Hockey

[TomCat]

It was the right choice for Jagr.

For 17 years he has had to deal with prejudices (sometimes ever borderline racism) and people questioning his intentions or motives. He if anyone has the right do what he feels is the right move for himself.

As a Rangers fan, I actually like it that he goes to Omsk. This way he can mentor our most prized prospect Cherepanov for a year and make sure Chere knows what to expect when he comes over to the NHL next year.

[spellbound]

Im not sure what you mean by the prejudices.

Still, I think it was the only real option for Jagr to move to Om$k to earn the money he wanted.

[TomCat]

Im not sure what you mean by the prejudices.

Still, I think it was the only real option for Jagr to move to Om$k to earn the money he wanted.

By prejudices I mean that he was a young European player in the NHL during a time when "Euro" was considered a derogatory word and hacks like Don Cherry were all over him. Not to mention Mike Milbury.

As for the Omsk deal...he said it was never about the money. He wanted respect and a 2- or 3-year deal, because he didn't want to go through free agency again.

By going to Omsk, he will be appreciated and loved the way he should be. In Washington he was told that he's a 3rd line player and a grinder. Then he went to New York, broke every Rangers scoring record, but was still bashed and ridiculed for not taking part in the shootouts, for instance.

[Lawbreaker1944]

Im not sure what you mean by the prejudices.

Still, I think it was the only real option for Jagr to move to Om$k to earn the money he wanted.
Jágr wanted 2 or 3-year deal before moving back to the Czech Republic. NHL teams offered him just 1-year deal, unlike Omsk. He knows the city, fans, his role in the team is clear...I hope he'll be successful there.

[spellbound]

Alexander Radulov signs for Salavat Yulaev in the Russian League despite he got a contract with Predators.
Thursday the NHL organization and KHL organization come to a decision to not sign players under contract when they had a meeting with IIHF. Im impressed, the agreement held for almost two days. :D

I think its about the money Radulov moves back to Russia. In Nashville he got a contract giving him $984,200 a year. Thats before tax. The contract with Salavat Yulaev gives him $13M for a three year deal. Thats 4,3 million dollar each year. And as the incing on the cake, thats tax free. With the new contract Radulov earns in the same region as the highest paid NHL players.

When I read this I got to think of our own Spartacus. What if the slave went to play with the Spaniards even if he were under contract with us? This is what Radulov do now.

Ok, this contract isnt yet confirmed and approved officially yet. But in ice hockey this havent been a problem before with the 'defectors' from Russia to NHL over the years.

[Zenitka]

Alexander Radulov signs for Salavat Yulaev in the Russian League despite he got a contract with Predators.
Thursday the NHL organization and KHL organization come to a decision to not sign players under contract when they had a meeting with IIHF. Im impressed, the agreement held for almost two days. :D

I think its about the money Radulov moves back to Russia. In Nashville he got a contract giving him $984,200 a year. Thats before tax. The contract with Salavat Yulaev gives him $13M for a three year deal. Thats 4,3 million dollar each year. And as the incing on the cake, thats tax free. With the new contract Radulov earns in the same region as the highest paid NHL players.

When I read this I got to think of our own Spartacus. What if the slave went to play with the Spaniards even if he were under contract with us? This is what Radulov do now.

Ok, this contract isnt yet confirmed and approved officially yet. But in ice hockey this havent been a problem before with the 'defectors' from Russia to NHL over the years.

Money? lol....hm...no I dont think...I think coz KHL will better league than NHL and Salavat is one of the best team here....After SKA :D :p
I think KHL will league of Europe...soon...:cool:

[Polya]

Money? lol....hm...no I dont think...I think coz KHL will better league than NHL and Salavat is one of the best team here....After SKA :D :p
I think KHL will league of Europe...soon...:cool:

Haha Zenitka...SKA is better....spellbound, Radulov is a good player. think Salavat will play good...
:)

[Zenitka]

Haha Zenitka...SKA is better....spellbound, Radulov is a good player. think Salavat will play good...:)

hm...I hope Salavat will play worse then in the last season...
Come on SKA!Come on Syshinsky!Come on Piter!
PS. Polya you are funny...:D

[moondog]

By prejudices I mean that he was a young European player in the NHL during a time when "Euro" was considered a derogatory word and hacks like Don Cherry were all over him. Not to mention Mike Milbury.

As for the Omsk deal...he said it was never about the money. He wanted respect and a 2- or 3-year deal, because he didn't want to go through free agency again.

By going to Omsk, he will be appreciated and loved the way he should be. In Washington he was told that he's a 3rd line player and a grinder. Then he went to New York, broke every Rangers scoring record, but was still bashed and ridiculed for not taking part in the shootouts, for instance.

Jagr is the laziest, most overrated and selfish player I have ever seen. His only really great years were with Pittsburgh over 15 years ago. Don Cherry is an idiot sometimes but he was right on here, and breaking Ranger scoring records is not much of a feat.

[JRDNW]

jagr just has a bad attutude. doesn't have the passion that he should

[piazza]

My hometown Red Wings shall easily retain the Stanley Cup next year with Marian Hossa added to the mix. The 29 other teams should just have a nap or something.

[Zenitka]

SKA won the tournament of name Puchkov in Petersburg.
Final
SKA(Spt)-Dinamo(Moscow) 5-1 (0-0)-(3-1)-(2-0)

1. SKA 11 points
2. Dinamo 9 points
3. AK Bars 8 points

We are the champions!Ole ole! :)

[Polya]

SKA won the tournament of name Puchkov in Petersburg.
Final
SKA(Spt)-Dinamo(Moscow) 5-1 (0-0)-(3-1)-(2-0)

1. SKA 11 points
2. Dinamo 9 points
3. AK Bars 8 points

We are the champions!Ole ole! :)


yeeeeees Zenitka! We are the champions.:rolleyes:

What about Sushinsky?he is out?:confused: :(

[Zenitka]

yeeeeees Zenitka! We are the champions.:rolleyes:

What about Sushinsky?he is out?:confused: :(

no. He's ok.

ps. nice avatar! :D

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KHL



2008-09-02

SALAVAT YULAEV Ufa - LOKOMOTIV Yaroslavl
AMUR Khabarovsk - DYNAMO Riga
METALLURG Novokuznetsk - DYNAMO Minsk
SPARTAK Moscow - ATLANT Moscow region
VITYAZ Chehov - HC MVD Moscow region

2008-09-03

TORPEDO N.Novgorod - CSKA Moscow
AMUR Khabarovsk - DYNAMO Riga
METALLURG Novokuznetsk - DYNAMO Minsk
SIBIR Novosibirsk - DYNAMO Moscow
METALLURG Magnitogorsk - SKA Saint-Petersburg
TRAKTOR Chelyabinsk - SEVERSTAL Cherepovets
AK BARS Kazan - AVANGARD Omsk Region
NEFTEKHIMIK Nizhnekamsk - BARYS Astana
LADA Tolyatti - KHIMIK Voskresensk

[spellbound]

no. He's ok.

ps. nice avatar! :D

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KHL



2008-09-02

SALAVAT YULAEV Ufa - LOKOMOTIV Yaroslavl
AMUR Khabarovsk - DYNAMO Riga
METALLURG Novokuznetsk - DYNAMO Minsk
SPARTAK Moscow - ATLANT Moscow region
VITYAZ Chehov - HC MVD Moscow region

2008-09-03

TORPEDO N.Novgorod - CSKA Moscow
AMUR Khabarovsk - DYNAMO Riga
METALLURG Novokuznetsk - DYNAMO Minsk
SIBIR Novosibirsk - DYNAMO Moscow
METALLURG Magnitogorsk - SKA Saint-Petersburg
TRAKTOR Chelyabinsk - SEVERSTAL Cherepovets
AK BARS Kazan - AVANGARD Omsk Region
NEFTEKHIMIK Nizhnekamsk - BARYS Astana
LADA Tolyatti - KHIMIK Voskresensk

Cant wait till the season starts again. :o

[Zenitka]

Cant wait till the season starts again.

yeah...I really cant.....:rolleyes:

one city, one hockey's team,one football's team,5.000.000 managers :D :cool:

All SKA fans are Zenit fans lol.:rolleyes:

[spellbound]

yeah...I really cant.....:rolleyes:

one city, one hockey's team,one football's team,5.000.000 managers :D :cool:

All SKA fans are Zenit fans lol.:rolleyes:

One team and millions of managers. That goes with every team. Look at this forum. LOL

[Zenitka]

One team and millions of managers. That goes with every team. Look at this forum. LOL
hah..yeah...;) :D

[spellbound]

hah..yeah...;) :D

Is the new signing Nils Ekman and Andreas Johansson fit to play?

[spellbound]

hah..yeah...;) :D

Is the new signing Nils Ekman and Andreas Johansson fit to play?

[Zenitka]

Is the new signing Nils Ekman and Andreas Johansson fit to play?
I dont know. :o manager will solve :rolleyes:

[spellbound]

I dont know. :o manager will solve :rolleyes:
:eek: so there's only 4.999.999 managers for SKA now? You have resigned?:rolleyes:

[Zenitka]

:eek: so there's only 4.999.999 managers for SKA now? You have resigned?:rolleyes:

haha....no..I am here now. :D but Smith is the best manager.:cool:

[spellbound]

haha....no..I am here now. :D but Smith is the best manager.:cool:

Did you know he was one of three managers for Team Sweden for a period?

He was also manager for a team in Sweden but it wasnt a very successful period.

[Zenitka]

Did you know he was one of three managers for Team Sweden for a period?

He was also manager for a team in Sweden but it wasnt a very successful period.
really? :rolleyes:

He is good manager. :cool:

[spellbound]

Ak Bars Kazan beat Jagr and his Avangard Omsk 4-2 in the first game of the season. No goals but an assist by the Czech for Avangard Omsk.

[Zenitka]

SKA 2 games 0 points.....2 lose. :(

[Lawbreaker1944]

If you are interested in today's match between Omsk and Ufa (LIVE), here's the link:

http://video.sportbox.ru/VidySporta/Hokkej/Kxl/2008-2009/v_20080912155500_avangardomskajaoblastsalavatjula

It's in perfect quality!

[Zenitka]

oh yeah...Salavat and Avangard.


SKA won 4-0 yooo! :)

[spellbound]

Whats the stats for Jagr so far?

[Lawbreaker1944]

Whats the stats for Jagr so far?
So far he's 11th overall with 10 points (7+3) from 11 matches.

He scored the fastest goal of the Kontinental Hockey League - in 38th second...and then again! in 31th second.

[spellbound]

So far he's 11th overall with 10 points (7+3) from 11 matches.

He scored the fastest goal of the Kontinental Hockey League - in 38th second...and then again! in 31th second.

Good numbers but what about the team? Whats their record so far?

[Lawbreaker1944]

First, they lost several games, kicked out their russian coach and now they are winning.

Kazaň - Omsk 4:2
Nižněkamsk - Omsk 3:1
Toljatti - Omsk 1:2
Omsk - Ufa 1:5
Omsk - Čeljabinsk 3:6
Omsk - Toljatti 5:1
Novosibirsk - Omsk 2:3 (PP)
Novokuzněck - Omsk 2:3
Chabarovsk - Omsk 0:4
Chabarovsk - Omsk 3:4


Currently they are leading their division.

[spellbound]

First, they lost several games, kicked out their russian coach and now they are winning.

Kazaň - Omsk 4:2
Nižněkamsk - Omsk 3:1
Toljatti - Omsk 1:2
Omsk - Ufa 1:5
Omsk - Čeljabinsk 3:6
Omsk - Toljatti 5:1
Novosibirsk - Omsk 2:3 (PP)
Novokuzněck - Omsk 2:3
Chabarovsk - Omsk 0:4
Chabarovsk - Omsk 3:4


Currently they are leading their division.

Thanks mate for the info. Interesting to see how both individuals and teams are doing.

[piazza]

The NHL kicks off soon, hopefully the Wings can repeat. Again.

[spellbound]

The NHL kicks off soon, hopefully the Wings can repeat. Again.

We call them Swede Wings. :D Soon there are more Swedes in Detriots jersey then in any of the teams in the Swedish League.;)

[piazza]

We call them Swede Wings. :D Soon there are more Swedes in Detriots jersey then in any of the teams in the Swedish League.;)
Lmao. Zetterberg, Holmstrom, Lidstrom, Franzen, Lilja, Samuelson and my personal favorite, Niklas Kronwall. That's 7 Swedes, and I wouldn't be shocked if I missed a couple! There's only 6 Canadians I can think of that actually get considerable ice time. Our training camp should just be somewhere in Scandinavia instead of Northern Michigan.

[spellbound]

Lmao. Zetterberg, Holmstrom, Lidstrom, Franzen, Lilja, Samuelson and my personal favorite, Niklas Kronwall. That's 7 Swedes, and I wouldn't be shocked if I missed a couple! There's only 6 Canadians I can think of that actually get considerable ice time. Our training camp should just be somewhere in Scandinavia instead of Northern Michigan.

Kronwall will be the next Lidström.

Oh and I think 4-5 young prospects are over there working their butt out to get a contract. And if Im not wrong there's one or two guys playing in the Swedish League 'on loan' from Swede Wings so it can be more Swedes wearing a Wing jersey then North Americans next season.:D

[piazza]

Kronwall will be the next Lidström.

Oh and I think 4-5 young prospects are over there working their butt out to get a contract. And if Im not wrong there's one or two guys playing in the Swedish League 'on loan' from Swede Wings so it can be more Swedes wearing a Wing jersey then North Americans next season.:D
Bring on the Swedes, I say! If Kronwall develops the offensive deftness that Lidstrom has, then he will easily be the best defenseman in the world. He was our best player in the playoffs, when he was crushing people. Him and Stuart together is a bruising duo. Not to mention if Kronwall can make passes like he did in the postseason last year to Stuart on the point with his 100mph+ slap shot, then that'll make them pretty unstoppable!

[spellbound]

Bring on the Swedes, I say! If Kronwall develops the offensive deftness that Lidstrom has, then he will easily be the best defenseman in the world. He was our best player in the playoffs, when he was crushing people. Him and Stuart together is a bruising duo. Not to mention if Kronwall can make passes like he did in the postseason last year to Stuart on the point with his 100mph+ slap shot, then that'll make them pretty unstoppable!

The day Nicklas understands how good he really is he'll change the game. :cool:

[piazza]

The day Nicklas understands how good he really is he'll change the game. :cool:
He scored 15 points in the playoffs, and almost crippled countless others; including Sidney Crosby. He is one for the ages.

[spellbound]

He scored 15 points in the playoffs, and almost crippled countless others; including Sidney Crosby. He is one for the ages.

He wasnt picked for the Turin Olympics 06 to start with but got in the squad and in the end he turned out to be our best defender after Kenny Jönsson and one of the keys to winning the gold medal. If Kenny Jönsson havent been in the team Kronwall would have gotten the Best player in the Olympics award instead.

[piazza]

He wasnt picked for the Turin Olympics 06 to start with but got in the squad and in the end he turned out to be our best defender after Kenny Jönsson and one of the keys to winning the gold medal. If Kenny Jönsson havent been in the team Kronwall would have gotten the Best player in the Olympics award instead.
He did play an outstanding game in the final v. the Fins. I think that gold medal success led to some apathy from the Swedes (i.e. our whole team) in the playoffs.

[spellbound]

He did play an outstanding game in the final v. the Fins. I think that gold medal success led to some apathy from the Swedes (i.e. our whole team) in the playoffs.

Team Sweden did benefit from that. We won the World Championship that year too.:D Kronwall was one of the gold makers.

[spellbound]

Good to see the Finnish Flash signing a 2 year deal with the Ducks.

[spellbound]

First, they lost several games, kicked out their russian coach and now they are winning.

Kazaň - Omsk 4:2
Nižněkamsk - Omsk 3:1
Toljatti - Omsk 1:2
Omsk - Ufa 1:5
Omsk - Čeljabinsk 3:6
Omsk - Toljatti 5:1
Novosibirsk - Omsk 2:3 (PP)
Novokuzněck - Omsk 2:3
Chabarovsk - Omsk 0:4
Chabarovsk - Omsk 3:4


Currently they are leading their division.

They got Wayne Flemming as their new coach? OMG!:eek:

[Lawbreaker1944]

They got Wayne Flemming as their new coach? OMG!:eek:
Yes, and they won 1st match under him 4:3, I think. Jaromir Jagr scored 2 goals.

Is there anything I should know about Wayne Flemming? :D

[spellbound]

Yes, and they won 1st match under him 4:3, I think. Jaromir Jagr scored 2 goals.

Is there anything I should know about Wayne Flemming? :D

Well...he's been a coach in the Swedish leagues and ...Hm...hes an ok coach but I didnt think he were a coach for the big boys. :cool:

[Lawbreaker1944]

Well...he's been a coach in the Swedish leagues and ...Hm...hes an ok coach but I didnt think he were a coach for the big boys. :cool:
Well, Omsk aren't a big club; without Jagr (or Ягр, if you want :D ) they are just an average team. And Jaromir doesn't have manners, so that should be ok.

[spellbound]

Nice to see some NHL action again.
YAY!

[spellbound]

Ak Bars Kazan is negotiating with Peter Forsbergs agent about a deal. Forsberg havent commented this yet whether he's ready to move east.
He's been saying earlier that if he will play it'll be in the NHL.

[spellbound]

Prospect Cherepanov Passes Away at 19

Young Russian forward was team's No. 1 pick in 2007

New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather regretfully announced today that forward Alexei Cherepanov passed away during a game in Russia on Monday evening. Cherepanov was 19 years old.

“We are extremely saddened by the tragic passing of Alexei,” said Sather. “On behalf of the New York Rangers organization, I would like to extend our deepest sympathies to his family. Alexei was an intelligent, energetic young man, with tremendous talent and an extremely bright future.”
Cherepanov appeared in 14 games with Avangard Omsk of the Continental Hockey League (KHL) this season, registering seven goals and five assists for 12 points. He ranked second on the team in goals (seven) and fourth in points (12). He also ranked third on the team with a 24.1% shooting percentage.

The 6-1, 187-pounder appeared in 106 career Russian Super League (RSL)/KHL matches with Avangard Omsk, collecting 40 goals and 29 assists for 69 points, along with 61 penalty minutes. Last season, Cherepanov established a career-high in assists (13) while finishing fourth on the club in points (28). In 2006-07, he set the RSL record for most goals by a rookie (18), eclipsing Pavel Bure’s mark (17) set in 1988-89 with the Red Army (CSKA Moscow).

With 29 points in his first season with Omsk, Cherepanov recorded more points than Pittsburgh’s Evgeni Malkin, Washington’s Alexander Ovechkin and Atlanta’s Ilya Kovalchuk each tallied in their first RSL season.

Internationally, Cherepanov represented Team Russia in several elite tournaments. Most recently, he helped lead Russia to a Bronze Medal in the 2008 U-20 World Junior Championships, tallying three goals and three assists for six points and a plus-three rating in six games. In 2007, Cherepanov earned Top Forward honors by the Directorate and was selected to the All-Tournament Team at the 2007 U-20 World Junior Championships, where he led all players in scoring with eight points (five goals and three assists) in six games and helped Team Russia capture a Silver Medal.

The Barnaul, Russia native was originally the Rangers’ first round choice, 17th overall, in the 2007 NHL Entry Draft.

http://rangers.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=386385

[spellbound]

Thousands turn out for funeral of Rangers prospect
Wednesday, 10.15.2008 / 11:10 AM / News Associated PressMOSCOW (AP) -Family, friends, teammates and thousands of fans paid their last respects Wednesday to Alexei Cherepanov, the 19-year-old rising hockey star who died after suffering heart problems during a game outside Moscow.

The cause of his death was still under investigation, federal investigators said Wednesday. A first-round draft pick for the New York Rangers, Cherepanov collapsed on the bench during a game Monday outside Moscow.

State television showed mourners in his Siberian hometown lining up on a red carpet placed on the ice in the hockey stadium of Cherepanov's team, Avangard Omsk, to lay flowers at his coffin.

Crowds of mourners followed as pallbearers carried the coffin, draped with white cloth, from the stadium to Omsk's Staro-Severnoye Cemetery, where Cherepanov was buried.

Some onlookers were so overcome with grief they had to be restrained.

"It is hard to evaluate today the depth of the loss felt by the family of Alexei, Russian sport, and the Avangard team," said Leonid Polezhayev, the governor of the Omsk region, in comments to Russian agency Regnum.

"Alexei Cherepanov wasn't only a talented athlete and a reliable comrade, he was an idol of modern youth."

Moscow regional investigators said Cherepanov apparently had chronic ischemia - a medical condition that means not enough blood gets to the heart or other organs. They have raised questions as to why the condition went undetected.

Federal investigators released a statement Wednesday saying they had ordered tests of blood and other samples to see if there was any evidence of doping. They also had questioned the manager and medical staff of Avangard as well as staff at the Vityaz stadium, where Monday's game was played, the statement said.

Meanwhile, lawmaker Pavel Krasheninnikov, who sits on the Russian Hockey Federation's supervisory council, has accused emergency workers of taking too long to respond to the call. He also complained there was no ambulance on standby for the game and no defibrillator.

nhl.com

[cmufcs]

steelers dont see any of it just follow it on teletxt

[cmufcs]

dont see any of it but follow it FLYERS RULE

[Zenitka]

R.I.P Alexei.....we will remember...:(

He was one from the best young players in the world....:(

[spellbound]

I wont make a comment on his ability but dying at 19 is way too early.

Also I got to think of all the footballers dying on the pitch...and the unproven links with medicine and painkillers.
When something like this occurs you get perspective to things that its only sport. We should keep that in mind not just the next game we watch but every game.

[spellbound]

Can't get much better than Brunnstrom's debut

Well it seems like there was plenty of substance surrounding the hype about Fabian Brunnstrom, eh?

Of course we will have to wait and see how the remainder of the season plays out, but netting a hat trick in your first NHL game is pretty high on the list of making a positive first impression.

Brunnstrom dressed for his first NHL game Wednesday night for the Dallas Stars against the Nashville Predators and scored three times in a 6-4 win. He is just the third player in NHL history to score a hat trick in his NHL debut, joining Alex Smart (1943, Montreal) and Real Cloutier (1979, Quebec).

"It made it that much better to win the game," said Brunnstrom, who skated on a line with Brad Richards and Sean Avery. "I had some really nice passes and I just tried to be in front of the net. This has been my goal since I was little, to play in the NHL, and this is just a dream come true."

"The process is going well. He played a solid game," Stars coach Dave Tippett said. "The goals are easy to see, but I was very impressed with the way that he played a pretty simple, error-free game, did what he was supposed to do and he capitalized on some chances. It's a great start for him. Again, it's not just the goals; it's the other things that he's doing out there that make you feel good about where he's come from. He's a good player and he's going to continue to improve."

Of course after such a startling first impression, Brunnstrom realizes he is going to be hard pressed for an encore.

"It's going to be tough to live up to this every night," he said. "I have to keep going to the net and working hard and doing everything I can to help this team win."
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=387169

[piazza]

The Canadians have to be the favorites in the East, since Malone and Hossa (:D) left Pittsburgh.

[spellbound]

What about Rangers? No Jagr and the team could grow as a unit. Lundqvist have new gear to help his body to last the whole season (again:D). But not cup winner though.

[piazza]

What about Rangers? No Jagr and the team could grow as a unit. Lundqvist have new gear to help his body to last the whole season (again:D). But not cup winner though.
Gomez, Naslund they made a mistake letting Shanahan go I think. I don't fear them.