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	<title>Comments on: Michael Owen rumours highlight Man Utd’s transfer policy flaws</title>
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		<title>By: shrawan</title>
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		<dc:creator>shrawan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saf knows what 2 do we cant question his judgment ,of course he could have signed frank ribery with the money got from ron transfer but who thought cr, nistel roy would be huge superstars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saf knows what 2 do we cant question his judgment ,of course he could have signed frank ribery with the money got from ron transfer but who thought cr, nistel roy would be huge superstars</p>
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		<title>By: Keith B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guys, I think signing Michael Owen is way off the mark, SAF run out of ideas? is Michael Owen the best that is remaining of all the SAF strikers in the world? come on SAF! The PL is not for jocks,why don`t you sign young quality players like.... Sanchez, Coaster Fabiano,and Sagio? 
Work on them to become the next Ronaldos instead of wasting time on Owen who is expiring after a season, it is evident he`s on the downward trend. SAF please wake up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys, I think signing Michael Owen is way off the mark, SAF run out of ideas? is Michael Owen the best that is remaining of all the SAF strikers in the world? come on SAF! The PL is not for jocks,why don`t you sign young quality players like&#8230;. Sanchez, Coaster Fabiano,and Sagio?<br />
Work on them to become the next Ronaldos instead of wasting time on Owen who is expiring after a season, it is evident he`s on the downward trend. SAF please wake up!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey RFR
Thanks for your response, i can see where you are coming from but I am still completely against you on this one.
Yes, there&#039;s been a decline - i am not trying to deny that for one minute but when a player is constantly recovering from injury he is never fully fit or playing with the confidence of previous times.
I think the stats on his time at Newcastle are perfectly valid tho.
Saying things like he&#039;s not getting on the end of through balls, well its kinda flimsy for both of us to debate this because i would seriously question the quality of service he was getting and you will say he&#039;s too slow - fair enough, just a difference of opinion.
I still reckon this gamble (actually compared to paying 80mill for a player its not a gamble at all), this transfer will be a masterstroke.
The final piece of the jigsaw - no, but a quality finisher who wants to play for you and is trying his best so he can get his performance based bonuses AND push for a world cup place in the country where he now has EVERYTHING to prove - its perfect.  
Writing Owen off is a mistake and i&#039;m sure it will be proved that way unless (and this is my only reservation) he cant stay fit.
If he stays fit its 15-20 goals next season for a free transfer.
Ronaldo and Kaka might score twice that between them but they cost 135 million!!!!
Who would you prefer to see as a 3rd striker?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey RFR<br />
Thanks for your response, i can see where you are coming from but I am still completely against you on this one.<br />
Yes, there&#8217;s been a decline &#8211; i am not trying to deny that for one minute but when a player is constantly recovering from injury he is never fully fit or playing with the confidence of previous times.<br />
I think the stats on his time at Newcastle are perfectly valid tho.<br />
Saying things like he&#8217;s not getting on the end of through balls, well its kinda flimsy for both of us to debate this because i would seriously question the quality of service he was getting and you will say he&#8217;s too slow &#8211; fair enough, just a difference of opinion.<br />
I still reckon this gamble (actually compared to paying 80mill for a player its not a gamble at all), this transfer will be a masterstroke.<br />
The final piece of the jigsaw &#8211; no, but a quality finisher who wants to play for you and is trying his best so he can get his performance based bonuses AND push for a world cup place in the country where he now has EVERYTHING to prove &#8211; its perfect.<br />
Writing Owen off is a mistake and i&#8217;m sure it will be proved that way unless (and this is my only reservation) he cant stay fit.<br />
If he stays fit its 15-20 goals next season for a free transfer.<br />
Ronaldo and Kaka might score twice that between them but they cost 135 million!!!!<br />
Who would you prefer to see as a 3rd striker?</p>
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		<title>By: RFR</title>
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		<dc:creator>RFR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ venu
@ fido

I can see the &#039;logic&#039; behind signing Owen.

He&#039;s talented and he will want to prove himself.
I would love for him to score against Liverpool at the kop end, but even if he does that - how fit can he stay?

We just offloaded Sahs this season and now we&#039;re signing another striker, who struggles with injury.
Also, how much can he bring to the team overall? Will he create a lot of goals, will he keep defenders busy with his diminutive frame, will he strength play with his running?

I doubt it. 

he&#039;ll probably score more than Tevez did this season (if he comes), but will he be fit when he needs to be like when Rooney gets injured?

Also, the main point is - was Michael Owen&#039;s one of Ferguson&#039;s main target?

I highly doubt it.

I don&#039;t even think Michael Owen was in Fergie&#039;s top 5. 

I am making an assumption - but it feels like this is a &quot;Oh yeah, Mickey Owen on a free. Why not?!&quot; transfer. 

not a methodical, well-analyzed transfer.

Again - if we sign Owen, I will support him AND I would love it, (Keven Keegan voice) absolutely love it, if he scored against the scum, but I think there are better options out there - even in an inflated market.

Would love to be proven wrong though and have Owen reach double digits in goals, if we do sign him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ venu<br />
@ fido</p>
<p>I can see the &#8216;logic&#8217; behind signing Owen.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s talented and he will want to prove himself.<br />
I would love for him to score against Liverpool at the kop end, but even if he does that &#8211; how fit can he stay?</p>
<p>We just offloaded Sahs this season and now we&#8217;re signing another striker, who struggles with injury.<br />
Also, how much can he bring to the team overall? Will he create a lot of goals, will he keep defenders busy with his diminutive frame, will he strength play with his running?</p>
<p>I doubt it. </p>
<p>he&#8217;ll probably score more than Tevez did this season (if he comes), but will he be fit when he needs to be like when Rooney gets injured?</p>
<p>Also, the main point is &#8211; was Michael Owen&#8217;s one of Ferguson&#8217;s main target?</p>
<p>I highly doubt it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even think Michael Owen was in Fergie&#8217;s top 5. </p>
<p>I am making an assumption &#8211; but it feels like this is a &#8220;Oh yeah, Mickey Owen on a free. Why not?!&#8221; transfer. </p>
<p>not a methodical, well-analyzed transfer.</p>
<p>Again &#8211; if we sign Owen, I will support him AND I would love it, (Keven Keegan voice) absolutely love it, if he scored against the scum, but I think there are better options out there &#8211; even in an inflated market.</p>
<p>Would love to be proven wrong though and have Owen reach double digits in goals, if we do sign him.</p>
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		<title>By: abdala( irshaak@hotmail.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>abdala( irshaak@hotmail.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure if the Owen is coming or not, but if he come to man u it doesn&#039;t make any sense.
SAF he must buy,
aguero akun from atletico madrid 45 milion,
wesley sneijder from real madrid 20 milion.
man utd will more stronger than other teams of Europe definitely.
lets see.
                                  vandersar

wes brown/dsilva     ferdinand    vidic         evra
               
                                   
                        fletcher              carrick

                                   wesley snj*
          valencia                            
                                                            aguero*                       
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure if the Owen is coming or not, but if he come to man u it doesn&#8217;t make any sense.<br />
SAF he must buy,<br />
aguero akun from atletico madrid 45 milion,<br />
wesley sneijder from real madrid 20 milion.<br />
man utd will more stronger than other teams of Europe definitely.<br />
lets see.<br />
                                  vandersar</p>
<p>wes brown/dsilva     ferdinand    vidic         evra</p>
<p>                        fletcher              carrick</p>
<p>                                   wesley snj*<br />
          valencia<br />
                                                            aguero*<br />
                                        rooney</p>
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		<title>By: RFR</title>
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		<dc:creator>RFR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi zuco,

As I&#039;ve stated the factual accuracy of the Owen rumours are not important at this point. It is more important that they are actually plausible. 

I enjoyed watching Larsson turn out for us - a striker whom I rated highly, but the point is that Fergie had to make &quot;running repairs&quot; - a &#039;stop-gap&quot; signing to keep the season going.

Hardly ideal. 

In our most successful season to date, we had 4 experienced strikers. Cole, Yorke, Sheringham and Solskjaer. I would think it is probably wise to have 3 or 4 experienced strikers in case injuries strike and they need to be fit.

Owen&#039;s fitness has been improving, but he is still prone to bouts of niggling injuries - as is Rooney, so obviously an ideal third striker should be the sort that hasn&#039;t had a career blighted by injury. 

Owen? Saha? 

Even if United do not sign Owen, my article is about that the transfer dealings at OT have not been as methodical and decisive as it should have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi zuco,</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve stated the factual accuracy of the Owen rumours are not important at this point. It is more important that they are actually plausible. </p>
<p>I enjoyed watching Larsson turn out for us &#8211; a striker whom I rated highly, but the point is that Fergie had to make &#8220;running repairs&#8221; &#8211; a &#8217;stop-gap&#8221; signing to keep the season going.</p>
<p>Hardly ideal. </p>
<p>In our most successful season to date, we had 4 experienced strikers. Cole, Yorke, Sheringham and Solskjaer. I would think it is probably wise to have 3 or 4 experienced strikers in case injuries strike and they need to be fit.</p>
<p>Owen&#8217;s fitness has been improving, but he is still prone to bouts of niggling injuries &#8211; as is Rooney, so obviously an ideal third striker should be the sort that hasn&#8217;t had a career blighted by injury. </p>
<p>Owen? Saha? </p>
<p>Even if United do not sign Owen, my article is about that the transfer dealings at OT have not been as methodical and decisive as it should have been.</p>
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		<title>By: scottsati</title>
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		<dc:creator>scottsati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why are people questioning fergie still???????? 

even after all this time, after everything some people just don&#039;t know when they are well off. Owen will come here and do a job  as an auxiliary striker who offers something different, but only if he passes a very stringent medical. if we could get him firing again he would be an asset not a liability. 

we will sort a contract that is to OUR benefit only........if he plays and 
 scores he will get paid- we ain&#039;t some naive suckers a la Newcastle..

this season was always going to be a starnge one transfer wise once we realised Madrid were driving the transfer activity across europe( not lil old citteh) and we can&#039;t force players to come here such as benzema or ribery if they only want to go to Madrid-that&#039;s something we have to deal with and overcome.

you can&#039;t force people -rape is a crime. 

we now have to go and identify other targets....fergie will have already been doing this- some people have no clue if they think he has just been sitting on his ass.

anyway viva owen..........now all we need to do is raid villa for heskey and we&#039;ll have the dream team back together!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yey!!!!!! our frontline a cripple and bruno on ice!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why are people questioning fergie still???????? </p>
<p>even after all this time, after everything some people just don&#8217;t know when they are well off. Owen will come here and do a job  as an auxiliary striker who offers something different, but only if he passes a very stringent medical. if we could get him firing again he would be an asset not a liability. </p>
<p>we will sort a contract that is to OUR benefit only&#8230;&#8230;..if he plays and<br />
 scores he will get paid- we ain&#8217;t some naive suckers a la Newcastle..</p>
<p>this season was always going to be a starnge one transfer wise once we realised Madrid were driving the transfer activity across europe( not lil old citteh) and we can&#8217;t force players to come here such as benzema or ribery if they only want to go to Madrid-that&#8217;s something we have to deal with and overcome.</p>
<p>you can&#8217;t force people -rape is a crime. </p>
<p>we now have to go and identify other targets&#8230;.fergie will have already been doing this- some people have no clue if they think he has just been sitting on his ass.</p>
<p>anyway viva owen&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.now all we need to do is raid villa for heskey and we&#8217;ll have the dream team back together!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>yey!!!!!! our frontline a cripple and bruno on ice!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: RFR</title>
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		<dc:creator>RFR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys,

thank you for your comments. I realize going against Fergie&#039;s good judgment is always risky and at this point, it is all rumors, but my point is that previous transfer dealings have left me questioning the transfer acumen at OT.

@ Andrew. No, I&#039;m not an ex Pro.
I played football between the ages of 10 and 19 and have only had kick abouts since, but still represented my high school in football and my coach played in the second Bundesliga at one point.

I&#039;ve been watching football for two thirds of my life and would like to to think a somewhat educated knowledge of football.
You quote stats, but that&#039;s hardly a valid response to my assessment of his performances.
Stats are half the story. He should have scored more. 
Poor as Newcastle were, he was consistently half a year or a yard too slow to get onto a pass or throughball to be in a great goal scoring opportunity.
i can&#039;t say that I&#039;ve seen him miss sitters - Owen sure is a good  finisher, but my point is he was constantly lacking half a yard / a yard of pace and has not adapted his game.

I&#039;m giving my assessment based on what I witnessed. Trying to counter that with stats is not really valid isit? Nor is the statement that excellent players don&#039;t become bad overnight. As i&#039;ve said, the decline has been there for people to witness over the past 5 seasons.

He might become a lot better at OT, but I do not see him as an ideal third striker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,</p>
<p>thank you for your comments. I realize going against Fergie&#8217;s good judgment is always risky and at this point, it is all rumors, but my point is that previous transfer dealings have left me questioning the transfer acumen at OT.</p>
<p>@ Andrew. No, I&#8217;m not an ex Pro.<br />
I played football between the ages of 10 and 19 and have only had kick abouts since, but still represented my high school in football and my coach played in the second Bundesliga at one point.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been watching football for two thirds of my life and would like to to think a somewhat educated knowledge of football.<br />
You quote stats, but that&#8217;s hardly a valid response to my assessment of his performances.<br />
Stats are half the story. He should have scored more.<br />
Poor as Newcastle were, he was consistently half a year or a yard too slow to get onto a pass or throughball to be in a great goal scoring opportunity.<br />
i can&#8217;t say that I&#8217;ve seen him miss sitters &#8211; Owen sure is a good  finisher, but my point is he was constantly lacking half a yard / a yard of pace and has not adapted his game.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m giving my assessment based on what I witnessed. Trying to counter that with stats is not really valid isit? Nor is the statement that excellent players don&#8217;t become bad overnight. As i&#8217;ve said, the decline has been there for people to witness over the past 5 seasons.</p>
<p>He might become a lot better at OT, but I do not see him as an ideal third striker.</p>
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		<title>By: Sssss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sssss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ferguson  and David Gill are mad 

Ratings last season

Real madrid 4(awful season)
Man utd 9(brilliant season)

Real madrid sign KAKA , RONALDO , BENZEMA, ALBIOL and still want to buy
Manchester UNited lost RONALDO , TEVEZ sign VALENCA , OWEN 

NEXT SEASON RATING 

REAK MADRID 9(brilliant team)
Man utd 2(Replace worlds best player awful Owen)

HATE FERGUSON AND DAVID GILL CANT BUY GOOD PLAYERS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferguson  and David Gill are mad </p>
<p>Ratings last season</p>
<p>Real madrid 4(awful season)<br />
Man utd 9(brilliant season)</p>
<p>Real madrid sign KAKA , RONALDO , BENZEMA, ALBIOL and still want to buy<br />
Manchester UNited lost RONALDO , TEVEZ sign VALENCA , OWEN </p>
<p>NEXT SEASON RATING </p>
<p>REAK MADRID 9(brilliant team)<br />
Man utd 2(Replace worlds best player awful Owen)</p>
<p>HATE FERGUSON AND DAVID GILL CANT BUY GOOD PLAYERS</p>
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		<title>By: fido</title>
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		<dc:creator>fido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i understand your frustration but in today&#039;s market does any superstars out there fit the bill to wear the red jersey, no i don&#039;t think so, for me there&#039;s no plan b for this, the valencia transfer is just a stop gap to replace ron while we search for a long term solution on replacing him, personally SAF should look for promising youngsters and wonderkids, it&#039;s the same situation when becks left and out of nowhere this unknown lad from lisbon joined us,few people would have dare to dream he would be mega superstar in a couple of years time so we should have more trust for the gaffe as i do believe he has a plane to sort the problem, for the owen transfer, funny enough i don&#039;t bare much grudge against him even though he&#039;s a Liverpudlian fan boy before this, but it could be a master stroke as we all know united have by far the best fitness and health care management for the players in the country,, if he can get a run of games under his belt he could turned those half chances that we have squandered so much in the previous seasons into goals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i understand your frustration but in today&#8217;s market does any superstars out there fit the bill to wear the red jersey, no i don&#8217;t think so, for me there&#8217;s no plan b for this, the valencia transfer is just a stop gap to replace ron while we search for a long term solution on replacing him, personally SAF should look for promising youngsters and wonderkids, it&#8217;s the same situation when becks left and out of nowhere this unknown lad from lisbon joined us,few people would have dare to dream he would be mega superstar in a couple of years time so we should have more trust for the gaffe as i do believe he has a plane to sort the problem, for the owen transfer, funny enough i don&#8217;t bare much grudge against him even though he&#8217;s a Liverpudlian fan boy before this, but it could be a master stroke as we all know united have by far the best fitness and health care management for the players in the country,, if he can get a run of games under his belt he could turned those half chances that we have squandered so much in the previous seasons into goals</p>
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