Manchester United's Most Clinical Player Rankings In Front Of Goal?

I think we can all agree that Berbatov is not our most clinical striker.

those stats dont take into consideration opposition, pressure, composure, confidence, current scoreline, or time on the clock

deceptive

Those things don't enter into it.

When a player takes a shot they are hoping to hit the target (actually they're hoping to score) we can measure how often they hit the target and that tells us how accurate they are. Of their accurate shots we can find how many they convert into goals which gives us their clinicality.

If you want to dispute that, fine, but that has more to do with your own perception of the player than the actual fact.

For example what is your perception when Rooney misses a chance? Is it "f*cks sake, he's shit" or is it "Yeah, Rooney!", those perceptions shape your idea of the player. Positive perceptions shape positive ideas, negative perceptions shape negative ideas.

People still perceive Hernandez to be a deadly finisher while actually this season he hasn't, most recent example where he couldn't even get a shot away when 1 on 1 with the keeper, yet because he holds a positive perception people still think of him positively.

Perceptions are the most deceptive of things.

Not really. Rooney takes more shots than most players in the Premiership; he tries his luck from everywhere. Therefore, his goals to shots ratio is going to be lower than a guy who only shoots when he's in on goal.

personal perception cannot provide a definitive answer...

When he takes a shot is he not aiming at goal??

Didn't Fergie say Macheda was the best natural finsisher at the club? Seems so long ago now...

Turn it up, of course he's trying to score a goal. It's just some players, Rooney included, are prone to trying their luck from outrageous angles and distances. I'd say Rooney has had the most shots in our whole squad this year by a good margin.

Which the stats back up. Whether you're trying to hit the target from 40 yards or 4 yards, whether you hit the target or not shows how accurate you are, if you're able to convert the accurate shots, shows how clinical you are.

Clinicality is the percentage of chances converted, it's that simple. If a player needs 1 chance to score a goal and another needs 5, which is more clinical?

Im my opinion, being clinical is taking the good chances that come your way. Rooney very rarely gives up a good chance in and around the box.

Valencia has seemed pretty clinical considering how long he was out and the fact that he doesn't get as many shots as many of our central players. When he shoots he doesn't often seem to miss and if he does it's not usually by much.

Overall though I would probably go for Rooney, Hernandez or Scholes to be most likely to finish inside the box. I would have added Owen to that list but I'm not sure if he still plays football or not.

The facts show different to your opinion because of his shots on target over the last 2 season he's only converted 33.68%, about 1 in 3 chances, which isn't that terrible but he's not our most clinical.

rooneys clinical

Can you actually follow a conversation or what?

We'd just established that Rooney takes more shots than anyone in the team. Trying your luck with a chip from 30 yards and missing doesn't really mean that you aren't clinical. When he gets a good chance he buries it more often than not.

No, that's accuracy.

No, he doesn't, of his shots on target (the ones he's accurate with) only 33.68% are converted to goals (past 2 seasons).

If your perception is that he's better than that, then it's your perception that is wrong. Can you even think of any chances he's missed??

You still don't seem to get that with the amount of shots he has, he's going to have a higher percentage of poor/weak shots on goal and therefore a lower goals to shots ratio.

You're over-thinking things with your facts.

Just a bit of food for thought;

Cristiano Ronaldo's shots to goals ration was 21% as of November last year. Does that mean he's not clinical?

The question is who is our most clinical. 33% over the last 2 season is still pretty clinical (1 in 3) but he's not our most clinical, which is the question.

btw last season in La Liga -

Code:

           Goals Shots(On Target) Accuracy Clinicality
Ronaldo    40    250  (102)       40.80%   39.21%

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Yep, have to agree. If he didn't injure himself before the ball reached him first, that is.

If you had a look back my posts in the first page, I actually said that he wasn't our most clinical striker. All I was trying to show was that your whole "perception" theory was wrong in regards to Rooney.