TV WWE/TNA Thread

The genius behind McMahon V Austin, was that it took place largely when Austin legitimately was injured and unable to wrestle (broken neck). It gave Austin a legitimate reason to go after McMahon (who was taking his livelihood away from him) That's one of the major reasons wrestling has nosedived, there's a PPV every month (and major TV shows twice each week) so that the stories and feuds are unable to develop and build.

Plus since Linda is running for Congress, Vince has gone down the "apple pie - kiddies show" route, alienating his core audience and also losing them to MMA and UFC.

It wasn't just the main event that was awesome during the "Attitude Era" - every level of the card was packed with excellent characters and feuds. Austin V Rock kicked off over the Intercontinental Title! DX were in full force, the Tag Team division was packed. New superstars emerged all the time.

It was awesome to see Ken Shamrock as like a midcarder. He'd main event nowadays.

They really, really dropped the ball with him - he'd have been a great WWF Champion.

I agree. He came around at the wrong time I think though. Given guys like Shawn Michaels, Stone Cold, the Rock etc. were around.

He had the look and was decent in the ring but was exactly the best on the mic. Not sure that he had the tools needed to hold and audience that way. Not even by today's standards. Although I do believe he'd have been the champion had he been around today. But I think it's far easier to win a World title in the WWE these days. I mean, you only have to look at some legends like Mr. Perfect, Ted DiBiase, Roddy Piper and Jake Roberts who never won a World title. How many could those four have won between them today?

The one thing that made the 'Attitude' era so great was the fact that Vince was fully motivated to bring something fresh and to create new stars because of the pressure that WCW was putting on him between 1996-98. He doesn't have that today. TNA is not a threat to him. They won't give him sleepless nights in the way that WCW used to. Add to that the fact that ECW packed up around the same time and Vince has basically had a monopoly over the business for the last ten years. It's bad for a few reasons, one of the main ones is that most of the young guys who are learning their trade are schooled by WWE people and they teach them how to work in the same style that 95% of the people on the main roster use. In the days of the territories in the 1970's and '80's there were so many places for a young up-and-comer to learn their trade - by the time Vince got many of them they were experienced pros who bopught a different style and understanding to the ring with them. That has gone now and it's not a good thing at all.

Rikishi upper mid carder? He was in a stable with Scotty 2 Hotty and Grand Master Sexay.



World class. ****in legends.

But yeah, tag team division was something else. TLC matches were incredible;

That's just pathetic, shameless bullshit that appeals to children and mindless ****wits!

Carlo, your unsuccessful attempts to lead us to believe that you have some personality are exactly that - unsuccessful.

This has been a good thread, maybe because you've only posted twice.

I think we can gather that the quality of a thread and the presence of your posts in that thread are two inversely proportional variables.

OK enjoy your childish entertainment. The simple fact that I have only made two (3) thus far, posts in this thread shows just how much I respect your entertainment, I would say sport, if it was one!
Politics and staged wresting! So much culture!

I don't know, but maybe WWF wasn't big in England when you were a young lad. So what if it is staged? We don't know the outcome and it's still entertaining, or at least it was entertaining. The moves are real and the hits hurt. It takes years of practice to perfect some of those moves, and wrestlers often injure themselves. I don't see what's wrong with looking back at some of our favourite childhood moments.

I'll never forget that TLC tornado tag match between the Hardys, Dudley Boys, Edge and Christian.

Well, films happen to be staged as well, as are stage productions. You do know that the Teletubbies don't exist either, don't you?

In my young days? Look up the likes of Big Daddy!

No love for HBK?



Possibly the best finisher of all time. That's got to hurt when it connects properly.

The first time I saw the Tellitubbies I was on a come down from a very heavy night, thought I was still tripping and it freaked me out!

But Big Daddy was a British wrestler who made his name on British tv....he was hardly the Ultimate Warrior or Hulk Hogan

Though the Brits did have some big names in the 70's and 80's...Giant Haystacks was another one.

I remember Haystacks too, but it was known as staged entertainment and nothing serious. OK I'm not going to ruin this thread but it's just a show and not sport really!

Erm ... that's why it's in the TV, Films & Books section as opposed to the All Other Sports section.