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The Champions League Draw

English sides dominate the seedings for the 2008/09 UEFA Champions League group stage draw which will take place from 18.00CET on Thursday at Monaco's Grimaldi Forum.

Qualifying concluded

Sixteen teams gained automatic entry to the competition proper and the same number came through the third qualifying round on Tuesday and Wednesday. Making their debut in the group stage are UEFA Cup holders FC Zenit St. Petersburg, CFR 1907 Cluj of Romania, the first Belarussian qualifiers, FC BATE Borisov, and the inaugural Cypriot entrants Anorthosis Famagusta FC. In all 17 nations are represented in the draw, the ceremony for which will include the UEFA Club Football Awards.

Top seeds

As usual the 32 sides are split into four seeding pots, with one from each being drawn into the eight groups, though no team can meet another from their own association. All four English clubs are included in Pot 1 – holders Manchester United FC, last season's runners-up Chelsea FC, five-time winners Liverpool FC, and Arsenal FC – and alongside them are FC Barcelona, Olympique Lyonnais, FC Internazionale Milano and the competition's most successful side, Real Madrid CF.

Contenders
Among the teams in Pot 2 are both German entrants, FC Bayern München and Werder Bremen, 2004 winners FC Porto, and Juventus, who are back in the competition after a two-year absence. Placed in Pot 3 are former European champions Olympique de Marseille, FC Steaua Bucureşti, Celtic FC, Zenit and last term's quarter-finalists Fenerbahçe SK. Pot 4 features Club Atlético de Madrid, ACF Fiorentina and the two survivors from the first qualifying round, BATE and Anorthosis. Matchday 1 will be on 16/17 September, with fixtures continuing on 30 September/1 October, 21/22 October, 4/5 November, 25/26 November and 9/10 December. As usual the top two sides will progress to the first knockout round draw on 19 December while those finishing third will enter the UEFA Cup Round of 32.


Pot 1:
Chelsea
Liverpool
Barcelona
Arsenal
Manchester United
Lyon
Inter Milan
Real Madrid

Pot 2:
Bayern Munich
PSV Eindhoven
Villareal
AS Roma
FC Porto
Werder Bremen
Sporting Lisbon
Juventus

Pot 3:
Marseille
Zenit St. Petersburg
Steaua Bucaresti
Panathinaikos
Bordeaux
Celtic
FC Basel
Fenerbahce

Pot 4:
Shakhtar Donetsk
Fiorentina
Atletico Madrid
Dinamo Kiev
CFR Cluj
AaB Aalborg
Anorthosis
BATE Borisov


Pot 3:
Marseille
Zenit St. Petersburg

Steaua Bucaresti
Panathinaikos
Bordeaux
Celtic
FC Basel
Fenerbahce

Pot 4:
Shakhtar Donetsk
Fiorentina
Atletico Madrid
Dinamo Kiev

CFR Cluj
AaB Aalborg
Anorthosis
BATE Borisov

Some possible groups of death.

 

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best case scenario

man utd
sporting lisbon
FC Basle
BATE Borisov

worse case scenario

Man Utd
Bayern Munich
Celtic
Athletico Madrid
 

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group for Zenit

Zenit
Lyon or Inter Milan
Werder Bremen or PSV
CFR Cluj or AaB Aalborg


group for United

United
BATE Borisov
Steaua
Sporting
 

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Manchester United Will Get A Hard Draw - Juventus, Marseille, Ath Madrid

Chelsea Will Get A Easy Draw (nothing Unusual) - Werder Bremen, Basel, Bate
 

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antdevil78 said:
worse case scenario

Man Utd
Bayern Munich
Celtic
Athletico Madrid
Exactly what I was thinking in terms of worst case.

I'd be happy to draw Porto, Sporting Lisbon or Werder Bremen out of pot 2.

Steaua Bucharest, Panathanaikos, Bordeaux or Basel out of pot 3.

CFR Cluj, AaB Aalborg, Anorthosis Famagusta or BATE Borisov out of pot 4.
 

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The good thing to think though is that every team in Europe will be saying "I hope we dont get Manchester United" because we are the Champions in fairness!! :D
 

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Worse case Scenario id say would be:

Manchester United
As Roma
Zenit St Petrsburg
Athletico Madrid

Still what are the chances??? :rolleyes:
 

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How liverpool are top seeds is beyond belief!!

Hull have played better this season! :rolleyes: Pile don't deserve it at all, IMO and
are only there on previous success! :rolleyes:




For sheer excitement, I'd love tyhis group :eek:


Manchester United
Juventus
Celtic
Shakhtar Donetsk

....for ease of passgae IMO,

Manchester United
FC Porto
Panathinaikos
Anorthosis
 

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I dont want the really poor new sides.We need a challenge for each and every game.If we have a poor group (similar to Chlski's last year) then we wil lget complaicent and start resting players etc.I want a brutal Group followed by an even more brutal trip to the final,then i want to smash the scousers to bits in the final and basque in the glory of it all.Stop being girls and wanting the bad sides....
 

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Terry :( I really wanted it to be Rio and i thought it would be :(

I'm happy about Villarreal, i just really wanted to avoid Roma and Sporting, boring to playt the same over again!
 

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2nd seeds are out...

Liverpool get PSV Eindhoven
Chelsea get Roma
Arsenal get Porto

United get Villareal.

Real Madrid draw Juventus so that looks set to be an interesting group.
 

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Cant believe Terry and Cech won the awards ffs. Were they not watching the thing?
All the English teams got ok draws. Missed bayern and Juve.
Villareal is probably the toughest but shouldnt be a problem.
FFS Lampard just won best midfielder.....wtf. 3 Chelsea players.
Errr United own the thing.
 
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