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Old 25-07-2008, 07:16 PM   #31
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no way!!!
Rio is better than Mexes
Mexes cant mark fast players
plus if Mexes is that good he would be playing with a bigger club
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Old 25-07-2008, 07:21 PM   #32
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no way!!!
Rio is better than Mexes
Mexes cant mark fast players
plus if Mexes is that good he would be playing with a bigger club
He's already said he's gonna play at Roma for the rest of his career, after Chivu left, Real Madrid, AC and Inter Milan, and Liverpool tried to buy him so he could be playing at a bigger club if he wanted to and as far as the "can't mark fast players comment" he sure did the job on the likes of Robinho (CL, round of 16), Ibrahimovic, and Pato so that's not much of a valid point.
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Old 25-07-2008, 07:23 PM   #33
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tbf Mexes is very good, but I don't think he's on the level of Rio or Nesta, I'd say he is on the '3rd tier' of defenders.
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Old 25-07-2008, 07:23 PM   #34
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so piazza you say mexes is the world best defender
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Old 25-07-2008, 07:29 PM   #35
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so piazza you say mexes is the world best defender
If you'd read my earlier posts than you'd already know that I don't rate him ahead of Vidic or Ramos. I'd still take the combo of Vida-Rio over anyone else ever unless it included Stam. I just never really rated Rio that high, I think I'm still upset over the ban that cost us the league. Overall my point is Rio's great, I'd say an 9.0 and IMO Mexès is like a 9.2
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Old 25-07-2008, 08:46 PM   #36
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If you'd read my earlier posts than you'd already know that I don't rate him ahead of Vidic or Ramos. I'd still take the combo of Vida-Rio over anyone else ever unless it included Stam. I just never really rated Rio that high, I think I'm still upset over the ban that cost us the league. Overall my point is Rio's great, I'd say an 9.0 and IMO Mexès is like a 9.2


Wow........ what are you on and where can I buy some?

Tell you what. I actually think Mexes is a very good player and so does Fergie, because he really tried to sign him, BUT to say he is better than Rio is an insult to Rio Ferdinand.

The only way I could explain this is that you either don't watch Ferdinand closely enough or just don't rate him at all.

Prior to 06/07 Rio did little to justify his price tag, but from the 06/07 season onwards he has been the best central defender in the world. I'll admit that he had a few lapses in 06/07, but he was rock solid in 07/08.

Overall the last two seasons he has been the best centre back in the world.

I don't want to rank any players, but here are some central defenders that I rate very highly:
  • Ferdinand
  • Vidic
  • Carvalho
  • Mertesacker
  • Ramos (better as a RB but also a very formidable CB)
  • Mexes
  • Nesta
  • Maldini (a few seasons ago this man was like a God)
  • Distin (just like him, always seems to play well when I saw him play at City or now at Pompey)

I also have to mention Micah Richards. This kid is a beast and had an absolute stormer against us last season. His partnership with Dunne has been good and in one or two seasons might be one of the top defenders in Europe.

Back to Ferdinand - the man is at the top of his game at the moment and since he has gotten rid of his concentration lapses, he's been the best in the business.

If you put down every trait a world-class CB needed, he has it and on top of that, he is super comfortable with the ball and can bring it forward plus pass it, instead of just hoofing it away.

Trust me, I used to be a Rio doubter, but he has proven his worth and now deserves the accolades.
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Old 25-07-2008, 09:55 PM   #37
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mexes is good at best!! Nothing more, fergie did not persue his interest in him like many other big clubs chose not to in the end and for that i am glad.

Rio has been a top 3 defender in the world for the last two seasons. Last year you could even argue him being the best. Nesta is amazing too as are some of the others mentioned.
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Old 25-07-2008, 10:32 PM   #38
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Rio has everything you'd want in a centre-back.

He's tall, agile, quick, comfortable with the ball at his feet, reads the game well, times his tackles superbly and seems to have got over the lapses in concentration that made his position as a top class defender questionable.

He's also ideal captain material - for club and country - and someone would have to come up with a very persuasive argument for me to say that he is currently not the best centre-back in the World.

Close the thread.

This post ^ has said it all basically.

About 3 or so years ago, I have to admit, I thought Rio was over-rated. His concentration was awful, he got caught out a lot and he ball watched a hell of a lot.

But in the last 2 years, that seems to have gone from his game and hes been nothing but a rock. Whether thats partly to do with Vidic I don't know, but its possible.

But there is no doubting that I think, talking about the top 5 CB's in the World, Rio is certainly first, but Vidic is also in the top 5, possibly even top 3.

Cannavaro used to be a fantastic defender imo, but age has caught up with him now.

PS: A quick point about abo's Lescott claim. Lescott isn't World Class, and hes not better than Terry or Carvalho, but he is a very good defender imo.

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Wow........ what are you on and where can I buy some?

Tell you what. I actually think Mexes is a very good player and so does Fergie, because he really tried to sign him, BUT to say he is better than Rio is an insult to Rio Ferdinand.

The only way I could explain this is that you either don't watch Ferdinand closely enough or just don't rate him at all.

Prior to 06/07 Rio did little to justify his price tag, but from the 06/07 season onwards he has been the best central defender in the world. I'll admit that he had a few lapses in 06/07, but he was rock solid in 07/08.

Overall the last two seasons he has been the best centre back in the world.

I don't want to rank any players, but here are some central defenders that I rate very highly:
  • Ferdinand
  • Vidic
  • Carvalho
  • Mertesacker
  • Ramos (better as a RB but also a very formidable CB)
  • Mexes
  • Nesta
  • Maldini (a few seasons ago this man was like a God)
  • Distin (just like him, always seems to play well when I saw him play at City or now at Pompey)

I also have to mention Micah Richards. This kid is a beast and had an absolute stormer against us last season. His partnership with Dunne has been good and in one or two seasons might be one of the top defenders in Europe.

Back to Ferdinand - the man is at the top of his game at the moment and since he has gotten rid of his concentration lapses, he's been the best in the business.

If you put down every trait a world-class CB needed, he has it and on top of that, he is super comfortable with the ball and can bring it forward plus pass it, instead of just hoofing it away.

Trust me, I used to be a Rio doubter, but he has proven his worth and now deserves the accolades.

I also strongly agree with this post.
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Old 26-07-2008, 05:03 AM   #39
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mexes is good at best!! Nothing more, fergie did not persue his interest in him like many other big clubs chose not to in the end and for that i am glad.

Rio has been a top 3 defender in the world for the last two seasons. Last year you could even argue him being the best. Nesta is amazing too as are some of the others mentioned.
Nesta is so amazing that his team struggled defensively all year and finished 5th. I already said Rio is number 3 in the world IMO. When Rio was forced to make due without Vidic and had the likes of Heinze, Silvestre and O'shea next to him, how good was he? How good was our defense as a hole? Rio is a great defender but his partnership with Nemanja has a lot to do with that, I wouldn't trade Rio for anyone in the world, because his persona and leadership help the club on the pitch as much as his partnership with our Serbian Assassin does. Rio+Vida= Best Ever but IMO individually Mexes>Rio. I don't think Mexes would be as good in Rio's spot as Rio is. I don't understand how much I've had to stress this over and over.
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Old 26-07-2008, 05:43 AM   #40
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i dont think individually Mexes>Rio
Rio is faster, have more pace, better concentration, reads the play better, and have much greater awareness
Rio used to play regular football since young age
and he featured his country for a long time
all this give him more experience
= in the end Mexes is nothing to Rio Ferdinand
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