes to the crowds. The silence a Canadian crowd at a hockey game is probably the most wonderful silence you'll hear.:D But the Canadians got the last shout :(

They are likely deaf-mutes :p :(

[spellbound]

They are likely deaf-mutes :p :(
:eek: Not really but not a key factor as the home team had hoped for.:p

[Lawbreaker1944]

:eek: :D :confused:
When it was?
It was in 1936 in Garmisch-Partenkirchen. They beat Canada in final.

[spellbound]

IF I can count:

Canada 25 titles
Russia (Soviet Union) 23 titles
Czech Republic (Czechoslovakia) 11 titles
Sweden 8 titles
Slovakia (Czechoslovakia) 7 titles
USA 2 titles
Finland 1 title
Great Britain 1 title

Or the teams who actually won it:

Canada 25 titles
Soviet Union 22 titles (didnt the transitional period with the falling down of USSR win 1? or was it Olympics they won?....IF... Soviet Union 21 titles)
Czechoslovakia 6 titles
Sweden 8 titles
Czech Republic 5 titles
USA 2 titles
Slovakia 1 titles
Finland 1 title
Great Britain 1 title
Russia 1 title



Interesting fact about the host and the champions team. But a guess, if the WC had been held a bit more often in Canada the home team had probably won more often.:)

Here is what I found about hosting the WC:

Hostings the World Championship

9 times SWEDEN: Gävle, Gothenburg, Jönköping, Karlstad, Malmö, Södertälje, Stockholm 1949, 1954, 1963, 1969, 1970, 1981, 1989, 1995, 2002
9 SWIZERLAND: Basel, Berne, Davos, Fribourg, Geneva, Lausanne, St. Moritz, Zürich 1928, 1935, 1939, 1948, 1953, 1961, 1971, 1990, 1998
8 CZECHOSLOVAKIA: Bratislava, Prague 1933, 1938, 1947, 1959, 1972, 1978, 1985, 1992
7 GERMANY: Berlin, Cologne, Dortmund, Düsseldorf, Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Hanover, Krefeld, Munich, Nuremberg 1930, 1936, 1955, 1975, 1983, 1993, 2001
7 AUSTRIA: Innsbruck, Vienna 1930, 1964, 1967, 1977, 1987, 1996, 2005
6 FINLAND: Helsinki, Tampere, Turku 1965, 1974, 1982, 1991, 1997, 2003
4 SOVIET UNION: Moscow 1957, 1973, 1979, 1986
4 FRANCE: Chamonix, Grenoble, Paris 1924, 1930, 1951, 1968
3 USA: Colorado Springs, Lake Placid, Squaw Valley 1932, 1960, 1962
3 NORWAY: Drammen, Hamar, Lillehammer, Oslo 1952, 1958, 1999
3 ITALY: Bolzano, Canazei, Cortina, Milan 1934, 1956, 1994
2 RUSSIA: Moscow, Mytishchi, Saint Petersburg 2000, 2007
2 UK: London 1937, 1950
2 POLAND: Katowice, Krynica 1931, 1976
1 CANADA: Halifax, Québec City 2008
1 LATVIA: Riga 2006
1 CZECH REP: Ostrava and Prague 2004
1 YUGOSLAVIA: Ljubljana 1966
1 BELGIUM: Antwerp 1920 :eek:

[Zenitka]

It was in 1936 in Garmisch-Partenkirchen. They beat Canada in final.
its fantastic!:p

[Lawbreaker1944]

Or the teams who actually won it:

Canada 25 titles
Soviet Union 22 titles (didnt the transitional period with the falling down of USSR win 1? or was it Olympics they won?....IF... Soviet Union 21 titles)

Last Soviet Union WC triumph happened in 1990.
The 1993 WC did win Russian Federation (founded in 1991).

Soviets won Olympics in 1956, 1964, 1968, 1972, 1976, 1984 and 1988.


Czech Republic 5 titles
If you consider that Czech Republic exists only 15 years...:

WC:
1.st 1996, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005
2.nd 2006
3.rd 1997, 1998

Olympics:
1. 1998
3. 2006



Hostings the World Championship

9 times SWEDEN: Gävle, Gothenburg, Jönköping, Karlstad, Malmö, Södertälje, Stockholm 1949, 1954, 1963, 1969, 1970, 1981, 1989, 1995, 2002
8 CZECHOSLOVAKIA: Bratislava, Prague 1933, 1938, 1947, 1959, 1972, 1978, 1985, 1992
6 FINLAND: Helsinki, Tampere, Turku 1965, 1974, 1982, 1991, 1997, 2003
2 RUSSIA: Moscow, Mytishchi, Saint Petersburg 2000, 2007
1 CZECH REP: Ostrava and Prague 2004

More than enough chances for quality home teams to win that trophy since 1986..

[Ignatius]

I like Jarkko Ruutu and Douglas Murray and my favorit team is San Jose Sharks

[spellbound]

Henrik Lundqvist wont be playing. He wont even get dressed for tonights game. Its not sure whether team captain Kenny Jönsson can play. He missed the semi against Canada. A place for him will be kept open till the team sheet has to be handed in. Bad and sad news for Sweden:(

[Zenitka]

Henrik Lundqvist wont be playing. He wont even get dressed for tonights game. Its not sure whether team captain Kenny Jönsson can play. He missed the semi against Canada. A place for him will be kept open till the team sheet has to be handed in. Bad and sad news for Sweden:(
What a pity :(

[spellbound]

What a pity :(

But we're going to beat the Finns anyway:p
Root for us!! :D

[Zenitka]

But we're going to beat the Finns anyway:p
Root for us!! :D
Yeah! Come on Sweden!:)

[spellbound]

Yeah! Come on Sweden!:)


Yeah!!! We can always count on you. :D
I wear yellow shirt today. Do you?:p haha

[Zenitka]

Yeah!!! We can always count on you. :D
I wear yellow shirt today. Do you?:p haha

I wear red shirt :eek: It is necessary to change clothes :D

[spellbound]

I wear red shirt :eek: It is necessary to change clothes :D

LOL no...unless you were wearing blue and white :D

[Zenitka]

LOL no...unless you were wearing blue and white :D
blue skirt :D It is better to change clothes...haha

[spellbound]

blue skirt :D It is better to change clothes...haha

haha well blue and red is ok. Keep the blue skirt and put on a yellow shirt instead. GO SWEDEN ;) :cool:

[Zenitka]

haha well blue and red is ok. Keep the blue skirt and put on a yellow shirt instead. GO SWEDEN ;) :cool:
OK!
It told! it made!(Russian saying):D

Come on Sweden! You will win today!:rolleyes:

[spellbound]

OK!
It told! it made!(Russian saying):D

Come on Sweden! You will win today!:rolleyes:


Spassiba ;)

[Zenitka]

Spassiba ;)
Spasibo?haha:p
dig tack sе mycket :D
http://s5.rimg.info/f43a4fafd0c7e0ec0caad8490f17e306.gif
good sig! Vida....lol!

[spellbound]

The Czech head coach Alois Hadamczik have resigned.

I heard he never were seen as a winner. Is it true Law?

[spellbound]

Finland won the Bronze Final 4-0. Goalie Niklas Bäckström got a shutout and its a great way for the Finns to end the tournament in style. Sweden couldnt really threathen Bäckström today. When we did create chance Bäckström saved with skill and luck. Ok, we're dissapointed but should be pleased with the way our 'tipped to lose'-squad did a brilliant game against Russia, Czechsx2 and favourits Canada in the semi.

Sunday will be final day. Russia or Canada?

[Zenitka]

Russia or Canada?
Canada!

[spellbound]

Canada!

Yeah...thats my tip too.:D

[Lawbreaker1944]

http://www.russia.com/images/flag2.jpg

The Czech head coach Alois Hadamczik have resigned.

I heard he never were seen as a winner. Is it true Law?
Yes, that's naked truth. And many players didn't want to play under his wings.

The next coach should/would/might/will be Vladimir Ruzicka, which is great news for us - he has no problems with older players (actually he was our appreciated captain in Nagano 98), has winning mentality and has already won Championship as a coach in Vienna 2005.

[spellbound]

Centennial All-Star Team, featuring the six most successful players in the history of international ice hockey as voted by an expert panel.

http://www.iihf.com/typo3temp/pics/7ff190b1c0.jpg
From left: Alexander Kharlamov (son of Valeri Kharlamov), Vladislav Tretiak, Vyacheslav Fetisov, Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper, Borje Salming, Edmonton Oilers GM Kevin Lowe (on behalf of Wayne Gretzky), Igor Larionov (on behalf of Sergei Makarov), IIHF President René Fasel. Photo: IIHF/HHoF/Jukka Rautio


The six members of the All-Star Team are:

Goaltender: Vladislav Tretiak (Russia)
First Defenceman: Vyacheslav Fetisov (Russia)
Second Defenceman: Borje Salming (Sweden):)
First Winger: Valeri Kharlamov (Russia)
Second Winger: Sergei Makarov (Russia)
Centre: Wayne Gretzky (Canada)

Hm..not a bad team but are they really the best ever?:D

[Zenitka]

1. O Canada! Our home and native land!
True patriot-love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North, strong and free,
And stand on guard, O Canada,
We stand on guard for thee.

Refrain:

O Canada, glorious and free!
We stand on guard, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee!

2. O Canada! Where pines and maples grow,
Great prairies spread and lordly rivers flow,
How dear to us thy broad domain,
From East to Western Sea,
Thou land of hope for all who toil!
Thou True North, strong and free!

3. O Canada! Beneath thy shining skies
May stalwart sons and gentle maidens rise,
To keep thee steadfast through the years
From East to Western Sea,
Our own beloved native land!
Our True North, strong and free!


http://www.spomir.ru/images/consulate/28_2.jpg

hahahaha:D

[spellbound]

:cool:

[Zenitka]

:cool:
no comments?:confused: :rolleyes: :p

[Lawbreaker1944]

Canadian monkey predicted final Canada-Russia after quarterfinals. And NOW she/he predicted Russians to win the tournament.
So I'm at ease now..:D

[spellbound]

Canadian monkey predicted final Canada-Russia after quarterfinals. And NOW she/he predicted Russians to win the tournament.
So I'm at ease now..:D

Hm in football a computer pick the World Champion (Italy) and in hockey a monkey picks the winner. :D WOW!

[spellbound]

no comments?:confused: :rolleyes: :p
I got so excited to sing the Canadian National Anthem :p haha

[Zenitka]

Canadian monkey predicted final Canada-Russia after quarterfinals. And NOW she/he predicted Russians to win the tournament.
So I'm at ease now..:D
CLEVER MONKEY :D
COME ON CANADA!:rolleyes:

[Zenitka]

I got so excited to sing the Canadian National Anthem :p haha
HAHA NICE:D

[Zenitka]

Canada-Russia 3-4(OT):(

[Lawbreaker1944]

YESS! Monkey was right. Kowalchuk woke up and scored 2 vital goals. The most beautiful final in 3 years or so.
Great hockey!

[Jazz 16]

Holy Smoke, 200 posts on hockey.:eek: I didnt realise it was so popular on this forum.

[spellbound]

YESS! Monkey was right. Kowalchuk woke up and scored 2 vital goals. The most beautiful final in 3 years or so.
Great hockey!

I agree Law, a victory for ice hockey. No matter who your sympathy were for. I didnt think Russia was capable of doing his. Yes, Nabokov could win games for them but beating Canada in Canada. WOW!

Maybe Canada got strucked by the pressure of winning the gold at home. You got a point there with no host has been winning the Championship since 1986 (Soviet in Moscow).

Kovalchuk, what can you say about this guy. He's been close to useless throughout the whole tournament and look who won it for them. :D

Bykov as coach: Sure, he's won pretty much everything in Europe with Russia but thats the "friendly" money making tournaments with nothing incommon with a real tournament. In the final he's taking an early time out. Time outs were never taken during Tarasov and Tichonov's days. He stopped the bleeding with he time out. This move might won it for them in the end.

Sergei Fedorov: A player I thought was very much over the hill. He's been quiet the last few seasons playing for less hot teams since his glory days in Red Wings. When I saw him in the roster I tought he would be playing in 4th line but I must say, Fedorov really impressed me this tournament. He was hungry to win the Championship and he was one of the major contributors here. I may start to like even. Hahaha

Hat off for Russia and Bykov. Hat off for the monkey and I should be looking for some other hobby now when Ive been beaten by a monkey. HAHA

Holy Smoke, 200 posts on hockey.:eek: I didnt realise it was so popular on this forum.

Ice hockey is important Jazz :D Better check it out too ;)

[Jazz 16]

I like watching the odd game and the fights of course :D
and dont really know anything about Ice Hockey.
Am I right in thinking this is the World Championships or World cup of
hockey? I dont know as I havent read this thread :o

[spellbound]

I like watching the odd game and the fights of course :D
and dont really know anything about Ice Hockey.
Am I right in thinking this is the World Championships or World cup of
hockey? I dont know as I havent read this thread :o

Hey, a monkey predicted Russia to win the World Championship and I though Canada would win it fairly easy. So....Im one who dont know much about ice hockey either. :D

[Lawbreaker1944]

Am I right in thinking this is the World Championships or World cup of
hockey?
Yes, but Ice hockey WC's takes place every year and, unfortunately, collides with NHL Play-Off.

[Lawbreaker1944]

Holy Smoke, 200 posts on hockey.:eek: I didnt realise it was so popular on this forum.
It isn't so popular - actually only 3 members like it (1 Belorussian, 1 Swedish and 1 Czech)


Bykov as coach: Sure, he's won pretty much everything in Europe with Russia but thats the "friendly" money making tournaments with nothing incommon with a real tournament. In the final he's taking an early time out. Time outs were never taken during Tarasov and Tichonov's days. He stopped the bleeding with he time out. This move might won it for them in the end.

Absolutely - this was the most important moment because Russians hadn't played well till this time-out.


Hat off for Russia and Bykov. Hat off for the monkey and I should be looking for some other hobby now when Ive been beaten by a monkey. HAHA
You are not the only worse predictor...I read that this monkey also predicts better than Canadian experts.

[spellbound]

It isn't so popular - actually only 3 members like it (1 Belorussian, 1 Swedish and 1 Czech)


Not many interested but a fun section on the forum. Lovely to think about hockey between the United games.:D

[Zenitka]

Holy Smoke, 200 posts on hockey.:eek: I didnt realise it was so popular on this forum.
haha....
Hockey is great and interesting game for spellbound,Lawbreaker1944 and me :p

[Lawbreaker1944]

Not many interested but a fun section on the forum. Lovely to think about hockey between the United games.:D
Exactly ;)
I'm looking forward to WIHC 2009 which will be held in Switzerland.

Group A: Canada, Slovakia, Belarus, Hungary
Group B: Russia, Switzerland, Germany, France
Group C: Sweden, USA, Latvia, Austria
Group D: Finland, Czech Rep, Norway, Denmark

[Zenitka]

Exactly ;)
I'm looking forward to WIHC 2009 which will be held in Switzerland.

Group A: Canada, Slovakia, Belarus, Hungary
Group B: Russia, Switzerland, Germany, France
Group C: Sweden, USA, Latvia, Austria
Group D: Finland, Czech Rep, Norway, Denmark

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !
Oh my Belarus :(

Russia is very happy....:eek: :cool:

[spellbound]

Exactly ;)
I'm looking forward to WIHC 2009 which will be held in Switzerland.

Group A: Canada, Slovakia, Belarus, Hungary
Group B: Russia, Switzerland, Germany, France
Group C: Sweden, USA, Latvia, Austria
Group D: Finland, Czech Rep, Norway, Denmark

WOW Law, you ended up in a Nordic group. :D You face all of our neighbours.:D

[spellbound]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !
Oh my Belarus :(

Russia is very happy....:eek: :cool:

Belarus will qualify for the 2nd phase. Hungary will struggle. And if Koval will play like he did this tournament and a Mezin in good old shape there's always a chance for a QF.

Russia, well... now we have to fear them again. Or...maybe it'll go to their heads so it would be good to get them in a QF.:D

[Zenitka]

Belarus will qualify for the 2nd phase. Hungary will struggle. And if Koval will play like he did this tournament and a Mezin in good old shape there's always a chance for a QF.

Russia, well... now we have to fear them again. Or...maybe it'll go to their heads so it would be good to get them in a QF.:D
2nd phase? :eek: :confused: :(

[spellbound]

2nd phase? :eek: :confused: :(

2nd group of play. Where two groups are merged. Round two:rolleyes:

[Zenitka]

2nd group of play. Where two groups are merged. Round two:rolleyes:
I understood. Thanks :)

[spellbound]

I understood. Thanks :)

PHEW :rolleyes: :D

[spellbound]

2008 Men's World Ranking
The top 20 nations:

1 Canada 3410 +1
2 Russia 3400 +3
3 Sweden 3400 -2
4 Finland 3385 -1
5 Czech 3265 -1
6 USA 3105 +1
7 Swiss 3020 +1
8 Slovakia 2955 -2
9 Belarus 2845 0
10 Germany 2740 +1
11 Latvia 2740 -1
12 Norway 2735 +2
13 Denmark 2660 -1
14 Italy 2580 -1
15 Slovenia 2460 +3
16 Austria 2445 +1
17 Ukraine 2435 -2
18 France 2410 +1
19 Kazakhstan 2405 -3
20 Hungary 2220 +1

[Zenitka]

2008 Men's World Ranking
The top 20 nations:

1 Canada 3410 +1
2 Russia 3400 +3
3 Sweden 3400 -2

wow!Sweden were a first?:eek:
Canada is my Love!:p

[spellbound]

wow!Sweden was a first?:eek:
Canada is my Love!:p

Yes we were first. ;) WERE! lol We should be tied 2nd:p

[Zenitka]

Yes we were first. ;) WERE! lol We should be tied 2nd:p
haha
Canada should be 1th? :rolleyes: