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Ozil - The Özil Thread

Discussion in 'Transfer Talk' started by tonnas, Jun 13, 2010.

    jony9 Regular Members

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    RISING STAR: Mesut Ozil

    German World Cup wizard Mesut Ozil reckons he would be just the trick for Manchester United.

    Reds boss Sir Alex Ferguson watched the Werder Bremen ace (below) in the Bundesliga last year – even before the midfield man’s form in South Africa upped his profile.

    The 21-year-old Ozil has shot to higher prominence with his influence on Joachim Loew’s young team.

    And the playmaker, of Turkish descent, is now keen to chase trophies in England.

    “The World Cup is all that matters at the moment. When I get back we can think about my future, but for now it’s not something I want to give a lot of thought to,” he said.

    “To the top players the Premier League is attractive. You look at what United and Chelsea have achieved over the last five years and you see it would be easy to be successful at two clubs like that. I see what Michael Ballack achieved at Chelsea and the quality of players he played with and the temptation becomes obvious.

    “Trophies are what matters to me. There are two teams in England always at the top and of course that’s attractive.

    “But the same is true for La Liga. They’re the strongest leagues in the world.”

    Werder Bremen are reluctant sellers, but admit that a bid of around £25m would be too tempting to turn down. Ozil would certainly tick the boxes for Fergie as an engine-room influence in the Paul Scholes mould.

    Scholes has been handed a new 12-month contract but has suggested the new season is likely to be his swansong as a player and the German would fit the bill as one of a new young generation

    MikeyM Big Daddy

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    Trevman Regular Members

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    Am I right in thinking that Werder Bremen were reportedly interested in Berbatov?

    jony9 Regular Members

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    this is the type of player we should buy,,

    yazman Regular Members

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    definately the type of player we need, but can't hold our breath!

    Menlo Aka Menlo(ve)

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    Would be excellent in a United shirt, I'm rubbish at estimating the value of players, how much do you reckon lads and lasses?

    Sownak27 There's Only One Darren Fletcher!

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    £25m would be a good starting point. Nothing below that anyway.

    Menlo Aka Menlo(ve)

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    Maybe he could be a possibility, although I think we'd be hard pushed to find £25 million to spend on him.

    hdcantona Member of the Year 2012 & 2013

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    I would say 20/25 million + because he's in the last year of his contract, which helps take off the price rise from the world cup.

    Flash Saviour of the Forum

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    £25m for a player in the last year of contract, who we knew little or nothing about before the WC is a bit over the top.

    £15m would be more acceptable, be cautious when buying players based on how they've performed in the few games that is the WC.

    Ozil clearly has talent but he wouldn't be the 1st star of a major tournament that went on to disappoint when joining a big club.

    Sownak27 There's Only One Darren Fletcher!

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    If what Sir Alex said about David Villa is true, then we might have around £35-£40m to spend. That said, he says there is no "value" in the market, which I think is right, because the involvement of a club like Manchester United will immediately raise the asking price by about 20%. Whether or not Sir Alex thinks Özil is worth the £25m or whatever it is, is a different issue. Its tough to find players from foreign leagues who immediately adapt to the Premier League, some players who have already played here find it difficult to find their form -- like Berbatov. I think since then, Sir Alex has become a lot more cautious about signing players, especially big name ones for high fees. Which is why we spend £20m over a couple of players, like the singing of Hernández and Smalling.

    @ Flash: He is in his final year, but one had to factor in price rises from a good performance in a World Cup. Keep in mind also the fact that Werder have reached the play-offs for the European Cup, so they will hope to hold onto Özil to progress in the competition. Teams nowadays always charge silly money for their star players no matter how far into the contract he is.

    hdcantona Member of the Year 2012 & 2013

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    he asked what his value was, I would think 15 is more reasonable too, but in today's market, you can add 5/10 on top...

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    Could there be any possibilty of a deal including Berbatov maybe, he still has a good reputation in Germany from what I gather.

    Flash Saviour of the Forum

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    I reckon Fergie will wait to see how Cleverley and maybe Eikrem develop before buying another player in that position and at that age. If they don't progress then he'll probably buy next year after Scholes and Giggs retire.

    From what's out there atm I would rather us move for Jovetic probably a bit better than Ozil and without WC hype attached we could get him for £15-£20m

    MikeyM Big Daddy

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    Cleverley over Ozil? If he thinks that then the old bloke has lost it. Cleverley's good yes, but Ozil has performed on the World stage, and is a major reason why Germany have gone so far in the tournament.

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    That definitely isn't what I said.

    MikeyM Big Daddy

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    Well to be fair, Cleverley is not going to turn out to be a world class player, in fact I don't feel confident that any of our young players will. It's not a question of talent, it's a question of drive. They just don't seem to make the big step up. Look at Eagles and Richardson a couple of years ago.

    If you're looking at what's out there now in terms of AM, then I say get Ozil and offload some of the deadwood like Carrick and Gibson. We need proven world class players to compete - look at the teams we're competing with. If any one of them got Ozil it will come back to kick us in the ass again and again.

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    How much did you know about Ozil before the world cup? How did he perform for Bremen?

    He is a talented player but I wouldn't be so quick to write off our own talented players, It's mostly down to how big a player's profile is and obviously Ozil's a quite big atm but there is nothing stopping Cleverley going on loan next season in the Prem and raising his own profile to a point where he's wildly considered one of the brightest prospects like Wiltshire or Rodwell.

    Look at Shawcross, Rossi, Pique. Player's who couldn't get into our 1st XI but immediately made an impact at their respective clubs and now have a profile high enough to be welcomed back no problem.

    When you're talking about 'proven' players then Carrick definitely ticks that box better than Ozil, yes he didn't have a great season last but he is still proven in the Prem and there's no guarantee that Ozil would adapt, so it would be foolish to do that.

    NoxiousD There is no Noxiousd, only ZUUL

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    Eagles and Richardson were never nailed on talents...

    HUM Hummmmmmm

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    1- he wants us
    2-we want him
    3-fergie likes him
    4-doesnt cost that much when considering his abilities and age
    this is getting serious, fingers crossed hopefully something happens

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