[RedForceRising]

Hi friends,

in light of recent events that are bringing America to its knees, I thought I would share a video with you that might throw up some interesting questions.

The movie is rather long, but it will be worth your while.

It is called Zeitgeist, which is german for "The spirit of the times", but it is an English move.
It is based on facts and evidence and moves along at a quick pace.

Those of you, who might be sensitive to questions about religion might want to forward to around the 39 minute mark, but then again, in the spirit of questioning what we know (or think we know) you might want to watch the movie in its entirety.


You can watch the movie on google videos
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...83847743189197

or download it from RapidShare.
http://www.flixdump.com/movie-62384-Zeitgeist.htm


This video will highlight evidence that several massive events have been coordinated and staged throughout modern history to create immense wealth for a small group of banking families, oppress the public at large thorough misinformation, mis-eduction, as well as debt-slavery and to facilitate a new world order.




There is another video that is very compelling from David Icke.


Please feel free to treat the information anyway you want. Some theories might resonate with you, while some assertions may just seem down right silly, but the amount of evidence for the existence of such powerful secret societies seem quite compelling.

The extent of their reach and power remains unknown though.

At least, I think you'll find David Icke to be entertaining.

This is Part 1, a 2 1/2 hour YouTube clip:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...en&emb=0&aq=f#

This is Part 2:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...90703215161452

This is Part 3:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...79686243103833

But, the entire presentation is much longer and if you have a rapdshare account try downloading it in its entirety:

http://skriztivism.blogspot.com/2008...m-time-to.html

[RedForceRising]

It really doesn't mater, who you vote.

According to rense.com, Obama is a 32nd degree freemason and according to all the major news sources, he's related to McCain AND George Bush.

http://www.rense.com/general80/obmw.htm

Obama related to Pitt, Clinton to Jolie
Researchers find remarkable family connections for the candidates



BOSTON - This could make for one odd family reunion: Barack Obama is a distant cousin of actor Brad Pitt, and Hillary Rodham Clinton is related to Pitt's girlfriend, Angelina Jolie.

Researchers at the New England Historic Genealogical Society found some remarkable family connections for the three presidential candidates — Democratic rivals Obama and Clinton, and Republican John McCain.

Clinton, who is of French-Canadian descent on her mother's side, is also a distant cousin of singers Madonna, Celine Dion and Alanis Morissette. Obama, the son of a white woman from Kansas and a black man from Kenya, can call six U.S. presidents, including George W. Bush, his cousins. McCain is a sixth cousin of first lady Laura Bush.

Genealogist Christopher Child said that while the candidates often focus on pointing out differences between them, their ancestry shows they are more alike than they think.

"It shows that lots of different people can be related, people you wouldn't necessarily expect," Child said.

Obama has a prolific presidential lineage that features Democrats and Republicans. His distant cousins include President George W. Bush and his father, George H.W. Bush, Gerald Ford, Lyndon Johnson, Harry S. Truman and James Madison. Other Obama cousins include Vice President Dick Cheney, British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill and Civil War General Robert E. Lee.

"His kinships are across the political spectrum," Child said.

Child has spent the last three years tracing the candidates' genealogy, along with senior research scholar Gary Boyd Roberts, author of the 1989 book, "Ancestors of American Presidents."

Clinton's distant cousins include beatnik author Jack Kerouac and Camilla Parker-Bowles, wife of Prince Charles of England.

McCain's ancestry was more difficult to trace because records on his relatives were not as complete as records for the families of Obama and Clinton, Child said.

Obama and President Bush are 10th cousins, once removed, linked by Samuel Hinkley of Cape Cod, who died in 1662.

Pitt and Obama are ninth cousins, linked by Edwin Hickman, who died in Virginia in 1769.

Clinton and Jolie are ninth cousins, twice removed, both related to Jean Cusson who died in St. Sulpice, Quebec, in 1718.

The New England Historic Genealogical Society, founded in 1845, is the oldest and largest nonprofit genealogical organization in the country.

- Anybody wanna bet that Jolie or pitt will be president or vice-president one day?

[xAlex]

everyones related to everyone lol how close exactly are these relations

[RedForceRising]

^ The relationships are far enough to be scoffed at by most, close enough to give me the creeps.

More David Icke for you to question what you think you know.

You don't have to accept it or agree, but it will throw up some questions:

http://www.edgemediatv.com/article001_icke.html

[RedForceRising]

A song that sums up the state of affirs nicely





Rap stars are using freemason symbolism like the pyramid.
Skull & Bones are a freemason society.

Kanye West & Jay-Z have been using them a lot in their videos, on stage and on their apparel. They might well be low-level illuminati.

[RedForceRising]

Dear friends,

Please humour me for a few minutes to read this and then hopefully take the time to watch this movie that I am about to recommend.

The seemingly coordinated nature of the credit crunch led me to do some research, which led to more questions and several mind-boggling discoveries.

Some of you might find them less mind-boggling, but maybe still interesting. In any case, they do pose some interesting questions. (and after watching, you might pose even more interesting questions)

Over the past few weeks, I have spent hours every day wading through written information and watching videos - Yes, it's been boring at work.

This movie is a good introduction into the deviant manipulation that we are being subjected to.

Now, before you laugh this off or think that I'm passing along some whacky junk, please take the time watch it and judge for yourselves afterwards.

I'm not asking you to believe all of it or even any of it. Just take it in, so you are familiar with the information. If it doesn't make sense right now, it might do so at a later point in time. At the very least you will start asking more questions about the stuff we read, see and hear in the mass media.

The movie is called Zeitgeist, which is German for 'spirit of the times', but it's an English movie and moves along at a good pace.

If I did not feel that this were important, I would not be taking the time to send this to you.

Those of you, who might be sensitive to questions about religion might want to forward to around the 39 minute mark, but then again, in the spirit of questioning what we know (or think we know) you might want to watch the movie in its entirety.

For the record, it has not changed my relationship with God, but I didn't have a "tradinitional' understanding or reltionship with God to begin with.

You can watch the movie on google videos
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...83847743189197

or download it from RapidShare.
http://www.flixdump.com/movie-62384-Zeitgeist.htm


This video will highlight evidence that several massive events have been coordinated and staged throughout modern history to create immense wealth for a small group of banking families, oppress the public at large thorough misinformation, mis-eduction, as well as debt-slavery and to facilitate a new world order.

I think the concept of an Orwellian state is not new to most, but I think the speed at whcih we are approaching it has been gaining pace and this might be an eye-opener.

After watching this movie, I hope that you will not be depressed, but feel empowered (and a little angry). :-)

Do not worry, nothing can be accomplished, if we wake up and realize how powerful we are. In case you did not know, we are magnificent beings, capable of amazing wonders.


Chees,


RFR

[Red Devil]

I would not even give David Icke the time of day let alone some of my time to watch anything of his. The guy is a certified loon who lost a brilliant career in tv journalism, overnight, when he suddenly went "potty" ...........................

The Illuminati does exist, and has existed for eons. And many many world leaders are interconnected. But the most dangerous people are the "top cat" businessmen who steer work to each other instead of to the company with the best credentials for the job. They make the freemansons look like a nursery school.

[piazza]

RFR, Zeitgeist is phenomenal. At least the first 46 minutes are, that's how deep I am into it currently. I'd seen the part about religion before, somewhere else and the part about 9/11 seems to be just about what every MIHOP/LIHOP movie I've ever seen.

[Red Devil]

Be careful, there is a world of difference between what you BELIEVE and what you THINK you believe. Just because something is feasible, does not make it probable. I think the american nation is a direct contradiction across the board. Bible punching belt, successive presidents who keep stating god in every speech, conspiracy theorists who believe anything and everything. Your country is so tied up in its own theories as not to be completely aware of the rest of the planet.

[Blade]

Originally Posted by Red Devil

Be careful, there is a world of difference between what you BELIEVE and what you THINK you believe. Just because something is feasible, does not make it probable. I think the american nation is a direct contradiction across the board. Bible punching belt, successive presidents who keep stating god in every speech, conspiracy theorists who believe anything and everything. Your country is so tied up in its own theories as not to be completely aware of the rest of the planet.

You label anything other than your own opinion 'conspiracy theories' without a jot of back up to substantiate your claims. If you laid out some evidence to corroborate your own theories, or something to counter other theories, maybe your own crazy rhetoric would gain more respect.