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then sit down and behave yourself there are other people trying to see the game behind you .
i don't know the facts but its my guess that you spend a lot of time on your feet and thats why people complain ,the w*****s are not the stewards its the idiots that stand up obstructing everybody behind them , and paying good money for a seat when you end up not being able to see the damn game really winds me up.
 

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mufc-ok said:
wow if people are standing up infront of you then youy should stand up, With standind the atmosphere is much better than sitting down and sitting in silence.

the thing is mate some people can't stand up for the whole game because they might be elderly or have a slight disability and who said you must sit in silence ,you can still shout ,sing and jump up when your team scores .
to pay £40 for a seat then stand up and obstruct everybody directly behind you is totally MORONIC im sorry to say.
but i am all for bringing some terraceing back into the grounds.
 

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antdevil78 said:
Idiot!!! Did you know at one time, lots of people stood up for the entire 90 mins and sang as well

Atmosphere at United is becoming so sterilized its killing off genuine fans who want to go to sing the songs that have been sung for a lot longer than most of the people have been alive that are watching.

Two biggest games I have been to Liverpool home and Barca home were two of the loudest crowds i have heard. I never got to use my seat for the entire 90 mins for either game and when Scholes scored, I picked up the old bloke at the side of me and he kissed me on the side of the head!!!!! Never met him before that night.

We aint got fans with passion going to games anymore and the ones that are, are getting with being kicked out and season tickets took off them.

Next time you see a steward come circling, do the usual "stand up for the champions" and that usually sees them off.

The people complaining need to be the ones who get their ST took off them and given to genuine United fans who fight for the cause and believe in singing up for the Red Devils.

the reason you are asked to sit down is to give everybody a good view of the game it does not stop you shouting singing or jumping up and down in moments of excitement ,you just get to see it happening .
one of the reasons utds crowd is quiet is because half of them cannot see the bloody game mate ,because fools with you attitude have spoilt it for half the stand .
 

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IanDangerously said:
Elderly people, and people with disabilities, tend not to sit in the 2nd tier? :confused:

i am talking about football in general .
i am not having a go at burnzy he could well be innocent and sounds like a decent guy.
i am not having a go at utd or any specific part of the ground.
its just general people at football grounds who stand up causing dozens or hundreds of people behind them to do the same thing resulting in many people not getting a view of the game .
END OF RANT.:D
 

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burnzy1987 said:
that is a quality post mate.quality!

the bit in bold makes a brilliant point.

sweet fa you normally talk sense but i CANNOT believe your reaction to this thread....:mad:

i am a fan at the back of a 2nd tier(hardly any elderly etc due to all the stairs) who tries to create an atmosphere going at OT.Scott and about a dozen other lads are the same as me and all we do is get behind the team.

when i was in the stewards office also got told that they knew we do "stand up for the champions" when they start coming up the stairs on purpose and warned us against that aswel

burnzy i ain't critizeing you personely and in certain areas of all stadiums {rear seated rows} it is totally fine to stand up and it does not harm anybody at all.
but i have been in a number of different grounds watching different teams to utd even and you do get 2 idiots in the front row who decide too stand up ,then half the crowd behind them ends up standing and not getting a clear view and i will never change my opinion to those idiots.
when i watch my local side cardiff i do go on the terrace on the barriers simply because when i pay for a seat i end up standing the whole game where i can't see half of it and nearly get pushed over the seats in front of me and i am a very hefty guy about 5"11 so anybody behind me got know chance of seeing the game.
 

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haggler said:
some good honest posts here . it has to be time for a return to terracing . i understand that if you are sat down and rows in front stand up all the while you cant see jack --- the other arguement holds true as well -- german grounds have terraced areas still without problems . i go to saints rugby a lot and terracing there as well as seats ----- it needs looking at again it really does -- when all seaters were bought in it was to stop stuff like end takeovers etc but if put in proper areas of ground that couldnt happen


haggler i am 100% behind terracing returning to the game on steep gradients so everybody can safely see the game ,of course the atmosphere is better ,what i am gripeing about is fools blocking innocent paying football fans views and if some of the guys on here cannot see my point then they ain;t civilised.:eek:
 

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i understand most of you guys are a lot younger than me and are far more energitic at the ground and you are the atmosphere at the games.
but what would you think if you were in your 30's and you just spent £100 on tickets for you and your 2 kids to see the game ,your sat down watching the game at kick off then everybody stands up because of a few idiots ,and your 2 little uns get to look at somebodies butt end for 90 minutes , would you be happy and say well thats football lads or would you be in a rage and saying what i am saying .
its probabley people with children that go onto the stewards complaining in a lot of circumstances .
 

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antdevil78 said:
thats the problem, people are too bothered bout getting a good view of the game and not enough bout cheering on the team.

your idea that people are quiet cos they cant see the game is laughable at best. its cos they are too busy chomping on their big bag of haribo while telling their mates how much of a good time their having at Old Trafford and also worrying that the trafford centre will be shut by the time they get out of the ground.

your typical of the fans that are ashamedly going to games where you expect replays at all the best bits and think its crap without the tyler/gray bloke givin you a running commentary.

Stay at home watch it on telly and leave the true support to someone who care bout the club and not whether they get a good view to take some wicked photos.

fair play your a first class f###### idiot mate you expect people to pay £40 a ticket and not watch whats happening ,i suppose your well tanked up when your blocking other fans views shouting insults at players doing your little tough guys routine.
when i go to a football match i go to see good players perform and hopefully see a wonderful goal being scored ,people like you go just to act like a yob and show off in front of other clowns.
 

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antdevil78 said:
just for information i aint drunk more than one bottle at any match. If your drunk you shouldnt get in, simple.

We all go to see good players perform but you got to understand that you aint paying to go the cinema and you and all the others seem to take the Theatre part of the Theatre of Dreams too literal. Its called player interaction, you sing, they respond

If you class standing up as acting like a yob then your in the wrong sport mate. I suggest bowls or tiddlywinks may be more you kind of thing.


look let me make this clear to you again ,i fully agree that terracing should be allowed back into football and us fans should shout and sing all game long ,and we all jump up and down during the game thats what football is all about and i do this has much as anyone else.
but what i don't accept is the idiots that stand for 90 minutes all they achieve is obstructing other fans views of the game ,if you get 2 or 3 beanpoles stood in front of you you can't see which team has got the ball which player has scored you simply don't see the event.
if your going for the atmosphere and quite a few do just to get a buzz then i would suggest going to a rock concert instead you will get a bit of added bonus you can also listen to the music while jumping around taking no notice of things.
once again this is NOT aimed at old trafford this happens at all grounds and it is a lot worst at the older grounds because the step ups in the seated areas are lesser , making it harder to see over whats in front of you.
 
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