[RedForceRising]

No problems i knew i was going to get banned, my first ever offence , but that stephen guy is just to negative why come onto a site to just complain about everything.

Originally Posted by rydersonthestorm

Yeah, he needs to figure out why he liked this community in the first place.

sneijder was real madrids best player before he got injured although abit premature he was getting rated up there with the worlds very best.

Originally Posted by rydersonthestorm

Yeah, you know how the Madrid hype machine works, but he is ery good in his position.
With the Galacticos project underway, it will be interesting to see, if they forget about Sneijder and let him go.
Would be ironic and cruel though, cos he was making a lot of noises for the Madrid heirachy to sign Ronaldo.

[Jazz 16]

Ok, so the members of MUT have spoken and reckon we should be buying another CM?
Let me ask you this......If we were to sign another CM what on earth would happen to Giggs,
Scholes, Fletcher, Hargo, Carrick, Anderson, Possebon, Hewson, Gibson and James?
I know it's a squad game these days, but if we were to sign another then what would happen to these lads?

[tonnas]

we need a winger more than a cm IF hargreaves remains fit

[rydersonthestorm]

Ok, so the members of MUT have spoken and reckon we should be buying another CM?
Let me ask you this......If we were to sign another CM what on earth would happen to Giggs,
Scholes, Fletcher, Hargo, Carrick, Anderson, Possebon, Hewson, Gibson and James?
I know it's a squad game these days, but if we were to sign another then what would happen to these lads?

Originally Posted by Jazz 16

Tbf the likes of gibson are not united quality imo so i would not be so worried about them, possebon is on loan next year so not much to worry about there, in regards to giggs and scholes i am not sure how much they will really have to offer in the coming season in terms of the games (obviously not lacking in expereince), hargo injuries, flecther had a very good season but he isn't world class, carrick is again a good player but not world class and anderson has the potential but isn't a finsihed project.

[TheManc]

The annoying thing is, we only have 1 big game midfielder - Fletcher. Anderson and Giggs can sometimes play well, but a lot of the time they fail. Scholes is in decline, so sadly its understandable that he struggles in those games now and Carrick really needs to pull his finger out.

This is a big season for our midfield.

Anderson must push on, Scholes will be fighting to keep himself at United level, Fletcher will be starting to command a permanent spot, and Hargreaves needs to get fit and make an impact in the centre - something he has yet to do when fit.

tbh I would wait until next summer to sign a midfielder. We've lost a few players this year, we don't want a complete upheavel. Lets get a young, talented winger, which will give us the squad we need, then a top class central midfielder can be the top priority for the season after.

[Drew9]

Let's get things straight, Owen Hargreaves will not be fit for in time for the start of the season in terms of playing week in week out and it's his steel and tough big game mentality that we missed in particular games such as the Champions League Final, Arsenal away, and Porto home and away last season and im sure that his absense gave Fergie some big problems last season as he was seen as the propper replacement for Roy Keane in terms of drive and get up and go from the middle of the park. But in my opnion now this isn't all we're missing. I was concerned on a number of occasions when i went to OT last season that not only was there not enough creativity from the middle of the park, there was simply no threat. Carrick will lay deep passing side-ways, yes very effective in keeping possesion and brilliant if you have an Essien, Gerrard or Iniesta next to him but often next to him was Scholes Fletcher or Anderson simply these players have either run out of steam in terms of adding something to our attack or simply dont have it this in their lockers, although we all hope Anderson will develop this in the coming years. If it was my decision I'd seriously pay what was required to go and get Wesley Sneijder From Real Madrid. I know where people are coming from saying Fergie would be too proud to go to them to buy a player but second only to Iniesta he would be the perfect addition in midfield as he would add drive, a goal threat, a dead ball specialist, and can play as a wide man aswell so he kills two birds with one stone, for me if we bought him we'd be more complete than we was last season with an un-interested Ronaldo. He would add brilliant balance to us and im convinced he'd be class. Just my opinion of course

[Richie]

We should have had Gareth Barry.

[Man_utd_chilE]

We should have had Gareth Barry.

Originally Posted by Richie

barry has signed by manchester city


I think we need seydu keita

[Mr United]

what about Lorik Cana ???..

Originally Posted by Mufc-Taff

i like that....

[haggler]

Ok, so the members of MUT have spoken and reckon we should be buying another CM?
Let me ask you this......If we were to sign another CM what on earth would happen to Giggs,
Scholes, Fletcher, Hargo, Carrick, Anderson, Possebon, Hewson, Gibson and James?
I know it's a squad game these days, but if we were to sign another then what would happen to these lads?

Originally Posted by Jazz 16

giggs and scholes ---about past it ---fletcher--one good season---hargo never fit----carrick doesnt know how to run at opposition ---anderson has gone backwards----possebon will be sold after year on loan --gibson would have broken through by now if fergie truly rated him . hewson and james are very young and who really knows how they will turn out . there is not any combination of mids there that are better than essien lampard --gerrard masherano-- xavi iniesta and if arse play fabregas with willshire . We cannot rely on defence having another year like the last .

[migueldadon]

Ok, so the members of MUT have spoken and reckon we should be buying another CM?
Let me ask you this......If we were to sign another CM what on earth would happen to Giggs,
Scholes, Fletcher, Hargo, Carrick, Anderson, Possebon, Hewson, Gibson and James?
I know it's a squad game these days, but if we were to sign another then what would happen to these lads?

Originally Posted by Jazz 16

Excellent point, people forget how much talent we have, it might not be at the level it can be, but we are set for the future with our current Midfielders if everything pans out correctly.

[Nigel'sChin]

Ok, so the members of MUT have spoken and reckon we should be buying another CM?
Let me ask you this......If we were to sign another CM what on earth would happen to Giggs,
Scholes, Fletcher, Hargo, Carrick, Anderson, Possebon, Hewson, Gibson and James?
I know it's a squad game these days, but if we were to sign another then what would happen to these lads?

Originally Posted by Jazz 16

take away possebon whos on loan. hewson and james who arent ready for first team. and hargo who is injured till january.

you have fletcher scholes carrick anderson giggs and gibson.

giggs and scholes cant play week in week out and will probably retire this coming season or the next.
gibson is transfer listed.
you are left with fletcher carrick anderson.
apart from anderson who is supposedly attacking minded, we have no one left who are attacking minded.

we really do need someone really attacking minded, but dont mind tracking back.

[haggler]

We are all of course assuming fergie has bought Valencia to be a right winger .

But its possible he intends playing him through the middle .

Carrick and Valencia in cm with giggs/nani swapping flanks perhaps .

Or he may have eye on Arjen Robben ???

We have no height at all in our forward line , so maybe a more compact style will be adopted ?

Just a thought ----- could anderson be told to play the game he was bought for ????

[RedForceRising]

The annoying thing is, we only have 1 big game midfielder - Fletcher. Anderson and Giggs can sometimes play well, but a lot of the time they fail. Scholes is in decline, so sadly its understandable that he struggles in those games now and Carrick really needs to pull his finger out.

This is a big season for our midfield.

Anderson must push on, Scholes will be fighting to keep himself at United level, Fletcher will be starting to command a permanent spot, and Hargreaves needs to get fit and make an impact in the centre - something he has yet to do when fit.

tbh I would wait until next summer to sign a midfielder. We've lost a few players this year, we don't want a complete upheavel. Lets get a young, talented winger, which will give us the squad we need, then a top class central midfielder can be the top priority for the season after.

Originally Posted by TheManc

Agree with this post - mostly. Except that we really are the kind of club where Darren Fletcher should NOT be comanding a regular spot, if you know what I mean.

He's a good squad player, but the form of our CMs has allowed him to be played regularly from the start.

TBH we have alot of midfileders who have most of the traits we need, but no two players combined have ALL the traits we need and we need a more direct attacking midfileder.

I believe Anderson can develop into that player, u he isn't quite there.

AS you're pointed out, Carrick could be so much more influential and better, if he decided to grow a bigger pair and grab matches by the scruff of the neck.

Let's get things straight, Owen Hargreaves will not be fit for in time for the start of the season in terms of playing week in week out and it's his steel and tough big game mentality that we missed in particular games such as the Champions League Final, Arsenal away, and Porto home and away last season and im sure that his absense gave Fergie some big problems last season as he was seen as the propper replacement for Roy Keane in terms of drive and get up and go from the middle of the park. But in my opnion now this isn't all we're missing. I was concerned on a number of occasions when i went to OT last season that not only was there not enough creativity from the middle of the park, there was simply no threat. Carrick will lay deep passing side-ways, yes very effective in keeping possesion and brilliant if you have an Essien, Gerrard or Iniesta next to him but often next to him was Scholes Fletcher or Anderson simply these players have either run out of steam in terms of adding something to our attack or simply dont have it this in their lockers, although we all hope Anderson will develop this in the coming years. If it was my decision I'd seriously pay what was required to go and get Wesley Sneijder From Real Madrid. I know where people are coming from saying Fergie would be too proud to go to them to buy a player but second only to Iniesta he would be the perfect addition in midfield as he would add drive, a goal threat, a dead ball specialist, and can play as a wide man aswell so he kills two birds with one stone, for me if we bought him we'd be more complete than we was last season with an un-interested Ronaldo. He would add brilliant balance to us and im convinced he'd be class. Just my opinion of course

Originally Posted by Drew9

Agree with your post with the exception that Carrick also passes a lot forward, not just sideways. What he doesn't do is that he very rarely runs with the ball and certainly not at defenders. Only when he has space.

Sneijder would be an excellent acquisition as would be Ashley Young, who is probably the finest crosser of the ball in the league and at the heart of most things good at Aston Villa.

This will be scholes' and giggs' final year.

Darron Gibson could become a good squad player.

If we don't plum for Sneijder this summer, we should try for him in January as I believe the arrivals fof Kaka and Ronaldo could limit his game time.

[andersons_left_foot]

im quite enjoying the fact that mid season i made a thread about carrick and how he was under preforming, and i got shot down like a rabbit at a gun show.

and now everyone shares the same view cause he preformances went worse.

not boasting mind i wish he would play fantastically again, just pointing it out why i dont know lol.

but we do need something else in midfield, something with an attacking out look please.

[RedForceRising]

We are all of course assuming fergie has bought Valencia to be a right winger .

But its possible he intends playing him through the middle .

Carrick and Valencia in cm with giggs/nani swapping flanks perhaps .

Or he may have eye on Arjen Robben ???

We have no height at all in our forward line , so maybe a more compact style will be adopted ?

Just a thought ----- could anderson be told to play the game he was bought for ????

Originally Posted by haggler

Absolutely. Valencia DID play as an AM at Wigan at times and did well.

We could move Nni out right and use Valencia through the middle. Very valid suggestion.

Also agree about Anderson. A player who has so much flair and attacking instinct, must be now allowed to roam and do his thing.

I think / assume that Fergie wanted Anderson to learn the art of defending first, so he knows how to stop attacks through the middle.

Fair enough. But he's done that now for two seasons. Now he should to get forward more and use his ball control, as well as trickery to unlock defences.

Can you remember our league game against Villa at Villa park last season.

It was a bore draw and Rooney missed a good chance (though it was on the volley) but the highlight of that match was a run by Anderson in the penalty box.

That boy hos the chutzpah and the ability to run with ball past players and doesn't get knocked off the ball easily.

Only his last ball was poor because he didn't look up before cutting the ball back.

But to me that instance highlighted that he needs to get forward more and into that kind of situation more, so he can be more composed and effective with his last ball.

If he can do that - and finally add some goals, we might not need anybody else.

[Justice]

Carrick, Ando, Fletcher, Hargo, Valencia...

[Stimpy]

Who knows, we could see a little bit of Davide Petrucci next season...he's very attack minded and has such class and vision

He's easily our best talent, bar Welbeck

[Grif SA]

If we got Sneijder, I'd do unmentionable things. I'd be really happy
if we picked him up from the inevitable firesale at Madrid. For the
lineup, Madrid have Kaka and Ronaldo, possibly aiming for Ribery
too, which leaves no room for anybody else in a potential 4-1-3-2
formation. Hopefully we'd be able to persuade them to sell Wesley.
He's ambidextrous, he's a very good free kick taker, plus he can
work the middle as a CAM or the flanks too when others are out.
Also, he's only 25, so he still has a lot of years left in him.

[Murocon]

Sneijder is the type of player I would like football wise but I am not sure whether he has the balls. Looked great for the Netherlands in the group stages of the euros, completely disappeared when it came to the crunch. I would like an attack minded cm to compliment what we already have in midfield.Fletcher is gonna be some player this coming season I reckon, but unlocking a tight defence wont be his forte. Carrick can do that but sometimes sits very deep and also he seems a touch slow as far as dropping his shoulder and ghosting past his opposite number is concerned.There is not many genuinely available players that i know that fit the bill. Has anyone seen that German lad Mesut Ozil who by all accounts ripped the England U21's a new one last week? Utd were linked with him before and he has only got two years left on his contract so it could be doable.