[piazza]

Bro, you can find symbolism everywhere, if you look hard enough. Go watch that Jim Carrey movie.

[Carlo]

Deeper Insights Into the Illuminati Formula

[PeeJay]

Anybody that believes that Lady Gaga is a freemason deserves to be shot, let's be very honest.

The Illuminati were scientists.

[Carlo]

Freemasons are a male only society anyway aren't they?

[PeeJay]

Freemasons are a male only society anyway aren't they?

Originally Posted by Carlo

I think it varies.

The thing is; some people think there's a New World Order conspiracy and maybe there
is, but A. Lady GaGa and Jay-Z aren't among the perpetrators and B. it's not the Illuminati.

Look up the origins of the Illuminati, what do they have in common with what the Illuminati are
considered today?

But while we're on the subject, who believes in the Ronald Reagan crack conspiracy?

[Carlo]

I know the history of the Illuminati mate. The reason they are being mentioned so much is because of the Dan Brown books, which are works of fiction based on historical evidence. Plus the fact that when anyone mentions something of a potential secret society then all the usual names come out, the ones that we hear about on the TV and in the movies. The fact is there are many secret societies which we have no clue about, hence them being secret!!

[Loublaze]

No one is saying she's a freemason but who's to say its not possible? she definately endorses thier ideology by flashing thier symbols. The picture I posted above with her making the same pose as the horned beast was taken in a Masonic lodge in Los Angeles...there's dozens of pics with her on that day in the temple taking various pics full of masonic symbols. You're speaking of the original illuminati....other societies are also referred to as the illuminati because they consider themselves 'enlightened' over every one else. Above all secret societies the Masons seem to have more symbols out there. Jay-Z definately is a mason and why he doesn't just admit it is strange as they are a legitimate organisation with secrets. He wears the masonic ring with the grand architect and gives masonic handshakes ffs. His album title the blueprint is derived from masonic teaching and his 'diamond' roc sign over the left eye is a representation of the all seeing eye of horus on the pyramid. Its all too obvious

[Loublaze]

These pics were all taken in a Masonic lodge. What do the slavemasons benefit from having a pop star doing a photoshoot in thier temple? The final pic was at the MTV music awards...her whole performance was a ritual of ascension to a higher level...very reminiscant of mason rituals when ascending to a higher degree. It's the 'climb' up the 'mountain' to get to the light...enlightenment is a key word in masonic preaching. The statue of liberty has masonic origins from France and is holding a torch representing enlightement and inner light or inside higher knowldge.

[Loublaze]

Deeper Insights Into the Illuminati Formula

Originally Posted by Carlo

Great find my man! I've always been conscious of their existence but my eyes are really opening now to how deep their operation is.

[JJtheRed]

Not saying she is, but surely you can be a satanist / into the occult without being an actual 'Mason....?

This guy rips into Jay, but he won't get the coverage to make an impression......

Video: Christian Releases A Song Going In On Jay-Z, Beyonce & Rihanna! (Tired Of Seeing Hov Disrespecting Jesus) & The Boy Can Spit[Audio]



On a seperate level, how can Jay-Z seem to promote the teachings of someone so overtly racist??(Crowley)

[PeeJay]

This is a conspiracy theory, JJtheRed.

Do you think that any secret society would keep Jay-Z in its organisation while he
publicly celebrates their teachings?

[JJtheRed]

Money talks.... Jay-Z has a personal fortune of over $150m - so it's anyone's guess as to how much revenue he's generated for his labels / paymasters....

He can call himself CEO of this and Chairman of that - but he'll never ever be top of the food chain - there'll be people that he answers to and more importantly, lines the pockets of - he's a valuable comodity.

In the same way John Terry's a commodity to Chelski, which is why they put up with his numerous indescretions.



A correctly-used double-bluff is a powerful tool in the media - maybe we can't see the wood for the trees.....

[andersons_left_foot]

Perhaps its all a clever marketing ploy to appeal to people interested in these conspiracy theories who would'nt normally listen to these 'pop' artists, So now they are because they think their linked with whatever secret group, hay just a thought. Plus any buzz over the internet is bound to help isnt it.

BTW loublaze, Have you watched Zeitgeist by any chance?

[andersons_left_foot]

Oh and BTW talking about films such as Terminator and iRobot and more importantly Fritz Langs Metropolis are all films that are technophobic in value rather than glorifying or hinting towards a Robot ran future, So it could be argued that Copying the look of Metropolis could be a comment on technophobia and how they DONT want it to happen like that?

[Loublaze]

Perhaps its all a clever marketing ploy to appeal to people interested in these conspiracy theories who would'nt normally listen to these 'pop' artists, So now they are because they think their linked with whatever secret group, hay just a thought. Plus any buzz over the internet is bound to help isnt it.

BTW loublaze, Have you watched Zeitgeist by any chance?

Originally Posted by andersons_left_foot

No I haven't but seems interesting...i've found a link to watch the whole damn thing on youtube!

[andersons_left_foot]

No I haven't but seems interesting...i've found a link to watch the whole damn thing on youtube!

Originally Posted by Loublaze

Its an interesting watch, it kinda took me back when i first watched it but when you find out it was all Written, Researched and edited and voice over'ed by one man it kinda makes you feel as if its some angry man with too much time on his hands, but ill admit there are some interesting points, and ive always liked reading stuff like this.

Im interested where did you get all this stuff from, like websites and that id quite like to give it a read.

[Loublaze]

Oh and BTW talking about films such as Terminator and iRobot and more importantly Fritz Langs Metropolis are all films that are technophobic in value rather than glorifying or hinting towards a Robot ran future, So it could be argued that Copying the look of Metropolis could be a comment on technophobia and how they DONT want it to happen like that?

Originally Posted by andersons_left_foot

I think it's another double bluff...bar some really creepy horrors, most hollywood movies have a 'happy ending'. It may hint that it's against some moral issues or a certain order of things and the 'good' guys eventually overcome them but never the less the message has been transmitted either way. I think I-Robot is closer to this true agenda...it obviously attempts to humanise the machines...and at the end the robots attain 'free will' and they are accepted into our lives and treated as intelligent beings and not just 'robots'. It's conditioning. Ever heard of homo evolutis?

[piazza]

Originally Posted by Loublaze

If I die and go to hell, and Satan has bitch tits like this guy, I'm just gonna LOL.

[Loublaze]

Its an interesting watch, it kinda took me back when i first watched it but when you find out it was all Written, Researched and edited and voice over'ed by one man it kinda makes you feel as if its some angry man with too much time on his hands, but ill admit there are some interesting points, and ive always liked reading stuff like this.

Im interested where did you get all this stuff from, like websites and that id quite like to give it a read.

Originally Posted by andersons_left_foot

The Vigilant Citizen
David Icke's Official Forums
Revealing Rain Man (Part 1-12)

[Loublaze]

Also...go to the industryexposed.com....very interesting videos of artists in modern day pop culture and a few from the past. Some of his conclusions are a little far fetched but he has 54 videos of research with a lot of interesting and sometimes shocking content...you'll be surprised to see how much you actually 'didn't' see the first time!