Discussion in 'Foreign Leagues' started by martinutd, Feb 13, 2012.
Rangers will be in division 3! breaking news
I feel sorry for the supporters in this.
Absolutely the correct decision.
How many players have joined the new Rangers any way? I have no clue at all. Some went to different clubs.
I'm actually very surprised at this, I honestly thought they'd sneak into division one.
Good on all the clubs who voted against Rangers.
I think by the time Rangers return to the SPL, Celtic may of won a couple of titles, though it gives other teams a great chance to win the league.
Delighted with today's news. Rangers lost the vote with 25 clubs out of 30 voting for Division 3.
The right decision has been made, so hopefully this is the end. There were initial suggestions that because this decision has been made, they were going to look into an SPL2, but the other clubs involved have rejected this and said this was never on the agenda so it looks like trouble-making. At least now though, they get to live their dream of playing in England. Berwick Rangers away!
This won't fix Scottish football, but it's an important step which will hopefully only be the first of many. Doncaster and Regan must consider their positions, because their conduct through this has been unacceptable and their work of trying to get Rangers into the SPL or Divison 1 has been rejected by the clubs. They need to go.
I'm sure I read that they only have 5 first team players, they have a transfer embargo so they cant sign anyone else.
I reckon they'll be playing with a few 16/17 year olds this coming season.
and what is the real difference between them and us ?
they owed far less
I'm not sure what'll happen with the players they have. Some of the players they have that are staying with the newco will have to take huge wage reductions, because there's no way they could afford their wages in Division 3.
They'll have to play mostly young players, or sign players experienced at that level to get them up. (I'm not entirely sure what's going on with the transfer embargo, but I think even under a transfer embargo they can sign players who are out of contract).
Article here on where they are up to regarding the penalties previously issue to Rangers.
Meeting to take place next week to decide.
So lob us out for owing fortunes
We still exist?
It really doesn't. Celtic will absolutely dominate the leagues, they may, as always slip up in cup competitions but the league is theirs for the next 5 years IMO at least.
IF things happen as people want it might not necessarily be the case. If the t.v deal falls apart then they take a huge hit, if the money in the league starts getting distributed evenly then again they take a big hit. They will be forced into cut backs like everyone else will.
Ofcourse, its a big IF.
They still have youth systems worlds ahead of anyone else, have worldwide revenue which no one else, not even Rangers, can come even close to competing with. The only chance the other clubs have is if Celtic finally petition their way into England, where I think they'd very quickly establish themselves, provided they start in the lower divisions.
Rangers will shoot up these league's btw. They're gone for 3-4 years, tops.
No they don't, not even close to it.
Worldwide revenue from where? Ireland yes, where else?
Ofcourse Rangers will be back in 3 years but things will hopefully have changed like I said. Celtic and Rangers eat up half the income into the top league, that won't be the case when they return hopefully.
Yes they do. I'm talking in terms of facilities and prestige, they're MILES ahead of anyone.
Are you serious? Celtic have always been one of the most marketable clubs in world football, they're a very big club worldwide.
Their youth system is nowhere near other clubs, there is f*ck all evidence for you to make that statement. Hearts and Hibs both have facilities equal with Celtic and have been producing far better young players for years than they have. Motherwell and more recently Dundee Utd have all been producing better young players than they have. I'm not quite sure how a youth system gains prestige by producing inferior players. Apart from McGeady I can't think of any good players to come through their youth system.
I have absolutely no idea how much they make worldwide or where it comes from. I'm guessing you won't either. Apparently at the end of 2011 they made a pre tax profit of 180k. Now they will be facing less prize money and potentially less t.v money. How do you think that will look on the balance sheet?
Celtic invested £15m in their Lennoxtown youth facilities, Hearts didn't even spend half of that on theirs. If you really don't think Celtic's facilities are superior you're kidding yourself.
McGeady is the best prospect to come out of Scottish football youth ranks in recent years, I love how you just brush him aside, not many "good" players come through any SPL systems by the standards of top European Football. Mulgrew, Forrest, Kennedy, Crainey, Maloney etc. are all very good players at that standard. They have more prestige because they're a much bigger f**king club, players will choose Celtic over Dundee/Hearts 90% of the time because they are Celtic.
They easily produce the most commerical revenue - It's something like £22m per year, which is higher than the likes of Newcastle United, then taking into account how much higher their attendances are, they'll still have an incredible financial advantage.
Celtic are among top European clubs, they're recognised as a global brand. The other clubs are so far behind it's not worth debating. In the coming years they'll win leagues and win them comfortably, I'd bet anything on it. As for your other point - Managing to even turn a profit is impressive, and the obvious point to make is that without a major rival, the major investment wont be required, they'll still spend money, but they'll be able to control their wage bill with relative ease now. It's very easy for them to prioritise and deal with the situation.