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What do you honestly think of Berbatov now?

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Well the Tottenham supporters that I talk to say that Berbatov comes alive in the second half of the season. I mean, it will take time for him to adjust, and I think that's what he's doing right now. The more Berba plays with us and adjusts himself to how we play, the better he will get. I'm willing to give him a whole season before we look back at our purchase. I mean, if we had judged Vidic and Evra after half a season, they'd be gone, but look where they are now.
 

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RichardsReds said:
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You do not have to look hard to see the fault. Manchester United spent £30 for a scorer who does not score enough to live up to £30.

Zuco let me ask you this then. If you spent £30,000 on a car that was meant to drive at 180mph but it could only reach 165mph. You would still have a brilliant car but would you not be annoyed that it wasn't doing what thought it would be doing before purchase?
So you probably would also have proposed getting rid of Rio a long time ago, as before he didn't live up to his expensive purchase. Surely we can also get rid of Rooney, as he's scoring less and he's always injured. And we can also get rid of Anderson because he hasn't scored yet, right?
 

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andersons_left_foot said:
we brought carrick in the same year they brought berba so they never played in the same team........ forgive me if im wrong
Nope, you're right. Maybe Sir Alex bought them because they're both excellent at what they do. That they both played for Spurs happens to be a coincidence? :p
 

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I fail to see how goals/minute isn't objective. It relies solely on numbers,
not any human opinions. It's just as objective as shots/goal. If you argue
the objectivity of goals/minute, I could argue the objectivity of shots/goal
as well. If his shots/goal ratio is better than Rooney's, I'd ask why he isn't
getting into a position to shoot more often. If he's more clinical, he should
rightfully take more shots, as it results in more goals. Perhaps what you
were trying to say is that the numbers aren't the whole truth, and that I do
agree with.

As for Berbatov himself, I'll elaborate: In America, specifically in the NFL,
there is a saying that you're only as good as your record. You could be
the defending champions, but if you're 8-8 at the end of the season, then
you're just mediocre. The championship was last season. Using a similar
yardstick with Berbatov reveals he has 18 goals in 63 games with United,
or a goal every 3.5 games. Adding assists he's been involved in 31 goals,
or every other game. However, that doesn't compare favorably to Rooney
and his total of 45 goals and assists in 70 games (same time that Berba's
been at United), or 1.55 games per goal or assist. Maybe employing our
beleaguered striker in a different manner, similar to Totti, would yield the
kind of results we expected from him. Playing him almost as an attacking
midfielder would give him more exposure with the ball, and would allow
him to influence the game more. With a player of Berbatov's ability, that
would not be a bad thing. Hopefully it would solve multiple problems, our
lack of creativity in midfield, and it would open up the door for a clinical
striker - be it Owen, Welbeck, Macheda, or some future purchase.

It might not be as ideal as getting a player like van der Vaart, or Hazard,
but until we do get an attacking midfielder, I don't see why it would hurt
to try it if we're still playing without that spark.
 

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I really don't understand what kind of a person you must be to hate the people playing for your favourite team.
I'd say the kind of person you must be to hate a player playing for your
favorite team is a logical person. You support the team first and foremost,
ahead of any player, ahead of any manager.
 

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I would like to see Berbatov get one more year with us. I think the main
problem is the 4-5-1. He comes on as a sub, which I don't think suits him
very well. He should start games and influence throughout, not try to get
acclimated and then do something. If we had a strong midfield, we could
afford to play two strikers, and without Ronaldo as the focal point, Rooney
and Berbatov could get their partnership to flourish. But a large part of
that is midfield. If we get that, then it might work. Plus, it appears Berbatov
has a genuine willingness to play for United. One more year, I say.
 
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