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Manchester United's Most Clinical Player Rankings In Front Of Goal?

Discussion in 'Man Utd Chat' started by Irredentist, Mar 28, 2012.

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Who is United's Current Most Clinical Player in front of Goal?

Poll closed Apr 27, 2012.
Wayne Rooney 13 vote(s) 40.6%
Javier Hernandez 9 vote(s) 28.1%
Danny Welbeck 0 vote(s) 0.0%
Dimitar Berbatov 2 vote(s) 6.3%
Nani 1 vote(s) 3.1%
Ashley Young 0 vote(s) 0.0%
Antonio Valencia 3 vote(s) 9.4%
Michael Owen 3 vote(s) 9.4%
Ryan Giggs 0 vote(s) 0.0%
Ji-Sung Park 1 vote(s) 3.1%

    SimplyGiggs The voice of reason

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    Rooney has a lot of the ball and chases it, but he isn't that good of a finisher, he pops up with the odd outstanding goal but most of his goals just come from sheer perserverance.

    The most clinical is Hernandez who is an outstanding finisher, breaks the line, finds headers and when he gets the ball in the box it's hard to stop him. Second best is probably Owen.

    rishard Regular Members

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    Gotta be Javier for me in spite of his lack of ability with regards to 3 and 4 on the list. Rooney excels on pretty much every other aspect of being a player but Hernandez is just that good with his movement and finishing that it doesn't matter.

    Surprised to see someone voted for Valencia.

    manoob There is no real value for my potatos!

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    rooney because he can score from many different positons. longrange, in the box , who forgets the goal against city, out of nothing! hernandez is a poacher in the box scorer. he might have a better positioning sense than rooney.
    but the amount of goal rooney scores is an fact ! the thing is rooney has other responsblitys too. he gets back, and become kind of an playmaker too. if he was the main forward we would see even more goals from him.

    Nachito Coronel The Mexican Boy George

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    It has to be Chicharito surely

    Flash Saviour of the Forum

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    We can work this out....

    We can find out how many shots they've had and how many of those have been on target, that gives us their accuracy. If we take their shots on target and their goals we can find how clinical they are in converting shots on goal.


    Just the Premier League -

    Code:
               Goals Shots(on goal) Accuracy Clinicality
    
    Rooney     21    120  (55)      45.83%   38.18%
    Hernandez   9     40  (22)      55.00%   40.90%
    Welbeck     7     59  (27)      45.76%   25.92%
    Berbatov    7     15  ( 9)      60.00%   77.77%
    Nani        6     56  (16)      28.57%   37.50%
    Young       4     42  (18)      42.85%   22.22%
    Valencia    3     15  ( 5)      33.33%   60.00%
    Giggs       2     14  ( 7)      50.00%   28.57%
    Park        2     11  ( 5)      45.45%   40.00%
    

    In the Premier League this season, it's actually Berbatov.

    Source - Manchester United Stats 2011-2012

    manoob There is no real value for my potatos!

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    how about how many minutes the are on pitch??? and the role they play than. roony sometimes work at the wings, other times behind forward, and than there are times he is the main forward. kind of difficult. the main forward allways get more chances, and dont need to go back much and tire themselfs.

    JJtheRed F*ck your stats....

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    The other candidates are valid shouts... Maybe not one-on-one (can't see a time when he'll get a chance like that) but if the ball was dropping in the area, scrapily or not:

    Scholes
    Rooney
    Berbatov
    Owen

    ...would be the player I'd like to see on the end of it

    peterswellman All Round Nice Guy

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    Owen and Hernandez. Not even close to the rest.

    Becks'disciple Regular Members

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    no seriously, are people actually telling me they'd rather see another footballer at our club at the end of a goal scoring opportunity who's not Wayne? I mean, the lad scores all types of goals. He can smack it from distance, score it with his left boot, header it, poach it, finish 1 on 1's yet for some reason some would rather see someone else. This season we've literally seen him score almost every type of goal in the book.

    Hernandez is a decent fisher but he's not close to the best. He messes up way to many control's for it to be him. We've seen him in recent games struggle to control the ball hence messing up the chance, not so clinical I tell ya.

    Welbeck is just awful in front of goal.

    Berba simply couldn't be arsed to take shots at range or poach a goal. He's tall but never headers.

    For our sake, when a scoring opportunity comes I'm far more confident when Wayne is at the end of it than anyone at the club.

    As for those stats they are just bogus. They don't take into account that wayne takes far more hail mary shots than anyone in the club. The only other person who does that is Nani and as you can see his stats aren't flattering.

    Irredentist Regular Members

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    Father forgive me for I have sinned...
    I was high over Nani's video of the Community Shield 2011 before making this thread...
    The way his Goals beat Joe Hart made myself and SAF purr like a cat
    I promise if you forgive me my sins never to covet my neighbors goals
    But father, how the hell can Nani not have World Footballer of the Year season after that?


    Back to the thread, I'm still obsessed with a player's other foot theory. You've all made fantastic contributions. However, most of the ranking will change dramatically because the player with the best other foot is Nani...

    TFIA TEAM STANNIS!

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    Well actually I find that when judging best goalscorer the number of goals scored probably should have something to do with it.

    What should we judge it on? Tackles made?

    It's Rooney, helluva a lot more clinical than he gets credit for.

    Irredentist Regular Members

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    You are right number of goals scored should have a lot to do with. However, for a professional with immense technical ability, needing too many shots before one goals is a wrecker of clinicality! I mean I may as well put myself in the team and do it for 10% of Rooney's wage. Here is an area where Barca (with formations code that moves weapon for Syrian rebels)should be admired. If Messi takes as many shots on target as Rooney, I bet you he's get 70 to 80% goal to shot ratio. It is also an area where Messi beat our former "Port of Geese" ace... Which means Rooney should be past 40 goals already.

    tkmikkelsen Hammer of the Gods

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    Best finisher in the United squad is by a mile Berbatov. His accuracy is amazing and almost always hits within the goalposts. 2nd best probably Hernandez and then Rooney.

    TFIA TEAM STANNIS!

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    Messi takes more shots than Rooney and does not have that goal ratio.

    TFIA TEAM STANNIS!

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    I assume you spent the 2009/2010 season under a rock.

    cadell Quadrospazzed on a life-glug

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    Chicharito. Even with a lack of starts and supposedly poor form he has a great conversion rate.
    After that Owen and Rooney. Have to disagree with people saying Rooney's long range shooting is good,it's been poor for a long time.

    Flash Saviour of the Forum

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    for 2010-2011

    Code:
               Goals Shots(on goal) Accuracy Clinicality
    
    Rooney     11     99  (40)      40.40%   27.50%
    Hernandez  13     54  (24)      44.44%   54.16%
    Welbeck     6     54  (18)      33.33%   33.33%      (Sunderland)
    Berbatov   20     98  (42)      42.85%   47.61%
    Nani        9    135  (39)      28.05%   23.07%
    Young       7     83  (34)      40.96%   20.58%      (Aston Villa)
    Giggs       2     32  ( 8)      25.00%   25.00%
    Park        5     18  ( 8)      44.44%   62.50%

    Average over last 2 seasons -

    Code:
               Goals Shots(on goal) Accuracy Clinicality
    
    Rooney     32    219  (95)      43.37%   33.68%
    Hernandez  22     94  (46)      48.93%   47.82%
    Welbeck    13    113  (45)      39.82%   28.88%
    Berbatov   27    113  (51)      45.13%   52.94%
    Nani       15    191  (55)      28.79%   27.27%
    Young      11    125  (52)      41.60%   21.15%
    Giggs       4     46  (15)      32.60%   26.66%
    Park        7     29  (13)      44.82%   53.84%

    hdcantona Member of the Year 2012

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    this for what clinicality really is.
    Chicharito for what the OP said.

    Parksey10 crushed like a bug in the ground

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    Stats can be deceptive.

    Flash Saviour of the Forum

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    Some can be, but these are solid.

    People's perceptions are the most deceptive.

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