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Berbatov or Rooney

go on people - it seems according to SAF who knows the best (like most of you like to say in order to prove that berbatov is better than tevez, and i'm by no means doubting the great manager with this sentence ) he is the best striker in our team and better than rooney

he's been subbed less times than anyone bar ronaldo i think , almost every match the first pick he's gotta be better than rooney

i'm interested in what you english have to say on this one

Berbatov or Rooney

boy this is gonna be mouthwatering


be carefull what you're saying about rooney's abilities and advantages cos many of those can come back to hunt you when tevez comes into question
 

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was thinkin the same thing, always do wen i c these 'versus' debates:) they usually end up in player slanging!

but at same time give a good debate. personally its rooney for me. impact player, always puts in 100%, lifts the crowd and is energy and drive is amazing. when rooney doesnt play its clear to c the difference in our game most of the time.

but thats not to say i dont rate the berb. was a bit taken aback at 1st (mainly due to price tag but thts not the players fault) he has has improved as the season has gone on. personally i think he will get better as season continues:)
i thought tevez had that too... hmmm:confused:

i thought those were his attributes ;)
 

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First of all when i was discussing in the Berba and Tevez thread, i wasn`t taking sides with anyone, just discussing who should start along with Rooney because in my opinion Berbatov and Tevez aren`t compatible to play with each other. And secondly, both Berbatov and Rooney should start upfront so choosing one is bloody nonsense ;)
according to goals they assisited to eachother they're more compatible than rooney and berbatov

it seems saf did a bloody nonsense in milan then ;)

and back when he took off rooney against arsenal i think
 

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CROoney , i will take a side :)
I don't want to mention their pluses and minuses - sunchaser did it.
Berbatov is a great player , but Rooney is also a real leader.
If I am a manager , Rooney will be the last player I would sell.

My vote - Rooney
great - one of the rears taking side ;)
 

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both do but rooney has a bigger effect. when he gets the ball u feel it in the crowd he will make good use of the ball.
Cro, ur a good man for gettin the debates going, keep it up:thumbsup:
no i'm not a good man - i hate debating - i hate berabtov that's why i opened this thread


i hate ferdinand for thinking that vida's better


now let's see who else do i hate


well back last season there were many criticising his first touch, passing, calling him unfit and his wastefullness in front of goal was a special mention so...it all relative and timing of the subject has to be right


if you remember
 

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I`ve always disagreed to include fees when discussing players. It was not going to make any difference if we paid 10mill for him .. The expectations were not going to decrease neither were they going to increase if we paid more. When we signed him we knew what Berbatov was capable of, all we wanted was to see him doing his upmost, end of.
really ?


picture this - we bought nani for what 17 million - what do you expect of him


we bought manucho for peanuts -what do you expect from him .- why isn't anyone questioning him

;)
 

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Well oh well, questioning Manucho on a 1 performance basis ? Now i don`t think that`s the best name to choose to prove your argument my mate ;)

Wasn`t expecting anything from Nani when we bought him because i wasn`t sure what his strengths and weaknesses are, now that i know i am waiting for him to improve his weaknesses and keep his pluses on going and if he`ll be able to do that then he will be worth every penny.. :happy
but don't you think that if he was that good he'd be given more chances


and if he was that good probably would have been paid more -


why everyone thinks veron was a flop ?


he actually did some good things but not good enough for 30 million


but pretty solid for what we got back for him ( 20)
 

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Are you talking about Nani or Manucho?

Well if your argument here is about Nani .. in the same argument you can say that if he was as bad as some people say he is, he has already been shown the back door.
And Manucho .. He is on loan to gain more experience because with the strikers available this season he was not going to maintain any first team experience.
you said something about expections from a player who's been paid a lot of money


it does play part - expectations are higher from nani than from manucho


everyone's slating nani not because of what he did but of what he didnt' and can't do to justify the price tag - and if he gets sold people will treat him as a big flop

unlike in manucho's case - no one would care nor remember cos they werent espceting anything from a player so cheap
 

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Wait till Manucho comes back to Old Trafford and have some minutes under his belt and then we will see if the people here will criticize or praise him .. I bet my money they will because at the end of the day he is part of the squad. He`s been a bit of a forgettable figure at the moment, just because he`s not playing with the team but every eye will be on him when he`ll return.

Now that`s another argument about Nani .. It depends on the person innit .. Me myself i consider both of what he does and what he doesn`t do (not of what he can`t do!) , i know his strengths and his weaknesses, i know where he deserves praise and i remember all the times he made me swear. But that`s what i think, i speak my mind and can`t give an arse of what other people expect from him .. Of course people will think he`s big flop if he`ll leave, but its because he hasn`t been given enough time to improve himself and give an answer. I wouldn`t have said the same for a 27 year old, but ffs he`s 22.. Relax y`all.

but you seem to have such a nice arse


lol - just kidding - had to say it

and i'm on nani's side
 

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I think berbatov plays more than rooney because its fergies highest ever paid player so he has to keep playing him and get him integrated into uniteds style of football. He is also the most mature in terms of age of the front members and at his peak age so thats another likely factor as to why he plays because he is proven in the premier league.

Another thing is, with berbatov even if he does not play well, he may still possibly get you a goal which is why he is on the pitch.

This all being said, Rooney is a better player and will play more/be less subbed imo as he gets older and if he can keep himself fit and continue to progress being he is still alot younger than berbatov.

That all being said, berbatov and tevez are of more similar levels in terms of quality because they can fit different situations. If hustling and running is needed upfront, tevez could possibly start ahead of berbatov and if goals are needed against a weak team, berbatov would probably start being the bigger goal threat imo at the moment.

Tevez is a very good player indeed but i dont think he is having a great season. He started very bright, but then went into a major dip, then found his form again but his awareness/decision making is still lacking at times (somestimes plays like milan baros with his head down or does not pick the right pass) and he needs to score more goals. He may have possibly lost some of his killer touch, i dont know. I still like tevez but i have the same complaints of him as i did last season. If anything, he has improved in areas but got weaker in others.

IMO...

Rooney is a better player than berbatov. Berbatov is a better player than tevez. But the difference between the 3 is not HUGE. All three are top players but rooney is the most rounded. Berbatov is possibly most collected. Tevez is the busiest.

I agree with fergie to pick rooney and berbatov as the starting pair too! :cool:

pz!

now this is a good post - as much as i disagree with you on some issues you choose your words wisely without tossing around expressions such are "waaaaay better ", "far superior" etc...

and that's what bothers me - they are all great players but i think rooney,tevez , berbatov is the pecking order - small things and form can make the difference
 
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