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lol, yea man i care alot. now you feel better ? yea i care very much, im devastated.
altho you are the one using words like "clown". who cares more ? hmm....

anyway im so sick of this discussion. just look at the big clubs in holland to see how many goals they've conedeed. you will have a shock.

but this wasnt your point at the beggining. i showed you how wrong you were and now you are twisting it.
:D I'm embarrassed for a clown like yourself who can't even see where he's wrong. You not
once showed me I was wrong you deluded fool.

Bye then.:)
 

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lol, yea man i care alot. now you feel better ? yea i care very much, im devastated.
altho you are the one using words like "clown". who cares more ? hmm....

anyway im so sick of this discussion. just look at the big clubs in holland to see how many goals they've conedeed. you will have a shock.

but this wasnt your point at the beggining. i showed you how wrong you were and now you are twisting it.
Alex, Sailcido and Kromkamp is a terrible defence btw.:rolleyes:
 

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?1 – Strikers
I'm resigned to the fact that Tevez is going but I have confidence in the young lads coming through Macheda, Welbeck and Campbell all have shown a lot of potential and a rotation with them and Messrs Rooney and Berbatov should be plenty of power up front.

?2 - Left wing
The verdict is still out with Nani, I was delighted when we signed him, the video's on youtube looked great!! We have Tosic also but he's also only 5'7 and an unknown quantity in the EPL. For me I'd like us to buy Quagliarela and have the two lads for back-up/smaller games

?3 Central Midfield
As long as Hargreaves comes back fit and ready to play then I think we have no worries here. Ando's coming on well, Carrick isn't too bad, Fletch is reliable, Gibbo and Possebon are coming through and we should still have Scholes and Giggs for the odd cameo

?4 - Central Defence
I've yet to have an opinion on Cathcart/Chester but I think we're alright in defence as long as we are injury free. Rio/Vida is a magnificent partnership, Evan's has a very bright future, I like Wes Brown and JohnO' is a great squad player. Evra is without a doubt one of the best left backs in the world and the Twins look fantastic from what I've seen so far, so no worries here.

?5 – Goalkeeper
VDS has one more season but his duties should be limited to give Foster a big chance. One full season then I'll decide whether he is good enough for my first choice man between the sticks, I'm still confident about him regardless of what others seem to think. Kushit can go wherever he wants, I never wanted him in the first place and don't think he's even good enough to be number 3, let alone no.2 or no.1
Why don't we sign Kameni on a free in the summer, give him a season or two with a few games, if he doesn't make it then no bother, we could easily shift him on

?6 – Captain
I know Rio is a good captain but I would give it to Hargreaves, for one simple reason. We need someone to be in charge of the midfield and forwards and the armband would give him that bit extra controll. Rio will still be ever present and control the back 4, but for me the Captains position is always CM where he can run the show for the entire pitch. I'm not taking anything away from Rio but he's too far away from the forwards to have much influence over them. We've been lacking this season because we haven't had that man in charge in the middle of the pitch.
Either that or let Fergie stand on the center spot :idea::D
 

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Strikers: Not a problem. Berbatov, Macheda, Welbeck and
Rooney, if three are injured then we play 4-5-1.

Left wing: Not a problem either. Nani, PJS, Giggs, Tosic,
Ljajic. None are world class, some were, some might be in the
future and one never has been and never will be.

Central Midfield: Not a problem. Anderson, Scholes, Hargreaves,
Carrick, Gibson, Possebon. Enough said.

Central Defence: We've just bought a Brazilian CB, but, yes,
I really wish we hadn't sold Piqué. Maybe a promising CB, even a big
money one. It's in no need of immediate attention, though. Evans is
good enough and if we have both our starters injured then Brown can
do a fairly good job.

Goalkeeper: We need a goalkeeper. A good 24 or less year old
goalkeeper. One for the future. You never know, though, Kuszcak or
Foster might surprise us.

To be honest I've heard more of the same rubbish on this thread, world
class here, Ribery there, Benzema there, Aguero here, Akinfeev (yes,
someone said that), Buffon, Young,. Call me strange but when we buy
a player I haven't heard of I get more excited than I did for Berbatov
and Tevez put together.

The fact is that, thank God, our transfer policy has changed. We are
neither City nor Chelsea, who buy established players. With some
exceptions we aim to buy promising young players. So forgive me if
I'm happier when Macheda scores a goal than when Berbatov scores
a hat trick but Macheda has the potential to stay at United for 15+
years and become a real legend. Berbatov will just be the latest
Sheringham without the last minute goal. He was good, jumped on for
the ride and then ****ed off when he was no longer needed.
 

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Strikers: Not a problem. Berbatov, Macheda, Welbeck and
Rooney, if three are injured then we play 4-5-1.

Left wing: Not a problem either. Nani, PJS, Giggs, Tosic,
Ljajic. None are world class, some were, some might be in the
future and one never has been and never will be.

Central Midfield: Not a problem. Anderson, Scholes, Hargreaves,
Carrick, Gibson, Possebon. Enough said.

Central Defence: We've just bought a Brazilian CB, but, yes,
I really wish we hadn't sold Piqué. Maybe a promising CB, even a big
money one. It's in no need of immediate attention, though. Evans is
good enough and if we have both our starters injured then Brown can
do a fairly good job.

Goalkeeper: We need a goalkeeper. A good 24 or less year old
goalkeeper. One for the future. You never know, though, Kuszcak or
Foster might surprise us.

To be honest I've heard more of the same rubbish on this thread, world
class here, Ribery there, Benzema there, Aguero here, Akinfeev (yes,
someone said that), Buffon, Young,. Call me strange but when we buy
a player I haven't heard of I get more excited than I did for Berbatov
and Tevez put together.

The fact is that, thank God, our transfer policy has changed. We are
neither City nor Chelsea, who buy established players. With some
exceptions we aim to buy promising young players. So forgive me if
I'm happier when Macheda scores a goal than when Berbatov scores
a hat trick but Macheda has the potential to stay at United for 15+
years and become a real legend. Berbatov will just be the latest
Sheringham without the last minute goal. He was good, jumped on for
the ride and then ****ed off when he was no longer needed
.
What exactly is wrong with being the next Sherringham?!
 

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"Berbatov will just be the latest
Sheringham without the last minute goal. He was good, jumped on for
the ride and then ****ed off when he was no longer needed."

Without his goal in the '99 final rest assured that most people wouldn't
know who Sheringham is.
 

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1. Berba Rooney and Ronaldo are some of the best strikers in the world and between them, atleast 2 of them have all of the attributes that make a world class player. Ronaldo and Rooney have electric pace, Berba and Rooney can create chances from thin air and Berba and Ronaldo's footwork is exquisite etc

2. We really do need another winger, the jury is still out with Nani and Tosic but they just might turn out excellent so who knows.

3. Dont think we'll see anyone come into midfield this summer but I wouldnt mind seeing a versatile young talent come in, cant rely on Hargo and that really just leaves Carrick as our only quality defensive midfielder and the future of our attacking midfield rests on Anderson with Scholes and Giggs going and Fletcher being a squad player.

4. Silly question really, Centre back is one of our strongest positions. Jonny Evans will slot in and we've got Wesley or O'shea aswell, were sorted.

5. Again, a silly question. I wouldnt mind seeing Foster full time next season.

6. Rio is maturing into the perfect captain and his effect on the side is obvious. Definite captain. He did have some bad parts to his game, such as switching off and losing focus occasionally but these have gone.
 

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"Berbatov will just be the latest
Sheringham without the last minute goal. He was good, jumped on for
the ride and then ****ed off when he was no longer needed."

Without his goal in the '99 final rest assured that most people wouldn't
know who Sheringham is.
Considering Sheringham was one of the most technically gifted players England and the Premiership ever had, I think there's a damn good chance they would have.
 

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He also won his first ever trophy at age 33.
So what? If your going to let a little statistic like that form your argument on him then I have no reason to carry on a conversation with you. What exactly does that mean?? He played in teams that were not good enough to win trophies, doesn't mean anything about him.
 

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So what? If your going to let a little statistic like that form your argument on him then I have no reason to carry on a conversation with you. What exactly does that mean?? He played in teams that were not good enough to win trophies, doesn't mean anything about him.
He was a good player, similarly to Berbatov, played for Spurs,
similarly to Berbatov, won nothing, similarly to Berbatov, moaned
his way out of Spurs, similarly to Berbatov, joined Utd. at a strong
point ( we had just lost the league by one point if I remember correctly),
similarly to Berbatov, left relatively soon, probably similarly to
Berbatov.
 

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He was a good player, similarly to Berbatov, played for Spurs,
similarly to Berbatov, won nothing, similarly to Berbatov, moaned
his way out of Spurs, similarly to Berbatov, joined Utd. at a strong
point ( we had just lost the league by one point if I remember correctly),
similarly to Berbatov, left relatively soon, probably similarly to
Berbatov.
Sheringham was a fantastic player. Played with infinitely more heart than Berbatov. The fact that you think somebody turning out to be the next Sheringham is an insult says alot about your knowledge. And the fact you think people would not have heard of him without the champions league goal says even more.
 

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i think so much depends on whether we are willing to let certain players go, i cant see say any point in bolstering the squad with more 'squad' type players in any are while we have players already there-if maybe we moved on a couple of players here and there then yes go for it.

i'd go for striker as discussed before in the mould of ruud or ole, someone who is deadly right in front of goal, no messing abou, no tricks, no running back just a player who everytime a ball is fed into the box you know he'll be on the end of it.

i'd get another specialist central defender in- not a world class player, but a top class PL player who can provide good cover in that area.

left wing i'd like to see us buy a top draw player there but thats easier said than done.

i'm quite happy goalkeeping wise, a lot depends on PIG though and whether he is happy to play third choice- he might wanna move on and re-establish himself somewhere else in the first team now foster seems to have come thorugh so well.

central midfield- if hargo can get himself fit then i'm happy to give him and another( carrick) for me a go in tandem, without the need for bringing in new blood.

as for the club captain- sadly i think we need a new one- i wouldn't be shocked if nev actually accepted this and maybe suggested and handed the armband to rio for next season- as hard as it is to say this nev's best days are behind him and we need a club captain who is a dead certain starter for every game.

sorry if i haven't addressed your points in order just thinking off the top of my head
such a differing point of view from mine in some ways :)

I guess it's good I'm not the manager, cos I would actually advice Gary and Paul to maybe call it a day. I know they still have a season left in their legs, but it seems they can't perform to their own high standards very often.

I guess we agree on the striker and left wing and not on the central defenders and goalkeepers.

For me, i think PIG is going or should go and we get a good keeper as a number 1. Edwin's got one season tops. NExt season, we HAVE to transition someone else into the role of main custodian.
 

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That's a lot of question marks RFR..!:)

But anyway, I don't think tevez will be here next season so that means we do need to replace him..
I think we need a proper center forward though that will score us goals.. Pretty much the same names yee have all thrown around already.. Benzema and Eto'o with be my 2 choices..!:)
I just feel Berbatov doesn't suit the way we try to play at the moment, our attacks haven't got the same pace as they had last season and Berbatov likes to slow it down to his own pace..!

Ha! You should have seen the battles that were waged here in the summer. Just you all remember that uncle RFR, versa and CROoney warned you about Berbatov! ;)
To be fair, Berba HAS shown glimpses of brilliance and his first touch and ball control are unreal. Absolutely spectecular.

But it's not really what we needed.


I wouldn't be worried about center midfield in the summer to be honest, if Anderson and Hargreaves stay fit next season then we will be fine in that department.. Carrick, Giggs, Scholes and Fletcher can all still do a job there too..!
At center defence I feel the same again, we've got some good options there, Rio and Vidic obviously being 1st choice.. Evans, O'Shea and Brown filling in too, young Chester coming up the ranks and I think we are close to signing a young brazilain cb called Dodo..!:)

I'm slightly concerned about the creativity and directness in midfield. A lot depends on Anderson. He can fluctuate between exactly what we need to anonymous.
As for Dodo. I have to dig out my trafer rumour tracker..we've been loked to 50+ players over the past two seasons.


The left wing is a position that we could look to strengthen, even though I feel Nani will still prove everyone of his critics wrong-Believe me next season he will improve dramatically..:p
Ribery is a possible target, but I honestly feel he will make the move to Barcelona..
Tosic and Ljajic could play wide too and we will have to see how well they develop..!

- The thing about Nani is that his talent is soooooo obvious. Everybody acknowledges it, but his decision-making is very, very poor. I'm not sure he can ever improve it to the level United need it to be.

I have a hunch about Ljajic and think he's going to be an immense player for us. Pitty about the name though. ;)


I think VDS is gone after next season from goal, so I feel we do need a new no.1 to come in but not this summer.. Foster will get his chances next season to impress and hopefully he can solve our problems..
I don't rate Kusckack at all and maybe he will be sold off to bring in money for another keeper..!

As for Captain, Rio's a good shout..!
- I could live with Foster getting his chance next season. A good run of games will let him show what he's made of, but in that case we need to sell Kuszczak and buy cover. He's not even decent cover tbh.
 

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like every other season we only need a couple of fresh faces to liven things up most of the squad is okay .
one good defender , a midfielder in the essien style and a forward if tevez departs preferably a younger one who will be happy not playing every game
 

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1 – Strikers
-Tevez will go.
-Berba, Rooney, Macheda + Buying someone of the Benzema, Eto'o calibre.

2 - Left wing
-Buying Ribery would make us unbeatable. He is world class. Otherwise Nani needs to sort himself out or else Tosic/Ljalic might have a small chance.
-Ronaldo is always an option on the left if we play Hargreaves on the right a la '08 Cl final.

3 Central Midfield
-We have more than enough in central midfield.
-Scholes, Giggs, Hargo, Anderson, Carrick, Fletcher as well as players like Gibson, Possebon, James, Hewson etc...for the future.
-No need to buy anyone.

4 - Central Defence
-Our strongest area imo.
-Best partnership in the world (Rio & Vidic)
-Great back up: Evans, O'Shea & Brown.
-Up and coming youngsters: Catchart and Chester.
-No need to buy anyone.


5 – Goalkeeper
-No problems here either.
-Edwin has at least another year in him.
-Foster has great potential.
-Kuzzie is an adequate number 2.
-Up and coming youngsters: Zieler, Heaton and young N.Irish lad. (his name evades me right now)

6 – Captain
-Rio is definite captain material.
-Giggs can still deputise when he plays.
-Others can fill in: Vidic and Hargo are captain material.
-Possible future captains: Rooney & Evans.


In conclusion, we dont need to go mad buying players. Just 1/2 world class signings is all we need.
The team is in great shape. Looking at 3 titles on the bounce.
 

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I told you. You are among the fans who judge players based on their games in the PL only.Most of the teams from Netherlands don't have good defenders but they surely have great attacking players. No need to mention their names. Therefore it is a hard place for the goalkeepers. And those records look really impressive. He had so many incredible saves against top class teams in the CL groups and knock-out rounds. But I told you that it is difficult for the British fans to realize that a few bad games in the PL don't make you a bad player :)
Wait for it......the PL is his recent form ffs. Jesus you're a thick one.

A few bad games? He's been shocking since he's signed. As poor a keeper as i've seen since Taibi. Yet you want him to be our new number 1 keeper? he can't cut it for a mid-table side, let's sign him for the Champions. Do you realise how ridiculous that is?

Great attacking players? Look at Kuyt's record in Holland ffs.

Btw, i'm not 'British', please don't refer to me as that.
I think the truth about Gomes is somewhere between these two views.

His start to Premier League life was awful.

Really, comedy club stuff.

I watched the 4-4 with Arsenal in disbelief. Worst goal-keeping I have ever seen. And he did that a few games in a row.

He's improved since though, but what I can see is that while his reaction saves are really good, the rest of his goal-keeping basics are not steady enough for my liking.

Wouldn't be comfortable with him going near a United jersey, even if he were bying it as a present for someone ;)
 
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