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15-06-2009, 05:25 PM
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Top goalscorer
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Location: Romania
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I would honestly prefer at the moment a "star" player like Rybery or even Silva. The kid's not bad, but like a lot you said, in videos everyone's good.
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15-06-2009, 05:31 PM
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#62
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Hearts Lucas Neill
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: in a large haunted testicle am a lonely sperm :(
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anyone else noticed how tiny he looks
he is about the same height of Anderson but he is so skinny with thin bones
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15-06-2009, 05:50 PM
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#63
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Hearts Lucas Neill
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: in a large haunted testicle am a lonely sperm :(
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he seems to have pretty skills and great pace
just needs to sort out his finishing and learn to create attacks and he can be a legendary player
and who knows after 6 years real maybe buy him from us for 200m
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15-06-2009, 08:45 PM
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#64
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All aboard the fail train
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Derailing Threads
Posts: 3,733
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He's the spitz of Eto'o
Costa
Eto'o
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15-06-2009, 10:11 PM
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#65
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Key player
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In Jonny Evans Pocket
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Haha i thought that too, bit smaller though
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16-06-2009, 03:56 AM
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#66
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Moderator
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Daily Express | Sport | Football
BRAZIL prospect Douglas Costa’s agent has claimed the Gremio youngster is being seen as a replacement for Cristiano Ronaldo at Manchester United.
Midfielder Douglas, 18, has four years left on his contract, with Gremio rating him at £20million.
Agent Cesar Bottega said: “United have identified four or five possible replacements for Cristiano Ronaldo in the world and Douglas is one.”
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16-06-2009, 04:32 AM
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#67
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Pz
Join Date: Oct 2007
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I'd rather have him than Ribery, Benzema, Silva and especially Valencia
and Young.
Originally Posted by PeeJay
lol u just love the kids don't you?
How much have you seen of him to want him ahead of the likes of ribery, benzema and silva?
I would choose him over young and valencia too, just because i don't see anything special about either.
However at the moment, ribery is streets ahead of costa as a player and benzema and silva are both brilliant players.
I would not mind seeing him at united, only because he is unknown as dubbed as a big prospect, but thats about it.
pz!
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16-06-2009, 05:16 AM
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#68
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Moving Up
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lol u just love the kids don't you?
How much have you seen of him to want him ahead of the likes of ribery, benzema and silva?
I would choose him over young and valencia too, just because i don't see anything special about either.
However at the moment, ribery is streets ahead of costa as a player and benzema and silva are both brilliant players.
I would not mind seeing him at united, only because he is unknown as dubbed as a big prospect, but thats about it.
pz!
Originally Posted by United_OG
I think PJ is exaggerating.
I know you've said before that whenever you watch Young he doesn't impress you, but the same apllies t me on the other spectrum.
Everytime I see him, he's skipping past players, putting in yummy crosses, stretching the opponent's defense.... it's all good as far as concern AND he tracks back.
I've watched enugh of Riber this season to have been convinced months ago. The man is pure class.
For me, the order in which I rank the possible transfer candidates:
- Ribery
- Benzema
- Villa
- Silva
- Young
- Sanchez
- Costa
- Valencia
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16-06-2009, 05:36 AM
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#69
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Pz
Join Date: Oct 2007
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I think PJ is exaggerating.
I know you've said before that whenever you watch Young he doesn't impress you, but the same apllies t me on the other spectrum.
Everytime I see him, he's skipping past players, putting in yummy crosses, stretching the opponent's defense.... it's all good as far as concern AND he tracks back.
I've watched enugh of Riber this season to have been convinced months ago. The man is pure class.
For me, the order in which I rank the possible transfer candidates:
- Ribery
- Benzema
- Villa
- Silva
- Young
- Sanchez
- Costa
- Valencia
Originally Posted by RedForceRising
Maybe im a little harsh on young
I do like the look of sanchez too, he does seem a very good prospect.
I think what does not impress me about young is that he seems clumsy. When he runs with the ball, his centre of gravity almost seems in the wrong position because he sometimes leans to low for a guy of is height and i think his assists are better because he has the likes of carew or heskey or even gabby in the box for him more often than not. At united with rooney/tevez, he'd find his final ball under more scrutiny than ever because there would be no guy in there for him sometimes. Would he end up doing what nani does, get into the corner and run in circles or is he good enough to be a threat himself?
I don't know, whenever i seem to see him play, he does not impress me as i've told you before and as you stated but you like many others have seen him and been hugely impressed, so maybe we just seem to see him on different occasions can be my biggest and best guess for now!
Regardless, i'm sure fergie all season has been looking for replacements for ronaldo. Infact i think he has probably already got a target or a couple of targets who he thinks he would like at the club to replace ronaldo. Maybe a star and a newer kid. Nows it about whether we can get them or not.
I'm sure activity will speed up in the transfer market soon within the next 10 days for us. Whether we sign someone or not, i don't know but im sure we'll be making moves to get players here.
While im dissapointed about loosing ronaldo, he was excitement on a football pitch, its now someone elses turn to be that guy and im excited about what the future holds for us!
pz!
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16-06-2009, 09:42 AM
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#70
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Star striker
Join Date: Jun 2009
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I'd rather have him than Ribery, Benzema, Silva and especially Valencia
and Young.
Originally Posted by PeeJay
i think Benzema could be the man for us, he could get 20+ a season while still learning
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16-06-2009, 09:59 AM
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#71
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Star striker
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: London & Manchester
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i think Nani could (and needs to) step up to the plate - seen what he can do, but only in flashes eg. goal V Liverpool.....
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16-06-2009, 01:42 PM
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#72
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President of the -zuco- fan club
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Location: Anfield Road
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I'm not exaggerating in the slightest, I think buys like Rooney and Ronaldo
are better buys than Van Nistelrooy and Hargreaves, for example. Ribery
is among the best players in the world, I'm not doubting his ability but I just
prefer the policy of buying youngsters than buying established players.
Not only is Ribery 8 years older than Douglas Costa but he's four times the price,
which is why I think we should use the £80mil. wisely, an ex player recently
said on Sky Sports that he thinks Fergie will spend £20mil on "2, 3, possibly
4 different players". That's the kind of activity I like to see, I'm not into this
big buy fanboyism, I think we should be spending £5mil. today for someone who
will be just as good as Ribery (or thereabouts) in 3-4 years, someone who can
grow in the squad, not someone who will come, with lots of media attention and
speculation, and play.
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16-06-2009, 01:51 PM
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#73
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has been served
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Reading
Posts: 3,023
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I'm not exaggerating in the slightest, I think buys like Rooney and Ronaldo
are better buys than Van Nistelrooy and Hargreaves, for example. Ribery
is among the best players in the world, I'm not doubting his ability but I just
prefer the policy of buying youngsters than buying established players.
Not only is Ribery 8 years older than Douglas Costa but he's four times the price,
which is why I think we should use the £80mil. wisely, an ex player recently
said on Sky Sports that he thinks Fergie will spend £20mil on "2, 3, possibly
4 different players". That's the kind of activity I like to see, I'm not into this
big buy fanboyism, I think we should be spending £5mil. today for someone who
will be just as good as Ribery (or thereabouts) in 3-4 years, someone who can
grow in the squad, not someone who will come, with lots of media attention and
speculation, and play.
Originally Posted by PeeJay
Nah mate, otherwise your squad is going to be weak. You need to balance it. Buy quality and youngsters. If you can do both its a ******* steal (Silva).
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16-06-2009, 01:55 PM
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#74
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Super Moderator
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That is maybe nice to have in an ideal situation, but you have to look at the squad.
With players like nani and Anderson still establishing themselves and nowhere near as good as they need to be and with Scholes, Gazza and Giggs in the final year of the contract, time is a luxury we don't have.
Currently the squad needs to fill a very big gap. Even before Ronaldo's departure, there were a few areas for development. Now those areas have seemingly multiplied.
i like watching young players blossom and develop with the club too, but there needs to be balance.
I would say a big signing to steady the ship and maybe 1 or 2 younger players who can develop into great players.
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16-06-2009, 01:57 PM
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President of the -zuco- fan club
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That is maybe nice to have in an ideal situation, but you have to look at the squad.
With players like nani and Anderson still establishing themselves and nowhere near as good as they need to be and with Scholes, Gazza and Giggs in the final year of the contract, time is a luxury we don't have.
Currently the squad needs to fill a very big gap. Even before Ronaldo's departure, there were a few areas for development. Now those areas have seemingly multiplied.
i like watching young players blossom and develop with the club too, but there needs to be balance.
I would say a big signing to steady the ship and maybe 1 or 2 younger players who can develop into great players.
Originally Posted by RedForceRising
I'm not just saying youth. Were Carrick, Evra and Vidic big signings?
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16-06-2009, 02:03 PM
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Galway, Ireland.
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I'm not just saying youth. Were Carrick, Evra and Vidic big signings?
Originally Posted by PeeJay
While I agree with your point with Vidic and Evra, I disagree on Carrick. He cost a fortune and deserves to be labeled a 'big signing' regarding the fee alone.
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16-06-2009, 02:05 PM
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President of the -zuco- fan club
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While I agree with your point with Vidic and Evra, I disagree on Carrick. He cost a fortune and deserves to be labeled a 'big signing' regarding the fee alone.
Originally Posted by peterswellman
He was a relatively big signing but nothing compared to what
Benzema, Ribery, Valencia and so on would be.
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16-06-2009, 02:09 PM
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#78
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Galway, Ireland.
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He was a relatively big signing but nothing compared to what
Benzema, Ribery, Valencia and so on would be.
Originally Posted by PeeJay
Valencia is only a few million more expensive, is he not?
The other two I agree. The only comparisions price wise would be Veron and Berbatov.
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16-06-2009, 02:36 PM
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#79
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Super Moderator
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I'm not just saying youth. Were Carrick, Evra and Vidic big signings?
Originally Posted by PeeJay
Carrick, yes.
Evra and Vidic, no.
But still, point taken.
but I think you can appreciate that the void Ronaldo's leaves behind is pretty huge and even Evra and Vidic took half a season to come good.
Of course now, they the best in the world in their positions, so i see where you're coming from.
Still, i think you can see where I'm coming from.
Make a big sgning to fill the void and then Fergie can still spend a bit on two players with huge potential.
In this way, the team will be great shape NOW and in the future.
Peace!
live long and prosper.
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16-06-2009, 05:55 PM
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has been served
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Location: Reading
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I'm not just saying youth. Were Carrick, Evra and Vidic big signings?
Originally Posted by PeeJay
They all were. Carrick for the fee but all of them for the role they played. Who's been our first choice centre back, left back and centre mid since they got here and adjusted?
We don't need youth atm, we have Ljajic, Welbeck and Macheda all coming through and looking to be world class prospects and not to mention our ever growing horde of Brazilians with Anderson at the helm.
Valencia is 23 and as such is good enough to be first team but young enough to be molded by Fergie, perhaps not entirely but just add the last few touches to his game. I'd prefer Benzema over Villa for this reason and I think David Silva would be an immense signing too.
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