[Carlo]

i think we are a very closed club. we dont like media attention, we keep a lot behind closed doors. which makes us as fans feel the heat at times like at the moment. but i think thats part of our success because we keep things behind closed doors and only let things come out on fergies say so. we are the most organized club in the world.

so thats why you dont read many reports that aint make believe about star signings because its not how fergie likes things. we are a football club - not a circus

Originally Posted by Clarky101

This +1

[migueldadon]

Manchester is a shit hole, thats why.

[Lemar91]

Manchester is a shit hole, thats why.

Originally Posted by migueldadon

Whats wrong with manchester? You ever been there?

[migueldadon]

Whats wrong with manchester? You ever been there?

Originally Posted by Lemar91

no I havent been there, but from what I've heard its definitely no Barcelona or Madrid, plus I hear the weather is shocking.

[Carlo]

Whats wrong with manchester? You ever been there?

Originally Posted by Lemar91

I was born in Manchester and lived there for 20 years. I go back every year to see my family and occasionally to see Utd when I can afford it. But I'm afraid Miguel is correct. Manchester IS a sh!thole

[Dannykilla]

If you havent been here, then you really can't comment.

Here's a question for you, why do you support a club from a shit hole, when you have no ties to the club or city ?

Also don't forget that sunny weather has the optical illusion that makes shit holes look clean and cool.

[Lemar91]

I was born in Manchester and lived there for 20 years. I go back every year to see my family and occasionally to see Utd when I can afford it. But I'm afraid Miguel is correct. Manchester IS a sh!thole

Originally Posted by Carlo

Im not saying its the nicest place in the world but i dont think its fair for someone to call manchester a shithole when they haven't even been there. There are far worse places to live and madrid isnt all that great either

[Ady87]

It's all about the weather

[PeeJay]

Im not saying its the nicest place in the world but i dont think its fair for someone to call manchester a shithole when they haven't even been there. There are far worse places to live and madrid isnt all that great either

Originally Posted by Lemar91

Excuse me?

[rydersonthestorm]

I was saying this along time ago but most people are to pro anything united to understand, we are a great club but we are not the worlds premier team that is real madrid and its hard to compete with that.

[migueldadon]

If you havent been here, then you really can't comment.

Here's a question for you, why do you support a club from a shit hole, when you have no ties to the club or city ?

Originally Posted by Dannykilla

Well, Vidic said it was a shithole, evra said it was a shithole, Zuco and carlo have mentioned its a shit hole so I can pretty much say I find them as very reliable sources. Why do I support a club from a shithole? I support the club not the ******* city, I consider my town a shithole as well and to be honest there is nowhere I would rather live, you dont have to find something beautiful to love it, and I have no problem with Manchester as a city, all I said wast that to some footballers the city is also taken into consideration when moving clubs.

[rydersonthestorm]

Well, Vidic said it was a shithole, evra said it was a shithole, Zuco and carlo have mentioned its a shit hole so I can pretty much say I find them as very reliable sources. Why do I support a club from a shithole? I support the club not the ******* city, I consider my town a shithole as well and to be honest there is nowhere I would rather live, you dont have to find something beautiful to love it, and I have no problem with Manchester as a city, all I said wast that to some footballers the city is also taken into consideration when moving clubs.

Originally Posted by migueldadon

Manchester isn't a shithole i think you are taking what people say to much at face value.

[migueldadon]

Im not saying its the nicest place in the world but i dont think its fair for someone to call manchester a shithole when they haven't even been there. There are far worse places to live and madrid isnt all that great either

Originally Posted by Lemar91

I dont have any problems with Manchester whatsoever, all im saying is that some players take that into consideration when moving clubs, and obviously Manchester cannot compete with what Barcelona, or Madrid can offer as far as the city, definitely not the club, but the city.

[Lemar91]

Excuse me?

Originally Posted by PeeJay

I've been to madrid a few times and haven't seen the attraction

[Richie]

Listen, Manchester is not a shit hole. It's a great City, with a great history, with great people living there.

And by the way Migueldadon, why do you support United just out of interest?

[migueldadon]

Manchester isn't a shithole i think you are taking what people say to much at face value.

Originally Posted by rydersonthestorm

Im just commenting on what Ive heard from various people that live or have lived in Manchester.

[Carlo]

Im not saying its the nicest place in the world but i dont think its fair for someone to call manchester a shithole when they haven't even been there. There are far worse places to live and madrid isnt all that great either

Originally Posted by Lemar91

You can hardly compare Manchester and Madrid. Manchester is a dull and gloomy industrial city. Don't get me wrong I'm still a proud Mancunian but we come from a pretty ugly city. Granted a lot has been done to improve it over the years, it's no where near as bad as it was pre 90's, but in comparison to Madrid, a city alive with culture, fashion, great weather, huge parks etc etc then Madrid wins hands down, it's a completely different lifestyle and that is what is attractive to many.
Obviously there are far worse places to live, and I know I've seen quite a lot of 'third world' and real poverty on my travels, but still, I can understand the lure of somewhere more exotic

[rydersonthestorm]

Im just commenting on what Ive heard from various people that live or have lived in Manchester.

Originally Posted by migueldadon

No you are taking comments out of context and using them as more of a fact.

[Carlo]

Manchester isn't a shithole i think you are taking what people say to much at face value.

Originally Posted by rydersonthestorm

Coming from North Wales Manchester probably seems like a paradise

[migueldadon]

Listen, Manchester is not a shit hole. It's a great City, with a great history, with great people living there.

And by the way Migueldadon, why do you support United just out of interest?

Originally Posted by Richie

I think people are making too much of a ******* deal about it, Where does it ******* say that in order to support a club you have to like the city? Where!!, ffs all I said was that I have heard from people that have gone, or live in Manchester is that its not the most attractive place to live in compared to Milan, Madrid, Barcelona etc, obviously some players take that into consideration when moving on to a different club.