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United chief executive David Gill has saluted the club's talent scouts for the part they played in helping the Reds retain the title.

The four new players signed last summer – Nani, Anderson, Owen Hargreaves and Carlos Tevez – made more than 100 league appearances between them. Quite a feat when you consider that Anderson and Nani were new to English football, and Hargreaves had also never played in the Premier League before, despite playing for the national team.

“We’ve worked very hard over the last few years to make sure the signings are right,” said David Gill on MUTV.

“That’s testament to Sir Alex Ferguson, Carlos Queiroz, (chief scout) Jim Lawlor, the scouting system and our ability to identify players who are going to make a difference.

“The team last year (2006/07) won the title fantastically, so the challenge was how do you improve on that? But that’s what we’ve tried to do, to make sure we don’t stand still but progress. Sir Alex will never let us rest on our laurels and if we can improve the squad this summer, we will certainly be in a position to do so.”

The chief exec was also full of praise for the spirit at the club following the Reds’ tenth Premier League title. Although he acknowledges that the success is largely down to the players, he also credits the staff and the fans for the vital support they give to the team.

“We believe we have a good atmosphere at United, and this works positively for everyone," he said.

“Winning the league is the culmination of ten long months of hard work by everyone at the club. It’s brilliant and it sets us up for the cup final in Moscow next week.”


- -hmmmmm...... I'm not sure the clubs scouts are in lline to be praised quite yet. I think Ajax, Barcelona, Arsenal and Milan have much better scouts. It's one thing to spot a talent when it's already bleeding obvious that he's going to be great, but it's another to spot talent at 14 or 15. AC Milan were alerted to Kaka and Pato by chief Brazilian scout Leonardo when they were very young. In Pato's case when he was 15. Because of Messi's medical condition, he was recommended to Barcelona at the age of 14 and they knew they were looking at someone special.

In addition, there have been some horror signings that were recommended by our scouts like the Djemba twins, Tailbi and Bellion. I think we've had more luck in the transfer market recently, but we're still behind the clubs lsited above in terms of scouting.
 

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manutd004 said:
I would agree actually.

And with Nani, Anderson and Manucho for example, of course depending on whether Manucho turns out to be fantastic for us, it was Carlos Queiroz who spotted them.

But I would agree our scouts aren't really as good as others. If the Silva twins and Possebon turn out to be fabulous players, then I guess they've done very well. But otherwise, I think we are slightly behind.

I think part of the problem may be that we don't seem to have as many foreign scouts, so we lack a great knowledge of a specific country or continent.

But I would agree with your post.

LOL ...... you agreed three times! That's a lot of agreement! :)


I hear what others are saying, so I wrote that we should not praise them quite yet. Anderson, whom I had only heard of once in my life, has been cracking, but you know who noticed him first?

Sir Alex! He then asked his brother to go watch him.

So, if Manucho does turn out to be good there will be cause for celebration, but i'm still waiting for us to find A Cristiano Ronaldo at 15 and nurture him through the ranks.

I have watched a fair bit of reserves matches this season and i really like the looks of Wellbeck, Possebon and Hewson. Of the three I actually think the Posseborn has a really good chance to be a very, very good well-rounded midfielder and I have to curb my enthusiasm, because i want to avoid being disappointed like with Rossi, but he has a great chance.

Let me qualify that, I'm not saying Rossi didn't make it, but he wasn't given enough chances and he wanted to be playing regularly. It just didn't work out, but till today he is still the est reserves player i have seen.
 

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Brian of Nazareth said:
To be honest they blow hot and cold, but the last 2-3 season spot on

Kleberson!? - Anderson

Djemba x 2!? - Evra

Miller - Vidic

Bellion...haha still makes me laugh - Ronaldo

how about Massimo Tailbi ? - is a shiver running down your spine too? :)

By the way, welcome aboard and I love John, dislike Yoko!
 

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CROoney from Dubrovnik said:
you're right there rfr... if anything they should be criticised for not spotting the young talents since , i don't know, giggsy ... we have an ordinary to say the best scouting network... i mean - imagine if we had taken carrick while playing for west ham...sure - we bought ronaldo, but hardly their work is it...if we hadn't played sporting none of this would have happened

Yep..... the club needs to work at spotting class talent at a younger age. then again, some might make a case that a player has to be of a certain standard so that the club can be sure he is actually going to add to it, BUT other clubs seem to be able to do it.

Milan knew that about Pato, Wenger about Clichy, Barca about dos Santos. From what I have been reading, it would seem that we don't have a big network of scouts and Fergie prefers to let his brother Martin follow up on initial reports.

I think we should adopt a system where we have a main scout in the main hot spots or at least in the South America and Africa.

As it stand, Martin Ferguson is flying around the world to run the rule over all the recommendations. I'm not sure how Jim Lawlor fits in, but you can read this interview.

http://www.manutdtalk.com/forums/ma...artin-ferguson.html?highlight=martin+ferguson
 
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