[marty davidson]

do you think the euro would be better with england in our out of it. i think it has been better because before the tourement even starter they would have already have won it

[Stephen]

Much better with England in it.

The nation comes together as a whole.

[marty davidson]

it is better without them

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by marty davidson

it is better without them

Really, how?


From what I can make out from your opening post, you don't like the way England think they've won it before it's started?

Well, it's called a whole nation of football-minded, and non-football fans suprisingly, come together to get behind the team. England, the origin of football. Football runs through everyone's veins in this country.

England have world class players. They deserve to be at a world stage like the world cup and the Euros.

How can missing a major championships to make them qualify as the worlds best players - like Rooney, Gerrard, Owen, Hargreaves, Ferdinand, Terry, Cole and the other young players - if they aren't there?

World's best players should be playing on the worlds greatest stage.

[haggler]

thats cause you are a jealous irishman . the only time your lot ever did any good it was managed by an englishman and full of english players . you know that the english should win everything they enter and its only dodgy officials that stop us dominating every tournament . embrace the mother country like the other colonies

[sianluvsunited]

worlds best players and they dont qualify they are good individual but not team playing. my country has no world class player but a good team. i think this difference is what makes england lose. anyway we have good euro so far and no england so its ok.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by sianluvsunited

worlds best players and they dont qualify they are good individual but not team playing. my country has no world class player but a good team. i think this difference is what makes england lose. anyway we have good euro so far and no england so its ok.

Exactly. You are 100% right, Sian.

Rooney, Gerrard, Ferdinand are amongst the best players in the world. However, it is hard to accomodate them within a team. Especially that Lampard/Gerrard situation!

I like Romania. Hope they go through, although it would be tricky. Mutu is a class act.

[sianluvsunited]

adrian mutu is great player for us. he miss a penalty to make us qualify but we dont mind this. he does not do this on purpose and we have faith he will carry us past olanda in next game. if england player miss a penalty then the newspaper men give them so much heart ache and this finishes off the team altogether. this is why they have problems too.

[abojodeh]

Originally Posted by sianluvsunited

worlds best players and they dont qualify they are good individual but not team playing. my country has no world class player but a good team. i think this difference is what makes england lose. anyway we have good euro so far and no england so its ok.

having good players dont make you good team
it is about the one who leads the players
and do you call england managers a managers they are muppets
do you call england a team
do you call the racial idiot who slides on the rain a player
do you think terry is a captin
do you like to have a captin who cant stand still
-lets all lught at england-
-haha haha

[sianluvsunited]

i dont understand what you say here. what is the racial man sliding on the rain ? i dont understand any what you say sorry.