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    Old 29-06-2009, 09:23 PM   #1
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    Was veron one of the biggest ever flops
    I personIly get fed up with veron being voted as one of the biggest transfer flops ever . I personally do not think veron was a flop , i watched him play nearly every game for united and i thought he played well in most of them.
    His passing in some games was sublime the man oozed class , but as per usual in this country we only like players who run around like headless chickens.
    He was also unfortunate that united went through a transitional stage during his stay and also fergie experimented with the lone striker , which did not help.
    All in all i was gutted when he left and indeed on the preseason tour that season he was outstanding.
    I remember leaving old trafford some games and thinking god that performance by veron was worth the entrance money.
    Does anyone else feel bad when people take the piss out of him , i know i do and i have to say sometimes the pace of the game caught him out but by and large he was magnificient
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    Old 29-06-2009, 09:28 PM   #2
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    Certainly not. He was brilliant at times and he didn't perform well because his mother died, I think, and he never really recovered. Now he's back at his home club, where his father played, and is doing wonders.
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    Old 29-06-2009, 09:30 PM   #3
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    Wasn't he injured for a good while too? He had some great games for us and I remember Fergie ranting at the press about him
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    Old 29-06-2009, 09:35 PM   #4
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    But like i said in my first post that preseason tour before he left he was sublime . yet fergie sold him ?.
    He always figures in the top ten flop transfers , did these people ever see him play ,also people on this forum have said "well we dont want another veron"
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    Old 29-06-2009, 09:36 PM   #5
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    Wasn't he injured for a good while too? He had some great games for us and I remember Fergie ranting at the press about him

    Originally Posted by Carlo View Post
    yeah remember that when he said ******* idiots


    Veron was great his passing was immense and was magnificent at set-piece but he was inconstant and with many issues


    deffo not the biggest flop
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    Old 29-06-2009, 09:55 PM   #6
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    Veron was terribly unlucky , he just never seemed to fully adapt.
    he was sensational at times , i just feel the pace of the game in england never suited him , the price tag was also a factor in people saying he was a flop , at the time it was seen as an outrageous sum , nowadays its the norm.
    at that time if he had signed for Barca or Madrid people would be saying he was one of the worlds best.
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    Old 29-06-2009, 09:58 PM   #7
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    He is a genius. Just never fitted in with English football - happens often with South Americans.

    Played some great games, but just played in a team with Scholes (and Beckham) in his prime.
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    Old 29-06-2009, 10:12 PM   #8
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    he was a great player but he did flop at united. no doubt about it. just couldnt adpot to the english style of play
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    Old 29-06-2009, 10:17 PM   #9
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    Massimo Taibi he was the worst TBH i think he only played a few games

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    Old 29-06-2009, 10:23 PM   #10
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    The only reason people see him as a flop is because of his price. On the pitch he wasn't, as he had some fantastic games for us but people just automatically think of the price. There were a number of issues why he didn't perform as consistently as we would have like, but he was certainly no flop..

    It would have been interesting to see him get that one more season as he looked good that pre-season, as you said.
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    Old 29-06-2009, 10:29 PM   #11
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    we got rid of him too early ---he had some great performances towards the end -
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    Old 29-06-2009, 10:35 PM   #12
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    money aside he was brilliant he would do things in a game most players wouldnt dream of attempting for fear of embarrassment but maybe he did come at the wrong time
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    Old 29-06-2009, 10:41 PM   #13
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    YouTube - Juan Sebastian Veron superb pass to Ryan Giggs
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    Old 29-06-2009, 10:43 PM   #14
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    some players dont adapt as quickly as others,thats all.
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    Old 29-06-2009, 10:54 PM   #15
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    Problem was he had difficulty adapting to the English game. He was a brilliant footballer but we already had a class midfield in '01 of Beckham-Keane-Scholes-Giggs, and Veron found it very difficult to break into that established midfield as well as playing in the high-paced, physical Premier League. He'd have done better in Italy or Spain.

    His price tag also always detracted away from whatever he did, because it was a huge amount at the time (the then-transfer record) and everyone expected him to be truly amazing right from the start, but because he had difficulty in adapting, people immediately starting calling him not worth the money etc and his confidence must have dropped and he just couldn't find his place.

    The fact remains that he was a class player with a magnificent passing range and first tough, but for the money we paid for him he will always remain a flop because he just couldn't fit into our midfield and he wasn't worth the money at all. He was brought in to improve an already fantastic midfield, and he actually broke it up. Therefore, with hindsight, you have to say he was a mistake.
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    Old 29-06-2009, 11:18 PM   #16
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    It just didnt work out for him. He played the game beautifully though for many many years. It was a pity really but Id never call him a flop.
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    Old 29-06-2009, 11:20 PM   #17
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    He did alright, just nothing compared to what he did in Italy and nothing
    close to what would be expected of a £30mil. player.
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    Old 29-06-2009, 11:21 PM   #18
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    His through balls were amazing.
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    Old 29-06-2009, 11:30 PM   #19
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    You have to remember he was coming from an entirely different league to ours, and was played our of position here. He was used to being a Pirlo-style deep playmaker but we asked him to be a link between midfield and attack - the place on the pitch where the game is the most fast and furious. So it was hard for him and with that price tag people expected greatness instantly.

    I think we would have done well to play him in the 4 along side Keane and have Scholes playing off Van Nistelrooy
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    Old 29-06-2009, 11:32 PM   #20
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    You have to remember he was coming from an entirely different league to ours, and was played our of position here. He was used to being a Pirlo-style deep playmaker but we asked him to be a link between midfield and attack - the place on the pitch where the game is the most fast and furious. So it was hard for him and with that price tag people expected greatness instantly.

    I think we would have done well to play him in the 4 along side Keane and have Scholes playing off Van Nistelrooy

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    Personally, I adored the 4-5-1 in 01-03 - Beckham, Scholes, Keane, Veron, Giggs, Ruud.
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