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cantonasstiffcollar
16-04-2008, 12:47 PM
Having been mightily impressed by young Frazier Campbell's outing last night for Hull, it got me thinking about the last time a forward came up through the ranks and established himself in the first team. I couldn't for the life of me remember. Anyone care to enlighten me?

With both Wellbeck and Campbell impressively showcasing their respective talents this season I wonder if anyone thinks they have a realistic future within the first team? I'm sceptical after having such high hopes for Rossi (who we couldn't really claim as completely home grown). He's flying with Villareal at the moment (flying with submarines? - strange image) and I'm sure he would have got chances with us this year after Ole's retirement and Saha's ongoing injury nightmare. I just hope we don't let another fine talent slip through the net.

reddwarf
16-04-2008, 01:04 PM
Has there been one since Mark Robins?

Paul Scholes came through as a striker but was then converted into an attacking midfield player.

abojodeh
16-04-2008, 01:05 PM
fabian brandy is good and he is united class

RichardsReds
16-04-2008, 01:21 PM
Yeah it must be Scholes who was the last one.

Campbell should be given a few games at least.

futbol
16-04-2008, 01:24 PM
Yeah , campbell impressed me

akash_reds
16-04-2008, 01:45 PM
welbeck seems to be a good player after hearing all the praise you give him......campbell also seems to be good.....they should get a chance to play atleast one game...but remember campbell getting a game against chelsea last year as sub.....hope they get opprtunities

nigelchin
16-04-2008, 01:50 PM
hmmm couldnt think of any. campbell should be given his chance next season. wellback might be more for the carling cup.

yangch0000
16-04-2008, 01:56 PM
if we are to give campbell and welbeck a chance next season, we shld not be buying anymore strikers.
we would have tevez, rooney, saha(if he is still here), manucho, campbell, welbeck. that would be very enough.

NateR
16-04-2008, 02:39 PM
Having been mightily impressed by young Frazier Campbell's outing last night for Hull, it got me thinking about the last time a forward came up through the ranks and established himself in the first team. I couldn't for the life of me remember. Anyone care to enlighten me?

With both Wellbeck and Campbell impressively showcasing their respective talents this season I wonder if anyone thinks they have a realistic future within the first team? I'm sceptical after having such high hopes for Rossi (who we couldn't really claim as completely home grown). He's flying with Villareal at the moment (flying with submarines? - strange image) and I'm sure he would have got chances with us this year after Ole's retirement and Saha's ongoing injury nightmare. I just hope we don't let another fine talent slip through the net.

I thought Mark Hughes was the last striker that came up through our ranks who was actually good, or so i read. :confused:

dlan4327
16-04-2008, 02:41 PM
I know that, on these forums at least, everybody seems to be waxing lyrical about Fraiser Campbell and Danny Welbeck. I keep a rough track on Campbell and I know he's been scoring for Hull, who are currently 2nd and on track for promotion, so he's been doing great. Welbeck on the other hand I haven't heard much about so where is he? Lot's of people seem to rate him so highly so I'd like to know what you're basing that on. Not that I don't believe you, I'm just curious is all.

cantonasstiffcollar
16-04-2008, 02:49 PM
Has there been one since Mark Robins?

Paul Scholes came through as a striker but was then converted into an attacking midfield player.

Robins is a good shout but he was hardly prolific and definitely not a world beater.

I can't wait for the day when we see a forward come through the ranks as great in the position as Scholes or Giggsy are in midfield.

I thought Mark Hughes was the last striker that came up through our ranks who was actually good, or so i read. :confused:

Sparky!! How could I forget. Yeah that definitely counts.

Even more so because it gives me hope we might see Rossi return ala the Welsh dragon. I'm pretty sure there was a clause in his contract saying we had first dibs if he gets sold, although I might be making that up.

Stephen
16-04-2008, 05:39 PM
Robins is a good shout but he was hardly prolific and definitely not a world beater.

I can't wait for the day when we see a forward come through the ranks as great in the position as Scholes or Giggsy are in midfield.



Sparky!! How could I forget. Yeah that definitely counts.

Even more so because it gives me hope we might see Rossi return ala the Welsh dragon. I'm pretty sure there was a clause in his contract saying we had first dibs if he gets sold, although I might be making that up.
There is a buy-back clause for Rossi.

Doubt Fergie will go back on his word though. Sir Alex will probably have retired, when this could be enforced though.

Although, when Rossi retires, Fergie will probably still be going strong.

I know that, on these forums at least, everybody seems to be waxing lyrical about Fraiser Campbell and Danny Welbeck. I keep a rough track on Campbell and I know he's been scoring for Hull, who are currently 2nd and on track for promotion, so he's been doing great. Welbeck on the other hand I haven't heard much about so where is he? Lot's of people seem to rate him so highly so I'd like to know what you're basing that on. Not that I don't believe you, I'm just curious is all.
Shining light in those youth and reserve teams. Miles ahead of the rest.

First team training, and substitute places. Saudi trip.

Points to a large career ahead of him.

Jazz 16
16-04-2008, 06:14 PM
Wellbeck has a great chance to make it, once he fills out a bit.
Even thoug he looks older he is still just 17 (I think), where as Campbell
has a few years on him at 20/21.

fazman
16-04-2008, 06:57 PM
looks like wellbeck to be honest you could say healey he is the all time euro qualifiers goalscoring record holder . Other than that mark hughes

RichardsReds
16-04-2008, 07:24 PM
Maybe we should loan them out and sign someone absolutely Brilliant though and push to win more games and more competitions!

marty davidson
16-04-2008, 07:26 PM
can not judge him the championship

fazman
16-04-2008, 07:53 PM
can not judge him the championship

yeh but he would have better supply at united so maybe he can score loads of goals

jd_united
16-04-2008, 09:28 PM
It is difficult for a striker to break through into the United first team, because they have no real time to bed in. As soon as they are put onto the picth, fans and pundits expect goals. It is probably easier for a defender or midfieler to be introduced to first team action, because there is not as much pressure on them. Welbeck is showing a lot of promise for a 17 year old, but as the old saying goes, you can't make a career on potential.

geoffraffe
16-04-2008, 11:14 PM
Welbeck plays in the reserves, having been promoted there by Sir Alex, after his imense displays in the youths. He's a tall lad, a bit gangly and looks like he's just strolling around the park but don't let that fool you, he's lethal. He's got power, amazing pace and is very, very skillful. Any time I've watched a reserve, or youth game, he comands the front line, menacing the defenders and scrores very often. He looks the part alright He's a bit like Kanu, if you're looking for a comparason

pass_me_a_rizla
16-04-2008, 11:27 PM
I'd like to see Welbeck and Frazer go on loan together to forge a prolific partnership. I'd like them two to be given chances next season, last 20mins of a match, bring off Rooney and Tevez bring on Frazer and Welbeck.. Frazer is quick and a reasonably good finisher, Welbeck is likt ehw wide player who l;oves coming from wide and cutting in. also not a bad finsiher..
together they'd forge an effective partnership...

Maybe, we could flog Campell to Spary in exchange for Santa Cruz?

carlyluvsunited
17-04-2008, 01:21 AM
Did anyone see Campbell win the
penalty for Hull last night ?

He is as strong as an ox !! The
guy was trying to pull him over
and spin him off the ball at the
same time - and Campbell forced
his way past him, just going down
at the last second !! Finally he
did lose his balance but it took a
huge effort to stop him.

He has had some brilliant finishing
too with a few of the goals he has
scored for Hull ... :eek:

One to watch ... for sure ... ;)

I don't remember any strikers
coming through the academy
with United ... :o

RedForceRising
17-04-2008, 03:06 AM
Mark Hughes is the last striker worth mentioning to come through the academy.

The current coaching staff have very high hopes for Denny Wellbeck though and the boy certainly looks promising. His goal against Newcastle in the reserves was particularly nice.


Like other posters here have mentioned, I hope Campbell and me will be given a chancy by Fergie on a regular basis to develop. Especially next season when a manager can name 7 substitutes on the bench instead of the current 5.

It would allow Fergie to include some of the younger players and if you are cruising against the opposition give the young players a chance to strut their stuff.

spellbound
18-04-2008, 09:32 PM
Why cant we produce a top striker?? There's been guys to look up to during the last 10 years or so. Cantona, Ole, Yorke, Cole and Ruud to name a few. Is the demands too high on our strikers??

Natalie
18-04-2008, 09:35 PM
if we are to give campbell and welbeck a chance next season, we shld not be buying anymore strikers.
we would have tevez, rooney, saha(if he is still here), manucho, campbell, welbeck. that would be very enough.
personlly i couldn't see us buying a new striker in after manucho
thats not the way fergie goes about his bussiness he like to give what hes got a chance

sweet fa
19-04-2008, 04:15 PM
mark hughes is the only striker that has come thru the ranks and made a big impression at utd in the last 25 years.
whiteside and scholes also came thru but both of these were moved into midfield ,its a little sad really that such a big club cannot produce a top quality striker from our own acadamy.i can't wait for the day when the next utd made striker comes thru and conquers just like sparky did all those years ago.

Zense_United
12-08-2008, 10:04 AM
Rossi is excellent in spain same to forlan ( i think so )

sweet fa
12-08-2008, 12:45 PM
Rossi is excellent in spain same to forlan ( i think so )


utd bought them players off other teams ,to produce means train them from children until they reach the promised land.