United are raping Brazilian football.

[shiven]

SAMBA legend Carlos Alberto says Manchester United are guilty of 'raping Brazilian football'.

The 1970 World Cup-winning captain is outraged United are poaching his country's best young players before they even play for their clubs.


United have just agreed a £5.4million deal for Corinthians defender Dodo, 17, who has yet to make a single full appearance for his club.


And Alberto said: "It is disgraceful United are allowed to rape Brazilian football.


"The big teams have the money and can take our best players. It is a big problem in Brazil. The clubs cannot keep hold of them if they are good young players because they can make much more money in other countries.


"They should change the law so at least until the age of 20 or 21 the best players are playing in Brazil and get some experience before moving to Europe."


Dodo, rated the best young defender in Brazil, is half owned by Corinthians and half by third-party investment firm Traffic Football Management.


United struck a deal last year with the company giving them first option on around 120 teenage players being groomed for European football in a Sao Paulo academy.


And just like twins Fabio and Rafael, who joined United two years ago, Dodo will not have been seen by Brazilian fans by the time he joins up with United next year.

The exodus to Europe has left Brazil's domestic league bereft of star quality in a land where football offers much of the population a distraction from poverty, crime and unemployment.


Alberto has called on FIFA to stop his nation's rising stars being lured away by European superclubs.

He said: "FIFA must do something. They have an obligation to save football. If we could have conditions where we could keep these players in Brazil it would be much better for us.

"Three or four years ago clubs had to pay teams if they wanted players but now many players are owned by agents - and clubs can't afford to keep them"


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Lol, he said 'rape'

[-zuco-]

Sounds like Alan Pardew

[PeeJay]

Meh. Anderson, Rafael, Fabio, Rodrigo and Dodo have a long way
to go before they're considered anything but modern day Klebersons.

[Grif SA]

Funny. PSV bought Ronaldo when he was only 18 years old, nobody
said anything about that. Ronaldinho went to PSG at 21. Romario
and Lucio went to Europe at 22. Barcelona bought Henrique when
he was 21 years old. Madrid bought Marcello at 19 years old and
Robinho at 21. Inter bought Roberto Carlos at 22. AC Milan bought
Pato at 17, Felipe was loaned to them at 19, and Kaka at 21.
Shakhtar Donetsk got Fernandinho at 20, Jadson at 21, Ilsinho at
21, Luiz Adriano at 20, Willian at 18, and Leonardo at 19. Porto got
Diego at 19 years old, Anderson at 17, Fernando at 19, Maicon
(not Inter's) at 19, Bruno Morales at 18, Leandro Lima at 18, and
Ibson at 21.

If they're going to crucify United for purchasing young Brazilian
prospects, then they better crucify the other clubs for doing the
same thing. And that's just players that I looked up, not nearly as
much as I'm sure there are who left Brazil at a young age. Plus
who else knows what agreements other clubs have with Brazilian
teams?

[Ozblu3]

I think it'd be a good idea in principle, like platini said make kids have their first pro contrac with their home club.

so many problems associated with it though..

[TheManc]

Why is he accusing United of doing something that Spanish and Portugeeze sides have been doing for decades?

[abojodeh]

i feel like raping alberto right now

brazilian players can develop better in europe
bigger clubs have better training techniques, better coaches, better health-care, more professional training
players reach their full potential and get used to the europian football at younger age
look at most of the brazilians who didn't join a big team at their youth
they are either playing with turkish french russian and swedish leagues and the slightly better play with dutch and german teams
since the 90's 80% of the Brazilian national team players joined a europian team before turning 25
so you ******* jerk mr.carlos alberto forget all the other teams and focus on criticizing machester united

the only team that need to disallowed to sign brazilians is liverpool with cavalieri and lucas ohh god just don't let me think about it

[haggler]

Meh. Anderson, Rafael, Fabio, Rodrigo and Dodo have a long way
to go before they're considered anything but modern day Klebersons.

agree with peejay on this one entirely

[Trigwynt]

I can't sort of help feeling that the whole footballing world are "anti-British". It was clear that Platini was happy Barca won the Euro final. As TheManc said, Spanish and Portugese sides have been doing this for decades, and nothing is said. But when Utd do it, the football establishment condemn Utd.

[stretty]

well if we have raped his country of all their top talent we are extremely unlucky to get all their mediocre players besides we have never had a great brazilian player yet

[CaptainRoyKeane]

Strong words tbh, quite sickening!

[daveskimufc]

isn't "rape" a slight exageration

[Toybos]

There's been a rape up there.

[Nemanjaaa]

Who cares why would Brazilian players won't to stay and play in Brazil anyway, the football receives very little coverage compared to Europe so for them to become big known names they have to move to Europe, Europe is clearly the place to be.

[Ozblu3]

I don't like this tit, e talks rubbsh. Why does he highlight us for?. How are we whoring Brazilian football?. Does he not want Brazil to export players? Does he not want young kids earning lots of money sending it back home to improve the quality of life for the family?. Fact is that United have an agreement with an institution set up, regardless of his opinions, for football economic reasons. United are merely taking advantage that this firm has so many players under their registration. If they have a problem with the institution, then take it up with them. going into the worlds media saying "united are whoring brazilian players" is not only politically incorrect but it's also morally inconsiderate and bigoted.

fact is the clubs dont get a lot of money for young players, boys can get pinched for pennies leaving the club used and abused, or "whored". Business interest does not allow this. So private enterprise intruding football in south america may have a positive effect for the clubs involved.

Clubs still have the player services after they have sold him under the current football model. Money + 50% ownership, and a %fee from any future sell on.. The business has no conflict of interest, there's little community spirit and local love in international businesses [except from the people who started the firm]. It's a business enterprise meaning their main issue is profit. So, i ruminate that the enterprise will get a better value for money/higher money from the sale of a player. if this business works, the clubs will have money and player ownership [though in all honesty there will no doubt be a handful who try to abuse this system as corruption is omnipresent in society].. Maybe, if my thoughts are correct, in due time this set-up, if done properly with the right intentions and considerations, can give the SA clubs a better platform to negotiate with big Billion-dollar football clubs..

There is always a danger with unscrupulous businessmen trying to make a quick buck. But big firms like this in question, have too much money involved over too wide a geographical area to be considered improper/unfit for this sort of work.

Interesting...

[Ozblu3]

Who cares why would Brazilian players won't to stay and play in Brazil anyway, the football receives very little coverage compared to Europe so for them to become big known names they have to move to Europe, Europe is clearly the place to be.

Fame, fortune weather, culture, family.. it's their own country, that's why. Were the financial economics related to south american football even half as rewarding as European clubs, then there is very little reason to move countries.. Only i think for football reasons, u know trying oneself in a different league etc etc.

brazilian football is good man, don't knock it. Improve your grammar while you're on-line.. won't = will not -o. want = what do you want.. won't = won't you fix your grammar?.

[Sporting4Ever]

Funny. PSV bought Ronaldo when he was only 18 years old, nobody said anything about that. Ronaldinho went to PSG at 21. Romario and Lucio went to Europe at 22. Barcelona bought Henrique when he was 21 years old. Madrid bought Marcello at 19 years old and Robinho at 21. Inter bought Roberto Carlos at 22. AC Milan bought Pato at 17, Felipe was loaned to them at 19, and Kaka at 21. Shakhtar Donetsk got Fernandinho at 20, Jadson at 21, Ilsinho at 21, Luiz Adriano at 20, Willian at 18, and Leonardo at 19. Porto got Diego at 19 years old, Anderson at 17, Fernando at 19, Maicon (not Inter's) at 19, Bruno Morales at 18, Leandro Lima at 18, and Ibson at 21.

If they're going to crucify United for purchasing young Brazilian prospects, then they better crucify the other clubs for doing the same thing. And that's just players that I looked up, not nearly as much as I'm sure there are who left Brazil at a young age. Plus who else knows what agreements other clubs have with Brazilian teams?

Ok, 1st off, there's a law beeing discussed in FIFA and UEFA regarding banning youth abroad transfers, meaning players under 17 with no professional contracts.

That beeing said, he does have a valid point, when he points out players that have yet to play as professionals in their own club beeing tempted away to where they'll play reserve football and possibly develop worse than staying at their club for another year or two. The players you mentioned were adults, or had professional contracts already.

The fact is, it's not only United, so you can calm down on your wounded pride just because someone decided to take a shot at you.
Newsflash: United are a big club, there's always gonna be people shooting at United.

The point is, however, that we're getting into a tighter and tighter race, where NO ONE wants to loose a potential diamond. So clubs are buying younger and younger and THAT'S the problem. Ronaldo moved to United at age 18, but for example Messi as been in Barcelona since 2000. That means he moved there at 13(!!). And while these are very sucessful examples of youths moving abroad, how many ruined careers are there that we don't know about?

Why is he accusing United of doing something that Spanish and Portugeeze sides have been doing for decades?

Well, because Portugal as a special relationship with Brazil, and Spain has the same with Argentina and a few other countries, like England has with Wales, N. Ireland and Scottland.

i feel like raping alberto right now

brazilian players can develop better in europe
bigger clubs have better training techniques, better coaches, better health-care, more professional training
players reach their full potential and get used to the europian football at younger age
look at most of the brazilians who didn't join a big team at their youth
they are either playing with turkish french russian and swedish leagues and the slightly better play with dutch and german teams
since the 90's 80% of the Brazilian national team players joined a europian team before turning 25
so you ******* jerk mr.carlos alberto forget all the other teams and focus on criticizing machester united

the only team that need to disallowed to sign brazilians is liverpool with cavalieri and lucas ohh god just don't let me think about it

In order to develop, players need to play. What good is it that they are in europe, if they don't play? Besides, like I've said a few times, destroying foreign national championships will only kill the golden egg chicken, think about that too...

Who cares why would Brazilian players won't to stay and play in Brazil anyway, the football receives very little coverage compared to Europe so for them to become big known names they have to move to Europe, Europe is clearly the place to be.

Just because you don't see Brazilian football on TV doesn't mean it's low coverage. South Americans are wild about their football, and if their league starts to go south, where will the motivation for their clubs be? The clubs there need to sell to stay alive, they have cash problems left and right, but when they start selling kids that don't have professional contracts, they start to loose a lot of money, not to mention the quality of their own leagues goes down the drain as well, and with it the motivation.

South America has always been a seller's market, but it's one thing to sell adult players, of 18 and over, with at least a professional season behind them, another thing entirely is to sell kids of 17, 16 and even less.

[TheManc]

Well, because Portugal as a special relationship with Brazil, and Spain has the same with Argentina and a few other countries, like England has with Wales, N. Ireland and Scottland.

Brazil is 'friends' with those other countries.

N.Ireland, England and Scotland are basically one big island. Same laws, same prime minister ect.

[Justice]

Waaaaaaaaah its not fair. They are taking our best players to a better league before they play a season or two and become recognized as world class and cost 30million each so Brazilian clubs don't make as much money, and of course its not our fault for letting our kids go at 18 and our refusal to play them before this age, its definitely all Manchester United's fault for being rich and having a good scouting network. - Carlos Alberto

[Sporting4Ever]

Brazil is 'friends' with those other countries.

N.Ireland, England and Scotland are basically one big island. Same laws, same prime minister ect.

It's not just a friendship thing. We have special protocols regarding workers and bussinesses and trade, just like we have with Angola, Moçambique and São Tomé.

Similar to the commonwealth, I believe...