Current Multinational PL draft - The Winners

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Because all those players play in defensive systems don't they? As I said, think before you post. Not 1 of those players play in a 5 man defence. You're also bringing form back into this again (and probably appearences). There was not a single mention of current form in the opening post, so you're wasting effort there, and your right back hasn't even played 5 games this season.

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Once again you blatantly ignore other players and focus on 2 names - that's the second time you've done this. What about Gareth Bale and Jack Wilshere?

Eh? Who's this second player? Cabeye isn't some creative genius at all. Creative running from Kalou and Milner? Please....using Kalou as some kind of hold in this debate is laughable.

If you think Balotelli wouldn't mind playing in that team then you have no clue about his personality. He'd get frustrated in that 11. All on his own with little support. Your team in theory could be good on the counter but Balotelli isn't that type of striker either.

Sandro has played 12 games this season after picking up an injury forcing him to miss the start of it. I'm going to use the Rafael point one more time aswell - you keep ignoring it funnily enough. You can't harp on about HD's players not playing much when you're right back has only played 3 games all season. At the time of picking your team appearences obviously didn't matter to you, but you've suddenly changed your tune and act like it's a big deal. Double standards.

Skrtel is a very good defender - he played every minute of last season and Liverpool themselves have a very good defence. Infact this point alone just shows your ignorance. Agger is now in Liverpool's first team and Carragher went 11 league games without starting prior to the Stoke game. Clearly you haven't seen anything of Liverpool recently otherwise you would have known that. If you think Torres was infront of Drogba because he was in better form then you need to get your eyes checked.

Highly debatable as Silva isn't a CM and Kalou, Milner, Heitinga, Olsen ect aren't what you'd call posession retainers.

Waning? Hardly. He's still a world class striker - it's not his fault that he's had a few injuries, the manager continues to play Torres + Chelsea as a whole have underperformed. You ask Chelsea fans to name their 1st 11 and Drogba is still one of the 1st names on the teamsheet. He's still a class player, but because of his age people jump to the conclusion that he's past it. There's been several factors explaining why he hasn't scored 20 goals so far this season, and yes he's still one of the best in the world.

Not particularly - I don't care. This wasn't a squad game. If you all carry on and include subs + I get asked to judge them (god forbid) then I will.

Stats are gospel, obviously.

Then why was I asked? I must have done about 15 of these over the years and not once did I volunteer. Infact to prove how much I dislike doing it I usually have to be kicked up the arse to make my picks. I'll do it if someone asks me when they can't get anyone better. Why don't you judge? You take this thing seriously - I'm sure you'd spend ample time looking up all the stats, watching highlights and do a far better job than me. I take all of 30 seconds to make my picks, because I couldn't really give a toss.

No, by others. Usually Daulta. I think Flash has asked me a few times. As I said, I've been a judge tons of times and not once have I offered to do it. I've never proclaimed to be the Simon Cowell of the Online Drafts. I'll leave the serious business to the pros such as yourself.

First of all I've watched about 5 Milan games this season, secondly go and find a single post where I've 'fapped' over Milan. Yet another BS point you've made.

You just love to turn things around don't you? It was you who said I was bitter/jealous of you.....now you try to twist it and act like it's me with the chip on myshoulder. You probably made the assumption that I asked to do this.

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Wasn't having a go at you mate. I don't mind doing it when you can't find anyone else. I'm sure Pete likes me really.

No but it's much easier and means the other guy doesn't have to do as much copy and pasting.

Jesus christ. This proves EXACTLY my point. Rafael has pretty much zero current form - he's played a handful of games in 6 months and yet that clearly doesn't matter to you ("so what"), yet when HD plays players who aren't in the best of form themselves you jump on it. Clear double standards. Taking current form out of the equation (as there has never been a rule suggesting this is based on form, and you clearly don't think so either hence why you picked Rafael), Drogba, Bale, Wilshere, Sandro are are far more likely to create and score goals. Silva is not a central midfielder either - he plays in the final 3rd so he's never going to "ping passes" for 90 minutes.

Why are you asnwering your own question? Muppet.

Silva and Bale are different players - Silva is obviously more creative/technical whilst Bale is explosive. Silva is the better player but the difference between Drogba/Balotelli is bigger than Silva/Bale.

You show zero understanding of footy. Arsenal play Wilshere in a deeper role - you bloody love your stats don't you? I should call you Rafa. Paul Scholes has barely assisted over the past few years but he's still extremely creative, if only indirectly. The creative player isn't always the one who makes the final pass - again that's basic football knowledge.

Yes they are. Both strong posession retainers and can pick a pass, especially Wilshere who is just as good offensively as he is defensively. It's not his fault that Wenger put him in a deeper role alongside Song in order to get the best out of Fabregas (and to a lesser extent, Nasri).

I've already said he's a very good player.

Yet again you're making assumptions and flat out lying. I dare you to find a single post where I have said he isn't a good passer, or a good player in general. You're making up shite as per. Twist, twist, twist. For the record Wilshere is better both offensively and defensively.

Once again making up crap and answering your own question. Well done mate - brilliant way of debating. That's your way of debating though isn't it? Making up crap, twisting arguements and throwing in an insult every other sentence. Bravo mate.

Cabeye is a very good player, strong in all areas, but he's not as creative as Wilshere, nor is he as good when it comes to possession retaining. That doesn't mean that I don't rate him.

And who exactly did he play against when he scored all those goals? There's a reason why many Chelsea fans want to get rid of him. He's average beyond belief and wouldn't look out of place in a mid-table team. All you do is look at stats and ignore the bigger picture.

Twisting abd bending arguements yet again. At City he also has Aguero, Dzeko, Nasri, Johnson, Toure and this season has played for the team that probably creates more chances than probably every other team bar Spurs. Here he's quite clearly the lone striker in a side that is more defensive and less creative than the one he's at currently.

What brilliant logic. You're comparing Balotelli, who everyone knows has a huge ego + can act like a brat to Tim Howard who has never shown an incling of wanting to touch kids. Listen to yourself. Which one of them is more likely?

Oh but hang on....you don't care about injuries when talking about Drogba's form. For the record I don't care about injuries here, as I've already said countless times. Sandro is playing alongside Modric, Huddlestone and Parker. Who does Kalou have? Mata, Sturridge and Anelka - 2 of whom weren't at Chelsea for all/much of last season, and this season Mata has played a lot of football on the inside instead of Lampard. Anyone who has watched Chelsea would no that.

Because you're saying Skrtel's form means Agger has been poor - utter rubbish. Agger has kept Carragher out of the team. I could use your logic and say Ferdinand outperformed Vidic in 07/08 - does that mean Vidic isn't a top defender? I'll go one further - at Milan (you know, the team I apparently fap over) Baresi outperformed Maldini. Did that mean Maldini wasn't great? Let's go on a lesser scale - it's arguable that Calvalho outperformed Terry at Chelsea under Mourinho, does that mean I can scoff at Terry? No.

Your logic is unbelievable flawed.

Playing for a team in a crisis. You ask Chelsea fans what they think of Drogba and they'll still say he's a great player. Hernandez is in poor form this season, have you scoffed at whoever picked him?

What's weirder is the way you continue to lie, twist and fail to see the bigger picture. I'm pretty sure you've spent half your time over the past day looking up stats.

Cabaye isn't really, certainly not as good as Wilshere and if you're planning on playing Silva in a deeper role (i.e where most possession retainers play) then you're isolating Balotelli even further.

I've watched quite a few Chelsea games recently, and again you're going back to current form yet you said that Rafael is still one of the best RB's in the league. Why is it different for your player? It's quite easy to see/hear what fans think judging by crowd reactions/phone ins (I've listened to a few on talksport/R5L after United games) aswell as reactions from journalists. Individually you may dismiss these but they all point in the same direction.

Fine. Tell Daulta not to ask me. Believe it or not I don't think this as seriously as you so it's no problem.

I don't ignore stats - I take them on board but at the same time I know they can be extremely misleading.

Good for you, do you want me to buy a judjging crown? I'm sure you'd put more effort into it and I'm glad it makes you happy. You might be the greatest judge in drafting history.

Here you go mate: Condescending | What is the Definition of Condescending? | Dictionary.com

I'm not the one who dismisses everyone elses opinion with "you're an idiot" or "pro such as mysel". People in glass houses an' all that.

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"Compensate.......you know nothing about me. Want me to make an assumption, pretty sure you shag your sister. See how easy that is? Idiot".

As you said, I don't know you. However you seem to think you know me?

Bang on the money. I dare you to find posts where I've fapped over Milan with HD. Go on....
I said this in the last post but you ignored it, yet still made the same claim. Brilliant debating, as per. Infact why don't you find posts where I've openly discussed Milan games with HD. As I said, I've watched about 5 Milan games this season and only when they were on tv so I've not fapped my way to a stream out of desperation either.

In the Serie A thread there is over 15 members who have posted more than me. Fapping indeed.

And for the record, I don't support Milan at all. I like them, in the same way Jazz likes Barcelona/Juventus. I'll watch them if they're on tv and have nothing else to do, but the result has no effect on my life - if they lose I'm not fussed and if United play them I'm hoping for as big a win for us as possible.

I don't want them to win the CL either. Not that I need to defend myself to you, but there's a little backstory.

So I didn't have you top because I'm jealous and bitter? Interesting as I literally have no opinion of you, other than I think you can act like a dick (which I'm sure bothers you about as much as your insults bother me). I've never had a conversation with you, don't know you from adam and thus I'm not jealous. For all I know you could be a class person or an utter bellend in real life. Nowt to be jealous of mate.

Abo secretly adores me.

Now, I really don't care about this. It's a bloody game on an internet form and can't be ****ed to argue. By all means carry on - you take this game way too seriously which is extremely sad as I'm sure you have better things to do aswell. Stupid arguement which will achieve nothing for either of us. Have fun drafting, and if Daulta/Flash ever ask me to judge again I'll give you a warning so you can back out. We can't have your precious game ruined now can we? Good luck with the other tournaments.

As Peter Jones says, I'm out