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Originally Posted by Red Devil

I would not even give David Icke the time of day let alone some of my time to watch anything of his. The guy is a certified loon who lost a brilliant career in tv journalism, overnight, when he suddenly went "potty" ...........................

The Illuminati does exist, and has existed for eons. And many many world leaders are interconnected. But the most dangerous people are the "top cat" businessmen who steer work to each other instead of to the company with the best credentials for the job. They make the freemansons look like a nursery school.

Certainly, David icke, is a character, but sometimes it takes a character to stand up and look like a loon to get information out into the public.

Even if the information seems absurd at first.

If you do not wish to give David Icke the time of day, perhaps you would be interested to watch this movie called Zeitgeist:

You can watch the movie on google videos
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...83847743189197

As piazza mentions, it is very interesting and the first 40 minutes should resonate with you, because it deals with debunking religion.

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Originally Posted by piazza

RFR, Zeitgeist is phenomenal. At least the first 46 minutes are, that's how deep I am into it currently. I'd seen the part about religion before, somewhere else and the part about 9/11 seems to be just about what every MIHOP/LIHOP movie I've ever seen.

I'm glad you like it.

What I like about Zeiteist is the amount of evidence it presents and that there are actual people giving evidence ON FILM!

Another aspect, I like is that it goes into the economic aspect of our perceived reality. It is very important for people to understand this debt-slavery that we are born into.

When you come from the thinking that the world is just chaotic and that things happen by coincidence, the world makes little sense.

But when you come from a place where you understand that a small group of powerful people are willing to manipulate financial, educational and health systems to keep you busy and dumb throug out life then the world makes more sense.

RD says just because it's feasible doesn't make it probable, but in some cases it's not only feasible it's more probable than the lies we are told.

I presented a colleague with a lot of evidence as to why 9/11 was a staged event and he gave it a lot of possibility and then he asked 'but why would they do it'.

I answered because a small goup of powerful men want to take away the liberties of the American people and further their own agenda.

My colleague: "Oh, I don't believe it. Nah, it can't be".

Me: OK you don't believe the reason why they would do such a thing, but does that make the events of 9/11 less suspicious.

Colleague: BLANK STARE

THis blank stare tells you how, we've been programmed. You don't know why people would do something that you and I would never be able to fathom, so you just stop thinking or deem anything that goes against the grains as hog wash or just another conspiracy theory.

During 9/11 - several hundred people heard big explosions including TV presenters who were covering the event life. After that the American goverment siad there was no explosion it was the sound o the building collapsing ......

And they buy it hook, line and sinker.

The Building manager of the WTC is now suing the city of New York and the government of America, because they planned 9/11.

He was in the basement level 1 and there was an explosion from the lover basement levels.

Originally Posted by Red Devil

Be careful, there is a world of difference between what you BELIEVE and what you THINK you believe. Just because something is feasible, does not make it probable. I think the american nation is a direct contradiction across the board. Bible punching belt, successive presidents who keep stating god in every speech, conspiracy theorists who believe anything and everything. Your country is so tied up in its own theories as not to be completely aware of the rest of the planet.

The problem is ppl have gotten to the point where they don't know what to believe that;s why I trust my intuition and gut instinct. There's a book called blink that has shown that your first instinct.

Anotherthing, conspiracy theorists are not bad people and do not believe everything.

I do not believe the Queen is a blood-drinking, reptile-human - yes that is a theory.
I don't believe it because all accounts of this theory is verbal evidence.

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Barry Jennings was a key 9/11 witness and was inside WTC tower7, when he witnessed an explosion inside the building.

He made it out alived and was immediately interviewed by a news team.

He has stated several times that there was an enormous explosion inside WTC tower 7 BEFORE towers 1 or 2 came down and that while he was being rescued by firemen, he was told not to look down. Why? Because he was stepping on dead bodies.

7 years later, people are petitioning an investigation into mayor Guiliani's office and Jennings was going to be a key witness.

He was found deat on August the 19th and the cause of death has not been disclosed.

Below is an article and here is an uncut interview, which the directo has not shown in it's uncut version until now:

http://blip.tv/file/1064938


Barry Jennings, Key 9/11 Witness Dies
by Joe DeFranceschi September 17, 2008
http://www.groundreport.com/US/Barry...1-Witness-Dies

Barry Jennings, a former New York Housing Authority Emergency Coordinator and key 9/11 witness, has died of undisclosed causes at the age of 53.

Barry Jennings is most famously known for his eyewitness accounts of what happened in World Trade Center 7 (WTC7), another large building that fell on the World Trade Center site that was not hit by an airplane. Jennings claims that he heard explosions while in the building, furthering conspiracy theories that there were bombs and planned implosions at the site.

The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) recently released a report and video detailing the collapse of WTC7, using architectural data, witness accounts, computer models and physical laws to conclude that WTC7 collapsed because of fire, not explosions.

Some alternative media sources like infowars.com see Barry Jennings' mysterious death as even more reason to believe the events of September 11, 2001 were planned and orchestrated by the United States government. Please read both the Infowars account of the WTC7 collapse and the NIST assessment.