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Discussion in 'All Other Sports' started by Moon Utd, Jul 31, 2009.

  1. Moon Utd

    Moon Utd Statto

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    Anyone else manage to stay awake to watch the All Star game? I was watching it at the same time as the Oscars!

    Plenty of scoring and nice that it got a little 'tense' towards the end with the West holding on to win. Kevin Durant was the MVP.
  2. JJtheRed

    JJtheRed This is how it feels to be City....

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    Didn't catch the game, watched the Dunk contest though, it's not what it was... :(
  3. Moon Utd

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    The USA have announced a 20 man preliminary Olympic squad which will be trimmed to 12 players for the London Games.

    BBC Sport - London 2012: LeBron James and Kobe Bryant in US Olympic squad

    My predicted 12 are in red.

    Point Guard
    Chris Paul (Los Angeles Clippers), Derrick Rose (Chicago), Russell Westbrook (Oklahoma City), Deron Williams (New Jersey)

    Shooting Guard
    Chauncey Billups (Los Angeles Clippers), Kobe Bryant (Los Angeles Lakers), Eric Gordon (New Orleans), Dwyane Wade (Miami)

    Small Forward
    Carmelo Anthony (New York Knicks), Kevin Durant (Oklahoma City), Rudy Gay (Memphis), Andre Iguodala (Philadelphia), LeBron James (Miami), Lamar Odom (Dallas)

    Power Forward
    LaMarcus Aldridge (Portland), Chris Bosh (Miami), Blake Griffin (Los Angeles Clippers), Kevin Love (Minnesota)

    Center
    Tyson Chandler (New York Knicks), Dwight Howard (Orlando)
  4. RedDevil99

    RedDevil99 Regular Members

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    Why have 4 PGs and 1 Center?
  5. Moon Utd

    Moon Utd Statto

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    It's possible LaMarcus Aldridge will go as the second 'center' / power forward big man for the front-court. I'm working on the premise that Oklahoma Thunder are one of the best teams in the NBA right now, and both Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook combined to score a bunch of points in the All Star Game this weekend. Plus Westbrook was effectively playing like a 'two guard' (SG) on the court with Chris Paul, Tony Parker, or Steve Nash for the Western Conference.

    You have another great combo with Chris Paul and Blake Griffin (Clippers teammates), and I can't imagine either of Rose or Deron Williams being left off the team. By the time the summer comes around, Deron may have Dwight Howard as a Nets teammate.

    Therefore I was selecting six backcourt guards, and six frontcourt forwards / centers. I can see the USA playing a fast-paced scoring game, while also pressuring opponents who are more likely to shoot than dunk.

    I think their starting line-up will be:

    Derrick Rose & Kobe Bryant at the guard positions
    LeBron James & Kevin Durant at the forward positions
    Dwight Howard at center

    And how disheartening would it be for opponents to see Dwyane Wade, Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, Deron Williams, and Carmelo Anthony coming off the bench? Then you have Kevin Love and Russell Westbrook warming the end of the bench?! Stunning team!

    A lot can change in the rest of this season. If the Heat win the title, then maybe Chris Bosh makes the team as well. It may also be that LeBron James and D.Wade have enough influence to ensure their buddy comes with them to London. There are always injuries that can keep somebody out of the Games.

    The other reasoning behind my selections is which players are considered big names, partly on the strength of their All Star game appearances. The NBA wants to promote itself globally and there's no better way than to put their superstars (and young stars) in the Olympic team.

    In blue is their position today (29th Feb) in the NBA Top 50 Scoring table:

    14 Kobe Bryant (14 starts for the West) 1st

    8 LeBron James (8 starts for the East) 3rd
    8 Dwyane Wade (7 starts and 1 reserve appearance for the East) 7th

    6 Dwight Howard (5 starts and 1 reserve appearance for the East) 16th

    5 Chris Paul (3 starts and 2 reserve appearances for the West) 18th
    5 Carmelo Anthony (1 start for the East, 3 starts and 1 reserve appearance for the West) 13th

    3 Derrick Rose (2 starts and 1 reserve appearance for the East) 10th
    3 Kevin Durant (2 starts and 1 reserve appearance for the West) 2nd
    3 Deron Williams (1 reserve appearance for the East, and 2 reserve appearances for the West) 11th

    2 Blake Griffin (1 start and 1 reserve appearance for the West) 12th
    2 Kevin Love (2 reserve appearances for the West) 4th
    2 Russell Westbrook (2 reserve appearances for the West) 6th

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    7 Chris Bosh (1 start and 6 reserve appearances for the East) 23rd

    5 Chauncey Billups (2 reserve appearances for the West, and 3 reserve appearances for the East)

    1 LaMarcus Aldridge (one reserve appearance for the West) 8th
    1 Andre Iguodala (one reserve appearance for the East)

    0 Lamar Odom
    0 Tyson Chandler
    0 Rudy Gay 21st
    0 Eric Gordon 14th
  6. dualtamac

    dualtamac Your arms are just too short to box with God

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    Blake Griffin > God

    Ricky Rubio > Jesus
  7. Moon Utd

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    The 20 chosen by the USA also leaves out quite a lot of big names:

    Ray Allen
    Carlos Boozer
    Andrew Bynum
    Tim Duncan
    Monta Ellis
    Kevin Garnett
    Danny Granger
    Roy Hibbert
    Al Horford
    Kyle Irving
    Al Jefferson
    Brandon Jennings
    Joe Johnson
    Jason Kidd
    David Lee
    Brook Lopez
    Kevin Martin
    Paul Pierce
    Zach Randolph
    Rajon Rondo
    Josh Smith
    Amar'e Stoudemire
    John Wall


    And ineligible because they're not American .........

    Dirk Nowitzki (Germany)
    Steve Nash (Canada)
    Tony Parker (France)
    Andrea Bargnani (Italy)
    Paul Gasol (Spain)
    Marc Gasol (Spain)
    Manu Ginobili (Argentina)
    Marcin Gortat (Poland)
    Luol Deng (GB)
  8. Moon Utd

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    Interesting NBA trade happened last night. Monte Ellis (with Ekpe Udoh and Kwame Brown) went from the Golden State Warriors to the Milwaukee Bucks in exchange for Andrew Bogut and Stephen Jackson. It might just be the catalyst to start things moving around the League. Will the Lakers trade Pau Gasol? Will the New York Knicks do anything to halt their recent losing streak? Will Dwight Howard finally leave the Orlando Magic, or play the rest of the season before leaving before / after the Olympics?
  9. AidanNelson2009

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    How long until the deadline ? Also, that's a weird trade, never thought the Golden State Warriors would let go of Monta Ellis.

    I don't think Lakers will trade Gasol, but they need to do something because they need a true PG. As for the Knicks, well, they have a pretty good team, but just cannot 'click' and i don't know whether they should just take a massive gamble and move Anthony on, or Stoudamire.

    And last, i think the Magic have to trade Howard, he has openly admitted he wants to leave, trade him now and get something in return or risk losing him for nothing.
  10. AidanNelson2009

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    2012 Trade Deadline Tracker

    Wizards get:
    • F/C Nene
    • F Brian Cook
    • Future second-round pick
    Clippers get:
    • G Nick Young
    Nuggets get:
    • C JaVale McGee
    • F/C Ronny Turiaf

    Rockets get:
    • G Derek Fisher
    • 2012 first-round pick
    Lakers get:
    • F/C Jordan Hill

    Rockets get:
    • C Marcus Camby
    Blazers get:
    • C Hasheem Thabeet
    • G Jonny Flynn
    • 2012 second-round draft pick

    Lakers get:
    • G Ramon Sessions
    • F Christian Eyenga
    • Rights to swap Heat's 2013 first-round draft pick
    Cavaliers get:
    • F Luke Walton
    • 2012 first-round pick

    Nets get:
    • F Gerald Wallace
    Blazers get:
    • F/C Mehmet Okur
    • F Shawne Williams
    • Protected first-round pick

    Pacers get:
    • G Leandro Barbosa
    Raptors get:
    • Second-round draft pick

    Pacers get:
    • G Leandro Barbosa
    Raptors get:
    • Second-round draft pick

    Sixers get:
    • G Sam Young
    Grizzlies get:
    • Future considerations

    Warriors get:
    • C Andrew Bogut
    • G/F Stephen Jackson
    Bucks get:
    • G Monta Ellis
    • C Kwame Brown
    • C Ekpe Udoh

    Spurs get:
    • F/G Stephen Jackson
    Warriors get:
    • F Richard Jefferson
    • Conditional first-round pick
  11. Moon Utd

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    Some very interesting moves yesterday, but the Dwight Howard move away from Orlando Magic never happened!

    By my calculation, the 30 starting line-ups now look like this around the NBA:

    PG = Point Guard
    SG = Shooting Guard
    SF = Small Forward
    PF = Power Forward
    C = Center

    Players in red were chosen for the 2012 NBA All Star Game, and those in bold were the ten starters.

    EASTERN CONFERENCE

    Atlantic Division

    Philadelphia 76ers - PG Jrue Holliday, SG Evan Turner, SF Andre Iguodala, PF Elton Brand, C Spencer Hawes

    Boston Celtics - PG Rajon Rondo, SG Ray Allen, SF Paul Pierce, PF Kevin Garnett, C Jermaine O'Neal

    New York Knicks - PG Jeremy Lin, SG Landry Fields, SF Carmelo Anthony, PF Amar'e Stoudemire, C Tyson Chandler

    New Jersey Nets - PG Deron Williams, SG Marshon Brooks, SF Gerald Wallace, PF Kris Humphries, C Brook Lopez

    Toronto Raptors - PG Jerryd Bayless, SG DeMar DeRozan, SF James Johnson, PF Andrea Bargnani, C Amir Johnson


    Central Division

    Chicago Bulls - PG Derrick Rose, SG Richard Hamilton, SF Luol Deng, PF Carlos Boozer, C Joakim Noah

    Indiana Pacers - PG Darren Collison, SG Paul George, SF Danny Granger, PF David West, C Roy Hibbert

    Milwaukee Bucks - PG Brandon Jennings, SG Monta Ellis, SF Carlos Delfino, PF Drew Gooden, C Ekpe Udoh

    Cleveland Cavaliers - PG Kyrie Irving, SG Anthony Parker, SF Omri Casspi, PF Antawn Jamison, C Semih Erden (C Anderson Varejao is injured)

    Detroit Pistons - PG Brandon Knight, SG Rodney Stuckey, SF Tayshaun Prince, PF Jason Maxiell, C Greg Monroe


    Southeast Division

    Miami Heat - PG Mario Chalmers, SG Dwyane Wade, SF LeBron James, PF Chris Bosh, C Joel Anthony

    Orlando Magic - PG Jameer Nelson, SG Jason Richardson, SF Hedo Turkoglu, PF Ryan Anderson, C Dwight Howard

    Atlanta Hawks - PG Jeff Teague, SG Joe Johnson, SF Marvin Williams, PF Josh Smith, C Zaza Pachulia

    Washington Wizards - PG John Wall, SG Jordan Crawford, SF Chris Singleton, PF Trevor Booker, C Nene Hilario

    Charlotte Bobcats - PG DJ Augustin, SG Gerald Henderson, SF Corey Maggette, PF Boris Diaw, C Bismack Biyombo


    WESTERN CONFERENCE

    Southwest Division

    San Antonio Spurs - PG Tony Parker, SG Manu Ginobili, SF Stephen Jackson, PF Tim Duncan, C DeJuan Blair

    Memphis Grizzlies - PG Mike Conley, SG Tony Allen, SF Rudy Gay, PG Marreese Speights, C Marc Gasol

    Dallas Mavericks - PG Jason Kidd, SG Rodrique Beaubois, SF Shawn Marion, PF Dirk Nowitzki, C Brendan Haywood

    Houston Rockets - PG Derek Fisher, SG Kevin Martin, SF Chandler Parsons, PF Luis Scola, C Marcus Camby

    New Orleans Hornets - PG Jarrett Jack, SG Marco Belinelli, SF Al-Farouq Amini, PF Gustavo Ayon, C Chris Kaman (SG Eric Gordon & C Emeka Okafor are injured)


    Northwest Division

    Oklahoma City Thunder - PG Russell Westbrook, SG Daequan Cook, SF Kevin Durant, PF Serge Ibaka, C Kendrick Perkins (SG Thabo Sefolosha is injured)

    Denver Nuggets - PG Ty Lawson, SG Arron Afflalo, SF Corey Brewer, PF Kenneth Faried, C JaVale McGee

    Minnesota Timberwolves - PG Luke Ridnour, SG Martell Webster, SF Wesley Johnson, PF Kevin Love, C Nikola Pekovic (PG Ricky Rubio is injured)

    Utah Jazz - PG Devin Harris, SG Raja Bell, SF Josh Howard, PF Paul Millsap, C Al Jefferson

    Portland Trailblazers - PG Raymond Felton, SG Nicolas Batum, SF Wesley Matthews, PF LaMarcus Aldridge, C Mehmet Okur


    Pacific Division

    LA Lakers - PG Steve Blake, SG Kobe Bryant, SF Metta World Peace, PF Pau Gasol, C Andrew Bynum

    LA Clippers - PG Chris Paul, SG Nick Young, SF Caron Butler, PF Blake Griffin, C DeAndre Jordan

    Phoenix Suns - PG Steve Nash, SG Jared Dudley, SF Grant Hill, PF Channing Frye, C Marcin Gortat

    Golden State Warriors - PG Stephen Curry, SG Klay Thompson, SF Richard Jefferson, PF David Lee, C Andris Biedrins (C Andrew Bogut is injured)

    Sacramento Kings - PG Isaiah Thomas, SG Marcus Thornton, SF Tyreke Evans, PF Jason Thompson, C DeMarcus Cousins
  12. SuperPro69

    SuperPro69 Chicharooney!

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    I'mma Laker fan, love the team, super fun to watch. Sessions is beastin it up! But I still think if the Thunders beat the Bulls on Sunday, then they will win it all this year.
  13. Nachito Coronel

    Nachito Coronel The Mexican Boy George

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    I've been a huge San Antonio Spurs fan for a while, glad to see them doing well this year, maybe we lack a true star that can take over a la Durant or Lebron, but I can't think of a deeper better coached team in the league.
  14. RedDevil99

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    The Bulls ;)
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    Umm, Spurs are definitely are better coached and have plenty of star options. Tony Parker can be virtually unguardable with how quick he is. Tim Duncan is almost as unguardable based on his smarts at this stage in his career. That's not to mention Manu who is their big player in the playoffs when they need something. Can't believe more people don't have them listed as the favorites to win it all.

    And this is coming from a hometown Thunder fan.

    Only one team that I don't think we would have a shot at is the Spurs. Other than that, I like the Thunder's chances.
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  16. SuperPro69

    SuperPro69 Chicharooney!

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    Thunders bout to win it all. Thunders vs. Bulls final, leggggo.
  17. Nachito Coronel

    Nachito Coronel The Mexican Boy George

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    It's absolutely criminal how underrated the Spurs are, I like them this year a lot thanks to how deep they've become, Popovich is easily the best coach in the league the way he manages all aspects of the team is absolutely superb, Leonard was an absolute steal for them in the draft, he has the potential to be a more athletic version of Bruce Bowen, plus adding Stephen Jackson and Boris Diaw during the deadline was key, gives them that extra bit of quality for their second unit.
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    Not that big of a fan of the Stephen Jackson move, but Tim Duncan was super pumped about it so that says more than I can about it.

    Barring injury, smart money should be on the Spurs.

    Memphis is a huge dark horse in the playoffs. The are starting to peak, and for whatever reason, they get all the calls from officials while raping other teams with their thuggish defense.
  19. Nachito Coronel

    Nachito Coronel The Mexican Boy George

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    I don't know, Popovich seems to rate him quite highly as well since helping them win the title back in 03, knows the system well, can shoot from beyond the arch and is a good defender, I know he's had his issues, but I can see Pop setting him straight.

    I'm absolutely terrified of Memphis btw, they have a fantastic frontcourt and Tony Allen is easily one of the best man to man defenders in the league, plus Rudy Gay gives them that extra wing scorer to relieve some pressure from the likes of Randolph and Gasol, they are not only deep but have that menacing style that frustrates the shit out of other teams.
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    Celtics are getting hot too now, with another big win against the Heat.

    Gonna be an amazing playoffs. There are at least 3 teams in the East that have a shot: Chicago, Miami and Boston.

    The West is even crazier. Only team I don't fear is the Lakers. Kobe is Kobe, but that team is falling apart.

    Denver is falling apart, but they can get hot enough to take out anyone in a 5 game series. Crazy to think that Phoenix is in the hunt for a playoff spot, but wouldn't be worried about them though.

    Houston could be a bogey team, but if the Spurs meet Dallas in the first round (as it stands), that will be an epic start to the playoffs.

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