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28-03-2008, 02:31 PM
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#1 | | World Cup Winner
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| FIFA 09 Wishlist Lets make a wishlist for the new aspects of gameplay in FIFA 09.
This forum could write a letter to the makers of Fifa Soccer Series to give them ideas to make th game better. Feedback and Suggestions. Please Give Me a list of things could note so Far i have come up with:
● International Career Modes.
● Mid-Season Loan Outs&Ins.
● More accurate Game play.
● Create Stadiums.
● create new Kits after your contract runs out
(e.g. Colour , Sponsors, Makes & possibly badges. )
Ill keep adding my suggestions and ideas from other places.
FIFA Series : Its recognized by FIFA , It has good game play. Slight areas of improvement could make it the best.
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28-03-2008, 02:50 PM
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#2 | | Indispensible to the Club
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| euro2008 is out soon!!.....supposed 2 be a very very good game....like an updated fifa with better player reactions, and all types of weather......
this will keep me happy until fifa 09, but what i want most from fifa 09 really is more stadiums, and to just build on what is a brilliant footballing engine already!
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| The inclusion of Ebbsfleet United!
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Have a TV company sponsor the game to make it feel more like you’re watching a match on TV (Sky Sports , Setanta , maybe ESPN) although don't overuse the TV companies name or make it too commercial (e.g. "Setanta Sports' FiFa 2009") But please don't have a made up TV company like EA Sports TV , the EA Sports Boots are bad enough).
More Competitions
- World Cup
- European Championships
- Copa America
- African Cup of Nations
- World Club Championships
- Champions League (Not EEC)
- UEFA Cup (Not EFA)
- Copa Libertadores
Better Commentary
- This is hard to explain but say if there is a shot that is narrowly wide have the commentator stop what he is saying and go "Oooooooh" or something. In FiFa 20008 he says all the build up and by the time he comments on the shot the GK has already taken the kick out.
Add a third commentator and switch between him and Andy Gray throughout the season, this would give the game more variety
Commentators should Mention
- Players form
- Milestones
- League Positions
- Birthdays
- Job Pressure
- League Positions Before + After Match
More time to complete transfers during Pre-Season
Proper Training Mode
3D fans
Make editing formations less fiddly (in PES all you have to do is click and drag , no saving is involved)
Ability to Create a Stadium
Ranked Be a Pro mode
Be A Pro mode with player Transfers. If I play well big clubs could offer me a contract ? Conversly If I dont , send me to a lower league team....
More even distribution of International teams, FiFa 2008 has loads of European countries but barely any from anywhere else. Fifa 06 WC has more teams.
Be able to take hard low shots not just placed ones.
Create a team
Snow weather conditions
Fans go crazy if a late winner/equaliser is scored & In Derby games
Be able to play music from your hard drive not cheesy Euro-Pop
Photo-Realistic Managers on side-line
More goal celebrations PES has over 70
Unlimited amount of stats available for created players
More Stadiums
-City of Manchester Stadium
- Santiago Bernabeu
- Croke Park
- Maracana
- Parkhead
- Fenerbahçe Sükrü Saracoglu Stadi
- Estadio do Dragao
- Estadio José Alvalade
- Amsterdam ArenA
- Luzhniki Stadion (With Noticeable Artificial Turf)
- Soccer City Stadium (SA 2010)
- King Senzangakhona Stadium (SA 2010)
More Leagues
- Argentine
- Greek
- Russian
- Ukrainian
- Bulgarian
- Romanian
- Qatari
4th Official (cut-scenes)
Player, Young Player and Manager of the Month awards.
In Manager Mode be able to have more than one scout. Well, it happens in real life.
Real schedules for league games. (This was in FiFa a few years back but has seemed to have disappeared)
Player requires stretcher or medical car after a serious injury. (Cut Scenes)
Add best teams from minor footballing nations into Rest of World section
Be able to see substitutes warming up + interacting with departing player
In Manager Mode, If you are doing well other clubs offer you jobs. Not just 'Quitting'.
Fix minor mistakes, Community Shield being played at home teams ground etc.
Be able to bring GK up for corners in any situation. Maybe even 3-1 down ?
Weather effects ball physics
Licensed GK gloves (Uhlsport, Reusch, Adidas)
Club Mascots
Child Mascots at start of game (Along with players)
Ball Boys and Cameramen that move
Be able to use USB camera to put your face in the game
More Generic stadiums
Longer Pre-Match scenes
Goal of the Month award
World Player of the Year & European Player of the Year
A few of the best U-21 countries, England, Argentina, Nigeria etc.
In Manager Mode play one day at a time
Be able to stop + start when taking a penalty kick, like C.Ronaldo
More injuries, some club teams have most of their 1st team missing
Crowd wear club colours
Real advertising hoardings, not just other EA games
Pre Season Friendlies and Tournaments
Be able to do 'dances' on the goal-line with the goalie , like in FiFa WC 06.
Show player holding head etc. after a PK miss.
Show all the players in a line on the half way line before a shoot-out.
Show the player walking up the pitch with the ball in a shoot-out.
Have real looking screen animations (e.g. after goals show score + scorers along bottom).
Ability to wear gloves but have short sleeves (Steven Pienaar)
Be able to pick a commentary name for created players
Fans boo + whistle at:
i)Former Players
ii)Players who injured one of their players
iii)Players who caused one of their players to get sent off
Different kinds of cheering/atmospheres for different teams (Portsmouth , Spanish or Turkish Teams.)
No cut scenes for bookings or goal kicks.
Stadium effects (Confetti, Flares, Mexican Waves etc.)
Be able to save replays straight to your hard drive. We could share in Forums
Real sponsors in Manager Mode
Be able to take Penalties with GK (Rogerio Ceni)
Break down appearance and goal stats into League, Cup, Euro etc.
If you are winning by a narrow margin against a big team and your GK catches a cross late in the game you should be able to go to ground and waste a few seconds of time
Integrate Rumble features (Hitting the Post, Crunching tackles etc.)
Player Exchange deals in Manager Mode. Swap deals and 2 players swap for a star one.
In Manager Mode pay player wages weekly, not after every match
Trophy presentations after winning a league or cup
Have Home and Away GK jerseys
Mud Stains appear if player falls down on a wet day (This was in FiFa 2004 I think)
Longer time to complete transfers when you start a new Manager Mode
Don’t have 3rd kits as unlockable extras, they should be available from the start
Have 3rd kits for most teams
Delayed offside decisions, The players all celebrate until they notice the Linesman’s flag
Real + Photo-realistic Referees
2 Player Arena Mode [Like NBA 08]
Be able to mix + match kits (Manchester United wear either black, white or red shorts when they are wearing their red jersey)
More Camera Angles (Broadcast, Bird’s Eye)
Much More Player traits (Football Manager 08 has over 50)
Be able to wear neck-warmers (Rolando Bianchi, Manchester City)
Club Personalities e.g. Arsenal like to play the ball short and slowly build up attacks but Bolton Wanderers play long balls up to a target man
In Manager Mode, be able to compare one of your players with a transfer target
Have different size pitch dimension (Emirates Stadium is very wide but Div 2 England is short and narrow)
If your team is losing late in the game you are showed cut-scenes of fans leaving the stadium
Don’t have the defenders congratulating the forward after a goal, this is unrealistic
Louder SFX (Ball hitting post/hoardings, net rippling)
More personalized menus, In FiFa 2004 the background was of your favourite teams jersey
Lots more multiple choice questions in Manager Mode, after 1 season you seem to be getting the same ones again and again
In Manager Mode you should be able to find out info about teams in other leagues
Be able to pick a vice-captain
Be able to pick what players go into the box for corners (Like PES)
If a player is injured for 5 weeks you should be able to play him after 4 weeks but he risks further injury
Goalkeeper occasionally wears a baseball cap if it is a sunny day
Be able to call a player short when taking a free kick
When crossing a free kick have one of your players run over the ball thus disorganising the other teams defence
When defending a free kick choose what action your wall carries out
Players dive in front of the ball if a close range shot is taken in a crowded penalty area
Goal Updates go across the bottom of the screen and fans cheer if a rival team concede a goal.
Fans boo loudly at the end of a game that you have performed badly in
Be able to just play a penalty shootout without going through a whole match |
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28-03-2008, 03:20 PM
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#5 | | Top Goalscorer | OMG, that list is long... but it has some great things in it 
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28-03-2008, 05:49 PM
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#6 | | New Signing
Join Date: Mar 2008
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| The fans HAVE to be improved they just seem so boring, allthough all of the things said aboce would be great if added to the game but then how long would the game take to load?, remember we dont want our consoles overheating do we? |
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28-03-2008, 06:19 PM
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#7 | | Hot Prospect
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cambridge Age: 17
Posts: 89
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by futbol letsplayfifa.tv
Have a TV company sponsor the game to make it feel more like you’re watching a match on TV (Sky Sports , Setanta , maybe ESPN) although don't overuse the TV companies name or make it too commercial (e.g. "Setanta Sports' FiFa 2009") But please don't have a made up TV company like EA Sports TV , the EA Sports Boots are bad enough).
More Competitions
- World Cup
- European Championships
- Copa America
- African Cup of Nations
- World Club Championships
- Champions League (Not EEC)
- UEFA Cup (Not EFA)
- Copa Libertadores
Better Commentary
- This is hard to explain but say if there is a shot that is narrowly wide have the commentator stop what he is saying and go "Oooooooh" or something. In FiFa 20008 he says all the build up and by the time he comments on the shot the GK has already taken the kick out.
Add a third commentator and switch between him and Andy Gray throughout the season, this would give the game more variety
Commentators should Mention
- Players form
- Milestones
- League Positions
- Birthdays
- Job Pressure
- League Positions Before + After Match
More time to complete transfers during Pre-Season
Proper Training Mode
3D fans
Make editing formations less fiddly (in PES all you have to do is click and drag , no saving is involved)
Ability to Create a Stadium
Ranked Be a Pro mode
Be A Pro mode with player Transfers. If I play well big clubs could offer me a contract ? Conversly If I dont , send me to a lower league team....
More even distribution of International teams, FiFa 2008 has loads of European countries but barely any from anywhere else. Fifa 06 WC has more teams.
Be able to take hard low shots not just placed ones.
Create a team
Snow weather conditions
Fans go crazy if a late winner/equaliser is scored & In Derby games
Be able to play music from your hard drive not cheesy Euro-Pop
Photo-Realistic Managers on side-line
More goal celebrations PES has over 70
Unlimited amount of stats available for created players
More Stadiums
-City of Manchester Stadium
- Santiago Bernabeu
- Croke Park
- Maracana
- Parkhead
- Fenerbahçe Sükrü Saracoglu Stadi
- Estadio do Dragao
- Estadio José Alvalade
- Amsterdam ArenA
- Luzhniki Stadion (With Noticeable Artificial Turf)
- Soccer City Stadium (SA 2010)
- King Senzangakhona Stadium (SA 2010)
More Leagues
- Argentine
- Greek
- Russian
- Ukrainian
- Bulgarian
- Romanian
- Qatari
4th Official (cut-scenes)
Player, Young Player and Manager of the Month awards.
In Manager Mode be able to have more than one scout. Well, it happens in real life.
Real schedules for league games. (This was in FiFa a few years back but has seemed to have disappeared)
Player requires stretcher or medical car after a serious injury. (Cut Scenes)
Add best teams from minor footballing nations into Rest of World section
Be able to see substitutes warming up + interacting with departing player
In Manager Mode, If you are doing well other clubs offer you jobs. Not just 'Quitting'.
Fix minor mistakes, Community Shield being played at home teams ground etc.
Be able to bring GK up for corners in any situation. Maybe even 3-1 down ?
Weather effects ball physics
Licensed GK gloves (Uhlsport, Reusch, Adidas)
Club Mascots
Child Mascots at start of game (Along with players)
Ball Boys and Cameramen that move
Be able to use USB camera to put your face in the game
More Generic stadiums
Longer Pre-Match scenes
Goal of the Month award
World Player of the Year & European Player of the Year
A few of the best U-21 countries, England, Argentina, Nigeria etc.
In Manager Mode play one day at a time
Be able to stop + start when taking a penalty kick, like C.Ronaldo
More injuries, some club teams have most of their 1st team missing
Crowd wear club colours
Real advertising hoardings, not just other EA games
Pre Season Friendlies and Tournaments
Be able to do 'dances' on the goal-line with the goalie , like in FiFa WC 06.
Show player holding head etc. after a PK miss.
Show all the players in a line on the half way line before a shoot-out.
Show the player walking up the pitch with the ball in a shoot-out.
Have real looking screen animations (e.g. after goals show score + scorers along bottom).
Ability to wear gloves but have short sleeves (Steven Pienaar)
Be able to pick a commentary name for created players
Fans boo + whistle at:
i)Former Players
ii)Players who injured one of their players
iii)Players who caused one of their players to get sent off
Different kinds of cheering/atmospheres for different teams (Portsmouth , Spanish or Turkish Teams.)
No cut scenes for bookings or goal kicks.
Stadium effects (Confetti, Flares, Mexican Waves etc.)
Be able to save replays straight to your hard drive. We could share in Forums
Real sponsors in Manager Mode
Be able to take Penalties with GK (Rogerio Ceni)
Break down appearance and goal stats into League, Cup, Euro etc.
If you are winning by a narrow margin against a big team and your GK catches a cross late in the game you should be able to go to ground and waste a few seconds of time
Integrate Rumble features (Hitting the Post, Crunching tackles etc.)
Player Exchange deals in Manager Mode. Swap deals and 2 players swap for a star one.
In Manager Mode pay player wages weekly, not after every match
Trophy presentations after winning a league or cup
Have Home and Away GK jerseys
Mud Stains appear if player falls down on a wet day (This was in FiFa 2004 I think)
Longer time to complete transfers when you start a new Manager Mode
Don’t have 3rd kits as unlockable extras, they should be available from the start
Have 3rd kits for most teams
Delayed offside decisions, The players all celebrate until they notice the Linesman’s flag
Real + Photo-realistic Referees
2 Player Arena Mode [Like NBA 08]
Be able to mix + match kits (Manchester United wear either black, white or red shorts when they are wearing their red jersey)
More Camera Angles (Broadcast, Bird’s Eye)
Much More Player traits (Football Manager 08 has over 50)
Be able to wear neck-warmers (Rolando Bianchi, Manchester City)
Club Personalities e.g. Arsenal like to play the ball short and slowly build up attacks but Bolton Wanderers play long balls up to a target man
In Manager Mode, be able to compare one of your players with a transfer target
Have different size pitch dimension (Emirates Stadium is very wide but Div 2 England is short and narrow)
If your team is losing late in the game you are showed cut-scenes of fans leaving the stadium
Don’t have the defenders congratulating the forward after a goal, this is unrealistic
Louder SFX (Ball hitting post/hoardings, net rippling)
More personalized menus, In FiFa 2004 the background was of your favourite teams jersey
Lots more multiple choice questions in Manager Mode, after 1 season you seem to be getting the same ones again and again
In Manager Mode you should be able to find out info about teams in other leagues
Be able to pick a vice-captain
Be able to pick what players go into the box for corners (Like PES)
If a player is injured for 5 weeks you should be able to play him after 4 weeks but he risks further injury
Goalkeeper occasionally wears a baseball cap if it is a sunny day
Be able to call a player short when taking a free kick
When crossing a free kick have one of your players run over the ball thus disorganising the other teams defence
When defending a free kick choose what action your wall carries out
Players dive in front of the ball if a close range shot is taken in a crowded penalty area
Goal Updates go across the bottom of the screen and fans cheer if a rival team concede a goal.
Fans boo loudly at the end of a game that you have performed badly in
Be able to just play a penalty shootout without going through a whole match |
Ok so your not asking for much then
Great list though and i agree on pretty much everything there!
Soo as they say... "Yeah what he said" 
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28-03-2008, 06:53 PM
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#8 | | Super Moderator Head Of UEFA | Crikey Futbol  I think you play far too many computer games....
Go out and play the real thing, its more fun honest  |
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28-03-2008, 07:51 PM
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#9 | | World Cup Winner
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Location Location! Age: 17
Posts: 4,286
vCash: 100
|  at Futbol's list 
I don't play consoles anymore, not since I was around 14, but my brother has a PS3 so I might rent Fifa and PES to see what all the buzz is about!!! |
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29-03-2008, 07:13 AM
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#10 | | World Cup Winner
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Melbourne Age: 17
Posts: 1,585
vCash: 5593
| Quote: | Originally Posted by futbol letsplayfifa.tv
Have a TV company sponsor the game to make it feel more like you’re watching a match on TV (Sky Sports , Setanta , maybe ESPN) although don't overuse the TV companies name or make it too commercial (e.g. "Setanta Sports' FiFa 2009") But please don't have a made up TV company like EA Sports TV , the EA Sports Boots are bad enough).
More Competitions
- World Cup
- European Championships
- Copa America
- African Cup of Nations
- World Club Championships
- Champions League (Not EEC)
- UEFA Cup (Not EFA)
- Copa Libertadores
Better Commentary
- This is hard to explain but say if there is a shot that is narrowly wide have the commentator stop what he is saying and go "Oooooooh" or something. In FiFa 20008 he says all the build up and by the time he comments on the shot the GK has already taken the kick out.
Add a third commentator and switch between him and Andy Gray throughout the season, this would give the game more variety
Commentators should Mention
- Players form
- Milestones
- League Positions
- Birthdays
- Job Pressure
- League Positions Before + After Match
More time to complete transfers during Pre-Season
Proper Training Mode
3D fans
Make editing formations less fiddly (in PES all you have to do is click and drag , no saving is involved)
Ability to Create a Stadium
Ranked Be a Pro mode
Be A Pro mode with player Transfers. If I play well big clubs could offer me a contract ? Conversly If I dont , send me to a lower league team....
More even distribution of International teams, FiFa 2008 has loads of European countries but barely any from anywhere else. Fifa 06 WC has more teams.
Be able to take hard low shots not just placed ones.
Create a team
Snow weather conditions
Fans go crazy if a late winner/equaliser is scored & In Derby games
Be able to play music from your hard drive not cheesy Euro-Pop
Photo-Realistic Managers on side-line
More goal celebrations PES has over 70
Unlimited amount of stats available for created players
More Stadiums
-City of Manchester Stadium
- Santiago Bernabeu
- Croke Park
- Maracana
- Parkhead
- Fenerbahçe Sükrü Saracoglu Stadi
- Estadio do Dragao
- Estadio José Alvalade
- Amsterdam ArenA
- Luzhniki Stadion (With Noticeable Artificial Turf)
- Soccer City Stadium (SA 2010)
- King Senzangakhona Stadium (SA 2010)
More Leagues
- Argentine
- Greek
- Russian
- Ukrainian
- Bulgarian
- Romanian
- Qatari
4th Official (cut-scenes)
Player, Young Player and Manager of the Month awards.
In Manager Mode be able to have more than one scout. Well, it happens in real life.
Real schedules for league games. (This was in FiFa a few years back but has seemed to have disappeared)
Player requires stretcher or medical car after a serious injury. (Cut Scenes)
Add best teams from minor footballing nations into Rest of World section
Be able to see substitutes warming up + interacting with departing player
In Manager Mode, If you are doing well other clubs offer you jobs. Not just 'Quitting'.
Fix minor mistakes, Community Shield being played at home teams ground etc.
Be able to bring GK up for corners in any situation. Maybe even 3-1 down ?
Weather effects ball physics
Licensed GK gloves (Uhlsport, Reusch, Adidas)
Club Mascots
Child Mascots at start of game (Along with players)
Ball Boys and Cameramen that move
Be able to use USB camera to put your face in the game
More Generic stadiums
Longer Pre-Match scenes
Goal of the Month award
World Player of the Year & European Player of the Year
A few of the best U-21 countries, England, Argentina, Nigeria etc.
In Manager Mode play one day at a time
Be able to stop + start when taking a penalty kick, like C.Ronaldo
More injuries, some club teams have most of their 1st team missing
Crowd wear club colours
Real advertising hoardings, not just other EA games
Pre Season Friendlies and Tournaments
Be able to do 'dances' on the goal-line with the goalie , like in FiFa WC 06.
Show player holding head etc. after a PK miss.
Show all the players in a line on the half way line before a shoot-out.
Show the player walking up the pitch with the ball in a shoot-out.
Have real looking screen animations (e.g. after goals show score + scorers along bottom).
Ability to wear gloves but have short sleeves (Steven Pienaar)
Be able to pick a commentary name for created players
Fans boo + whistle at:
i)Former Players
ii)Players who injured one of their players
iii)Players who caused one of their players to get sent off
Different kinds of cheering/atmospheres for different teams (Portsmouth , Spanish or Turkish Teams.)
No cut scenes for bookings or goal kicks.
Stadium effects (Confetti, Flares, Mexican Waves etc.)
Be able to save replays straight to your hard drive. We could share in Forums
Real sponsors in Manager Mode
Be able to take Penalties with GK (Rogerio Ceni)
Break down appearance and goal stats into League, Cup, Euro etc.
If you are winning by a narrow margin against a big team and your GK catches a cross late in the game you should be able to go to ground and waste a few seconds of time
Integrate Rumble features (Hitting the Post, Crunching tackles etc.)
Player Exchange deals in Manager Mode. Swap deals and 2 players swap for a star one.
In Manager Mode pay player wages weekly, not after every match
Trophy presentations after winning a league or cup
Have Home and Away GK jerseys
Mud Stains appear if player falls down on a wet day (This was in FiFa 2004 I think)
Longer time to complete transfers when you start a new Manager Mode
Don’t have 3rd kits as unlockable extras, they should be available from the start
Have 3rd kits for most teams
Delayed offside decisions, The players all celebrate until they notice the Linesman’s flag
Real + Photo-realistic Referees
2 Player Arena Mode [Like NBA 08]
Be able to mix + match kits (Manchester United wear either black, white or red shorts when they are wearing their red jersey)
More Camera Angles (Broadcast, Bird’s Eye)
Much More Player traits (Football Manager 08 has over 50)
Be able to wear neck-warmers (Rolando Bianchi, Manchester City)
Club Personalities e.g. Arsenal like to play the ball short and slowly build up attacks but Bolton Wanderers play long balls up to a target man
In Manager Mode, be able to compare one of your players with a transfer target
Have different size pitch dimension (Emirates Stadium is very wide but Div 2 England is short and narrow)
If your team is losing late in the game you are showed cut-scenes of fans leaving the stadium
Don’t have the defenders congratulating the forward after a goal, this is unrealistic
Louder SFX (Ball hitting post/hoardings, net rippling)
More personalized menus, In FiFa 2004 the background was of your favourite teams jersey
Lots more multiple choice questions in Manager Mode, after 1 season you seem to be getting the same ones again and again
In Manager Mode you should be able to find out info about teams in other leagues
Be able to pick a vice-captain
Be able to pick what players go into the box for corners (Like PES)
If a player is injured for 5 weeks you should be able to play him after 4 weeks but he risks further injury
Goalkeeper occasionally wears a baseball cap if it is a sunny day
Be able to call a player short when taking a free kick
When crossing a free kick have one of your players run over the ball thus disorganising the other teams defence
When defending a free kick choose what action your wall carries out
Players dive in front of the ball if a close range shot is taken in a crowded penalty area
Goal Updates go across the bottom of the screen and fans cheer if a rival team concede a goal.
Fans boo loudly at the end of a game that you have performed badly in
Be able to just play a penalty shootout without going through a whole match |
No really this list is exactly what the game needs! It will be one of the best games ever if they can include all this. I really want better fans...they haven't like changed the fans since 2002...they look awful so 3D fans is a must...the booing and sound affects of fans also is a good idea. We also need more competitions and leagues which will also mean more teams and more players. I also hate the transfer system of career mode...and the finances too...just because you are bankrupt and you are undefeated which board in the world will sack you? Never! And the salary too is just so stupid. They should look into Football manager! |
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