[Jennaluvsunited]

Originally Posted by SALFORD RED

Obviosly you missed the other hundreds of cases on all the pages and just picked one.

Chicken ? Coward ? The ones that carry blades and weapons are the
COWARDS and CHICKENS. SCUM that want taking off the streets.
Carry a knife, 5 years no questions.

Chicken, Coward ? Me ? You know nothing at all about me and
if you did you would certainly not be calling me that. You're calling
the wrong fella here Jenna.
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Hey sal just joking jeez i stuck tongue out at you, but i was only interested in the 1 link cause i actually know of the family & all what hapened exactly i speak to gary's daughters, so dont get a strop on lol but if you act like this saying your calling the wrong fella with the angry face then how come you wont be like this in reallity to all these thugs you did state this "I know which i'd pick every time." thats sounds like a cowards way out but like i said i was joking but instead of all the posting saying police is no good, national service is no good, i wont be an informer, i know which id pick every time lets all here more on what you think would be a good idea to tackle the problems, FU comments are lets all be vigilantes lol

[ManUtd19]

Originally Posted by Keano!

Anti-social behaviour all stems from a child's up bringing.

Should parents discard rules and lay back and let their son/daughter do what
they want, the trouble will happen. Its logic. If kids see their parents drink, they'll
drink, if they see violence, they'll fight, if they see love and caring and rules, then
they will grow up believing that this is the way things should be.


As for carrying weapons, well, that's just plain and utterly stupid...
...for what reason re you going to "pull" a knife or another weapon on
someone? Because they call you fat or something stupid!


Overall, its laid back parents who don't give a damn how their kids act and that
who to blame. Thankfully I was brought up in an environment where, if I did
something wrong, I was disciplined.

Bad parents = anti-social behaviour

I agree. However, while disciplinary action is sometimes required, kids learn the most by example and benefit more from a parent calmly explaining what they did wrong, why it was wrong etc. and requesting that they not do so again.

Neither me nor my brothers have ever been so much as lightly hit by my parents. They have never used physical force on us and have never needed to. There should be no need for hitting children, and if such a need arises things have already veered off course.

I know you didn't specify which method of discipline was most favoured in your household, and therefore this isn't aimed at you but rather everyone. I just thought I'd make the point.

[SALFORD RED]

Originally Posted by Jennaluvsunited

Hey sal just joking jeez i stuck tongue out at you, but i was only interested in the 1 link cause i actually know of the family & all what hapened exactly i speak to gary's daughters, so dont get a strop on lol but if you act like this saying your calling the wrong fella with the angry face then how come you wont be like this in reallity to all these thugs you did state this "I know which i'd pick every time." thats sounds like a cowards way out but like i said i was joking but instead of all the posting saying police is no good, national service is no good, i wont be an informer, i know which id pick every time lets all here more on what you think would be a good idea to tackle the problems, FU comments are lets all be vigilantes lol

So on one post you say " the police do have powers they will tackle this problem with real professionalism they just need help with the community"

So tell me how, going outside to fight with a gang of youth with knives and weapons, helps the police exactly ?

Answer...It doesn't....it provokes the situation even worse, escalates the violence,
creates even more problems for the police and just about every time results in people stabbed, in hospital, brain damages, paralized or dead.


and please stop sending me the same things in PMs, Thankyou.
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[Keano!]

Originally Posted by ManUtd19

I agree. However, while disciplinary action is sometimes required, kids learn the most by example and benefit more from a parent calmly explaining what they did wrong, why it was wrong etc. and requesting that they not do so again.
Neither me nor my brothers have ever been so much as lightly hit by my parents. They have never used physical force on us and have never needed to. There should be no need for hitting children, and if such a need arises things have already veered off course.

I know you didn't specify which method of discipline was most favoured in your household, and therefore this isn't aimed at you but rather everyone. I just thought I'd make the point.

Oh yeah, agree 100%

Sometimes though punnishments do have to be laid down though.

But by no means, slapping of hitting the child! That way, the child gets confused because the parents are doing something to them that they're being told not to do.

But its the parents to blame IMO

[Jennaluvsunited]

Originally Posted by SALFORD RED

So on one post you say " the police do have powers they will tackle this problem with real professionalism they just need help with the community"

So tell me how, going outside to fight with a gang of youth with knives and weapons, helps the police exactly ?

Answer...It doesn't....it provokes the situation even worse, escalates the violence,
creates even more problems for the police and just about every time results in people stabbed, in hospital, brain damages, paralized or dead.


and please stop sending me the same things in PMs, Thankyou.
.

pm sent to you sal but dont mock me im just trying to say what i think would be a good idea & would of liked you all to seen where i was coming from to make our streets safer? bye all

[ManUtd19]

Originally Posted by Jennaluvsunited

pm sent to you sal but dont mock me im just trying to say what i think would be a good idea & would of liked you all to seen where i was coming from to make our streets safer? bye all

• The cops have neither the manpower nor the legality to just walk around shooting and arresting youths.
• Only a small portion of the arrested youths wouldn't just be released within 24 hours.
• Everyone has human rights that may not be violated.
• Children behave based on their upbringing.
• While prevention is better than cure, cure must be kept as an option as far as possible.
• When people lose hope, all is lost. Such would happen if the government waged war on its own youth.

Bye.

[Forever_United]

Originally Posted by SALFORD RED

Obviosly you missed the other hundreds of cases on all the pages and just picked one.

Chicken ? Coward ? The ones that carry blades and weapons are the
COWARDS and CHICKENS. SCUM that want taking off the streets.
Carry a knife, 5 years no questions.

Chicken, Coward ? Me ? You know nothing at all about me and
if you did you would certainly not be calling me that. You're calling
the wrong fella here Jenna.
.

So because i used to carry a knife to protect MYSELF that makes me a coward. i once got chased by a gang of 20 + yobs. if they'd caught me i would most probably have been killed given the drugs and alcohol they were fueled up on. i'm now wise not to go thru areas like that again. if i do happen to walk past a yob or a couple of yobs nowadays and they start becoming violent, i like the comfort of at least having protection with me.

as i said i carry mine for protection not too just pull out on anyone that looks at me wrong.

not cowardice, but common sense.

[Keano4taoiseach]

You can blame the kids, the parents, society, the rich, the poor etc. etc.

When in fact you should be blaming Margaret Thatcher.

[Keano!]

Originally Posted by Forever_United

So because i used to carry a knife to protect MYSELF that makes me a coward. i once got chased by a gang of 20 + yobs. if they'd caught me i would most probably have been killed given the drugs and alcohol they were fueled up on. i'm now wise not to go thru areas like that again. if i do happen to walk past a yob or a couple of yobs nowadays and they start becoming violent, i like the comfort of at least having protection with me.

as i said i carry mine for protection not too just pull out on anyone that looks at me wrong.

not cowardice, but common sense.

Yes! It does.

Its been proven that people who stupidly carry knives are more
likely to get into fights and get stabbed themselves.

What would make someone carry a knife bewilders me!

A mate of mine went to Italy and he brought me back these two
small dagger/knife things in a leather casing. I still have them
and have never "pulled" them on someone.

Knives are for buttering bread and cutting various things around
the home, not for threatening and butchering people!



Answer me this FU, say you were walking down a street at
23:00 some night and you had your knife in your pocket or
in your sock...ok?

A bloke comes up behind you and "starts" on you, threatens
you, demands money etc....

You immediately think, "Heyy, I'll get my knife"....Tell me
exactly what you would then do once the knife was visible to
a lad robbing you?? Stab him? Slit him?

Sheesh.....cop on!

[Red Devil]

Birch and National Service