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Blade said:
Oh come on CROoney, Torres hasn't paid off for Liverpool? He scored 30+ goals, what
more can he do? he can't win the trophies by himself can he? he needs help from his
team mates and unfortunately for Liverpool their team wasn't good enough last season.
Saying Torres hasn't paid off is ridiculous.
explain...paid off in the terms off .....
did they get any money back from it by winning the trophies...
ruud has paid off for both us and real, but torres - for now - he's just promted himself...oh and their team isn't much different from last season
 

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abojodeh said:
wait is there even a partnership between Rooney and Berbatov :confused:
they don't seem to have the same understanding of Rooney and Tevez
no direct passes no one twos
there is no partnership Rooney scores hard goals alone and Berbatov scores the easy ones

and calling Rooney Berbatov partnership the best in europe holy cow
who are Aguero-Forlan Gilardinho-Bazzine (sp) Del Piero-Traziguet :rolleyes:

am very disappointed with Fergie, Tevez asked for a chance of playing but Sir Alex turned him down
true about rooney-berbatov part...
tbh adebayor rvp is a great partnership too - but they both score goals on their own - there is no real interplay between the 2 like between roo and tev imo
 
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CROoney said:
explain...paid off in the terms off .....
did they get any money back from it by winning the trophies...
ruud has paid off for both us and real, but torres - for now - he's just promted himself...oh and their team isn't much different from last season
I can't even debate with you CROoney because you're too stubborn to face facts. Torres
had the best debut season in the history of the premier League and carried Liverpool
through the season almost single handedly. Without him they could have finished fifth or
sixth even. If you think 27 million pounds is too much for a player that will score at least
25 goals a season then I don't really know what to say to you.
 

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Berbatov needed match time. He was barely involved in Spurs' pre-season so although he was thrown in at the deep end against Liverpool and Chelsea the time on the pitch will have done him good.

And boy has it paid dividends! Rooney and Berbatov have 10 goals between them. For all Tevez' good early form he only has 1 goal to his name and that came from a Berbatov pass. How do you drop Rooney or Berba at the moment?

Tevez hustles defenders, tracks back and is constantly running. I think he's a brilliant impact substitute to bring on when defenders are tiring. However, I think he'll still get plenty of starts as the season goes on.
 

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CROoney said:
true about rooney-berbatov part...
tbh adebayor rvp is a great partnership too - but they both score goals on their own - there is no real interplay between the 2 like between roo and tev imo
yeah agree

Rooney - Tevez partnership is like marriage they do have many things involved

Rooney - Berbatov partnership is like an open marriage where husbands don't sleep with themselves but sleep with others
 

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CROoney said:
explain...paid off in the terms off .....
did they get any money back from it by winning the trophies...
ruud has paid off for both us and real, but torres - for now - he's just promted himself...oh and their team isn't much different from last season
One player can not win a trophy. He needs a help from the others. And to be honest the main reason for winnig CL and PL are C.Ronaldo's 40+ goals. Without them Tevez + Ronney wouldn't have won even a single trophy. I like Tevez but Rooney+Berbatov partnership is much better.
 

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Blade said:
I can't even debate with you CROoney because you're too stubborn to face facts. Torres
had the best debut season in the history of the premier League and carried Liverpool
through the season almost single handedly. Without him they could have finished fifth or
sixth even. If you think 27 million pounds is too much for a player that will score at least
25 goals a season then I don't really know what to say to you.
i'm just saying that we should wait and see if the money they spent on him was thrown in the wind because it didn't come back by winning trophies....that's all i'm saying ...because in 30 years time it will go done in the history books somethingl like this -" liverpool were trying almost everything to detronise united as the kings of england.they even tried putting tons of cash on a great striker but they were left empty handed sort of like real madrid who spent the fortune but won nothing with all the stars they had. "
that was my point - torres is one if not the best striker of the world but even him didnt hell them win trophies...
oh and he's not on his own there - mascherano,reina,gerrard - all very good players
 

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VaVaVoom said:
Crooney what you don'y understand mate is that Fergie was nerver gonna drop Berbatov...... not because of his price tag but because this is what fergie wanted.
A stricker who can hold the ball up ( Tevez runs with it)!!
Rooney was dropped for Tevez because Berbatov adds something differen't.... It's not that hard to understand!
Totally agree ! I am absolutely sure that Sir Alex will not pay 30 m for Tevez. He has some good young talents. Don't you understand that if you ask Sir Alex who are the two best strikers in the world now , he will say Berbatov and Rooney. And wants them because they can make the game , not just score. So they can easily change their positions. He will pay 30 m for Tevez only if we buy a one way ticket to Madrid :)
 

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zoran_zlatanov said:
Totally agree ! I am absolutely sure that Sir Alex will not pay 30 m for Tevez. He has some good young talents. Don't you understand that if you ask Sir Alex who are the two best strikers in the world now , he will say Berbatov and Rooney. And wants them because they can make the game , not just score. So they can easily change their positions. He will pay 30 m for Tevez only if we buy a one way ticket to Madrid :)
lmao - wanna bet ?!
now berbatov is the best striker in the world ....hahaha
 

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CROoney said:
lmao - wanna bet ?!
now berbatov is the best striker in the world ....hahaha
I said that Sir Alex thinks this. Why he didn't try to buy Villa, Huntelaar or every other good scorer. He always wants the best. That makes me thinking what will be his answer to the question.

Can you tell me who do you think is the best one?
 

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zoran_zlatanov said:
I said that Sir Alex thinks this. Why he didn't try to buy Villa, Huntelaar or every other good scorer. He always wants the best. That makes me thinking what will be his answer to the question.

Can you tell me who do you think is the best one?
lol how do you know what saf thinks ? if he ALWAYS wants the best then tevez is the best cos he clearly wants him..or unless you think he doesn't want him...but if he doesn't want him why did he bring him in the first place
then anderson is the best, nani is the best, hargreaves is the best park is the best...then we have bought the best wingers and midfileders in the world...or you think he only wants the best strikers :p
in contrary to your question ( why didn't he buy villa etc... who i rate as one of the best target man in the world) i ask you why didn't he try to buy kaka,ribery etc...
who i think it's the best - simple - he's been proving it ever since he joined us - RVN....up ther is torres,drogba,villa,eto'o too - even adebayor has something to say , rvp too...but if i had to chose - it would be either torres or ruud
 

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CROoney said:
lol how do you know what saf thinks ? if he ALWAYS wants the best then tevez is the best cos he clearly wants him..or unless you think he doesn't want him...but if he doesn't want him why did he bring him in the first place
then anderson is the best, nani is the best, hargreaves is the best park is the best...then we have bought the best wingers and midfileders in the world...or you think he only wants the best strikers :p
Here is the answer to your question about Tevez:
VaVaVoom said:
Is it that hard to understand???
Football is about systems-- Fergie wanted Berba to play alongside Rooney even before we got Tevez on loan. He has been tracking Berba a long time.
In Fergies mind Rooney and Berba will be the best partnership in the world!
So Fergie has his dream pairing and it's looking like its already pulling together.... Rooney didn't score till Berba came on the scene. Now they both have 5 goals.
Sir Alex said that his mistake was not signing Berbatov after CL final /Leverkusen - R.Madrid/.

About the other players : It is NOT possible to have the best players on every position. But when you have 30m to spend and almost all of the best players have similar price , you will surely choose the best one in your mind. Maybe you will say that some of them can not come because their clubs don't want to sell them. But it was the same with Berbatov till the last minute of the transfer window.
 

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zoran_zlatanov said:
Here is the answer to your question about Tevez:


Sir Alex said that his mistake was not signing Berbatov after CL final /Leverkusen - R.Madrid/.

About the other players : It is NOT possible to have the best players on every position. But when you have 30m to spend and almost all of the best players have similar price , you will surely choose the best one in your mind. Maybe you will say that some of them can not come because their clubs don't want to sell them. But it was the same with Berbatov till the last minute of the transfer window.
lol - so you bought have abilites to read minds ! hilarious....i know it is not possible to have the best player on your every position but you said that he ALWAYS tries to bring the best...
 

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why fergie don't try to unleash the mighty 3 in one game

Rooney Tevez Berba

they can all change roles and go to the wings

Berba played some time on the wing yesterday and Rooney or Tevez would do that while one of the the three goes into the area as a striker while 2 on wings and they keep changing roles
 

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CROoney said:
who i think it's the best - simple - he's been proving it ever since he joined us - RVN....up ther is torres,drogba,villa,eto'o too - even adebayor has something to say , rvp too...but if i had to chose - it would be either torres or ruud
You really can't understand what i am trying to explain. RVN is much better in pure goalscoring. But neither RVN nor torres go back to take the ball. RVN is a scoring machine , but that is all. Berbatov is just another type. He is much more complex than all players you have stated. There are maybe 1-2 strikers like him /Del Piero for example/. Can't you see that all young midfielders in our team don't know how to play with target man. Nani can't give even a single good pass to him. So we can't play with pure goalscorer at this point. That's why Berbatov is so important for the team now.

I think it is time to stop writing on this thread. We definitely have different vision on this game.
 
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