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Old 09-05-2008, 10:08 AM   #1
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9 may, Victory Day

Victory Day marks the capitulation of Nazi Germany to the Soviet Union in the Second World War commonly referred to in the Soviet Union as the Great Patriotic War. This capitulation was signed late in the evening on May 8, 1945 (May 9 in the Moscow time zone), following the original capitulation Germany signed earlier to the joint Allied forces. The Soviet government announced the victory early on May 9 after the signing ceremony in Berlin.

General Zhukov reading the German capitulation. Seated on his right was Arthur Tedder, Marshal of the Royal Air Force.The May 9 Victory Day is celebrated in most of the successor states to the Soviet Union, especially in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. The day is traditionally marked by ceremonial military parades with the most prominent one being traditionally held in Moscow Red Square.
Two separate capitulation events took place at the time. First, the capitulation to the Allied nations in Reims was signed on May 7, 1945, effective 23:01 CET May 8. This date is commonly referred to as the V-E Day (Victory in Europe Day) in most western European countries.

However, the Soviet Union's only representative in Reims was General Ivan Susloparov, the Military Liaison Mission Commander. General Susloparov's scope of authority was not entirely clear, and he had no means of immediate contact with Kremlin, but nevertheless decided to risk signing for the Soviet side. Susloparov was caught offguard; he had no instructions from Moscow. But if he did not sign, he risked a German surrender without Soviet participation. However, he noted that it could be replaced with a new version in the future. Stalin was indeed displeased by these events. He believed that the German surrender should have been accepted only by the envoy of the USSR Supreme command and signed only in Berlin and insisted the Reims protocol be considered preliminary, with the main ceremony to be held in Berlin, where Marshal Zhukov was at the time, as the latter recounts in his memoirs:

"Today, in Reims, Germans signed the preliminary act on an unconditional surrender. The main contribution, however, was done by Soviet people and not by the Allies, therefore the capitulation must be signed in front of the Supreme Command of all countries of the anti-Hitler coalition, and not only in front of the Supreme Command of Allied Forces. Moreover, I disagree that the surrender was not signed in Berlin, which was the center of Nazi aggression. We agreed with the Allies to consider the Reims protocol as preliminary. ”

Therefore, another ceremony was organized in a surviving manor in the outskirts of Berlin late on May 8, when it was already May 9 in Moscow due to the difference in time zones. Field-Marshal Wilhelm Keitel submitted the capitulation of the Wehrmacht to the Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov in the Red Army headquarters in Berlin-Karlshorst. To commemorate the victory in the war, the ceremonial Moscow Victory Parade was held in the Soviet capital on June 24, 1945.

Field-Marshal Keitel signing the ratified surrender terms for the German military.The anniversary of May 9 was celebrated not only in Soviet Union but in the countries of the Eastern Bloc as well. Since the fall of the communism in Central and Eastern Europe these countries, as well as the Baltic States, recognize Victory in Europe Day instead on May 8th.


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Old 09-05-2008, 11:24 AM   #2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenitka
The anniversary of May 9 was celebrated not
only in Soviet Union but in the countries of
the Eastern Bloc as well. Since the fall of the
communism in Central and Eastern Europe
these countries, as well as the Baltic States,
recognize Victory in Europe Day instead on May 8th.

Don't tell people we celebrated May 9th in Romania !!!

We celebrate NOTHING to do with communists !!!!

Our people were told to celebrate it - forced to do it !!!

It's a great shame this article stops when it does ...

Just highlighting the 'nice' bits !!

What about the next 44 years when they destroyed
everything of any value in Romania ?

Ceasescu stole millions from us ... and wrecked
millions of peoples lives !!!!

We will never celebrate a single thing about Communism
and Ceasescu !! Just December 25th 1989 ............
when he and his wife were dragged into the streets
and executed !!

The Christmas Revolution !!!

Since 1989 we dont have too much wealth ... but we are happy !!!!!!

And money cant buy you that !!!!!
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:38 AM   #3
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Don't tell people we celebrated May 9th in Romania !!!

We celebrate NOTHING to do with communists !!!!

Our people were told to celebrate it - forced to do it !!!

It's a great shame this article stops when it does ...

Just highlighting the 'nice' bits !!

What about the next 44 years when they destroyed
everything of any value in Romania ?

Ceasescu stole millions from us ... and wrecked
millions of peoples lives !!!!

We will never celebrate a single thing about Communism
and Ceasescu !! Just December 25th 1989 ............
when he and his wife were dragged into the streets
and executed !!

The Christmas Revolution !!!

Since 1989 we dont have too much wealth ... but we are happy !!!!!!

And money cant buy you that !!!!!

So true & nicely said
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Old 10-05-2008, 10:33 AM   #4
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I believe Romania was "liberated" by Soviets alone..so maybe it wasn't so tough to accept their ridiculous governance in comparsion with Czechoslovakia which was right in the middle of western and eastern hemisphere - part of the country was liberated by Americans, part was liberated by Soviets. ..So ordinary Czechoslovaks maybe had the belief in joining the West and then this belief was taken away from them. That pains twice as much.
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:55 AM   #5
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calm down; it is history now. Jeez, if people do not grow up I will delete whole section.
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