[peterswellman]

Tbf, Arsenal were missing alot of players. They done really well to even get the tie to penalities. But Arsenal being able to do this should just how far backwards Italian football has gone. It's turned into a retirement home for players. The average ages of the squads are frightening. There is no money available. it's hard to see how Serie A will ever be a major player in the European scene again. Roma are a shocking side.

 

[peterswellman]

Speaking of tornetto , what a SHOCKING attempt !! :shocked:

It was like Baggio's in the WC. Terrible.

 

[peterswellman]

Do you watch much Italian football? Roma are the only team I like in Serie A. They play quality attacking football and have some excellent players like De Rossi(25), Vucinic(25), Baptista(27), Mexez(26) etc etc. A lot of Italian clubs do have older players, but Roma has a lot of great players in the prime of their careers and can hardly be put in the same 'retirement' bracket as Milan or Juventus. I'd say we've probably got more 'old' players than them to be honest.

Look at there starting line-up last night.

Tonetto-34
Juan-30
Rodrigo Taddei-29
David Pizarro-29
Totti-32.

Then on the bench-
Loria-32
Montella-34.

With Panucci and Cassetti we certainly don't have as many old players as them. No fecking chance. there is no way Sir Alex, if he was in charge would have let the clubs have so many players of that age. It's because the tempo of the elague is alot slower than the Premiership. Those old player can't cope. Roma never go anywhere in Europe and I think it's fair after the build up they get to label them an old squad.

Inter are another older squad. That's my point about it being a retirement league. they can get away with it in teh Serie A but when it reaches Europe they just don't have the legs anymore.

It's still pretty old and strange to be putting it out against a youthful Arsenal team, no?

 

[peterswellman]

To be fair, Baptista is a complete joke of a player.

Vucinic isn't up to much either. Mexes is an ok defender.

De Rossi and Perotta were big losses but it really shouldn't have a bearing because Arsenal were missing alot of their best players. They would have destroyed Roma if they did.

 

[peterswellman]

Have you ever watched them play Pete? They're a quality team who play stylish football. They're not even close to being 'shocking'.

In Europe they are. Do you realise how far backwards the Serie A is gone? It's no longer teh league is was The tempo is shocking. Hence why Roma always getting a hiding in the knockout stages. Remember 7-1? Alot of that squad is still there.

 

[peterswellman]

i agree with zuco there for sure not a shocking team although i only saw the extra time of that game last night but both teams were 'shocking' im not to sure if it was just the nerves or tiredness or a mixture of both but it really was some tiresome football to watch

Arsenal have a reason. Their midfield was Denilson and diaby ffs. Eboue was playing too. What's Roma's?

 

[peterswellman]

They are currently 5th in Serie A nearly 20 points behind Inter and the league table never lies.

'nuff said.

 

[peterswellman]

lol, I knew someone would bring that up. tbf to them, they did beat us in Rome.

Yup got humped to our team who's striker was smudge. hmmmmm.

 

[peterswellman]

im not to sure really there talisman in totti had a massive strap on his knee and for some reason roma decided to turn into a long ball team, which might i add there not, i think tiredness and nerves set in and roma just played out for peno's

But he was still on the pitch? Where as Arsenal's talisman in Fabregas(who in my eyes is better than Totti) wasn't. Totti was very good last night from what I saw. He's highly overrated though, not near as good as people make him out to be.

 

[peterswellman]

thats true about totti but in rome hes loved and i think it might of nocked the team back slightly, and yes fabregas is better than totti but id say totti is more of a striker were fabregas is a centre mid/ attacking mid and yeah i know totti can play both but not as effective as fabregas.

i think all in all it was a really weak extra time and poor football by two teams who are touted as playing beautiful football, well it wasnt evident there to be honest

Ok then Adebayor was also missing for Arsenal, he's a striker. He's key for them. Same as Rosicky. Arsenal missed alot of their players. Those who help them to play the beautiful way they like. Arshavin was also cup tied.

Arsenal are a better side than Roma in my eyes. I'm happy to see them get through. Makes for a strong competition. Roma were going out next round anyway.

 

[peterswellman]

yeah i agree with the statements about adebayor and rosicky, and arsenal are the better team for sure but i just couldnt agree with roma being 'shocking'

They are in comparsion to their counterparts in Europe. It's as simple as. Shows my opinion of Italy being a retirement league when they do so well in Italy.

No Italian team in the quater finals either btw.olice:

 

[peterswellman]

your not wrong at all i think the league needs a kick up the backside really there like liverpool relying on past glory's and im an Italian league fan

I wouldn't mind it at all. It's supposed to be a Champions League. Not a dog fight between English sides and Barce.

 

[peterswellman]

i think the names abit of a lie also Champions.... lol

For sure. liverpool wouldn't have been in it for over 20 years.:rofl:

 

[peterswellman]

Thanks, and for the record Totti isn't overrated.

Totti>Del Piero.

Which is why Totti started instead of Del Piero during the 06 world cup, and Lippi begged Totti to come back.

Clearly with his performances in Europe.

He is overrated. Del Piero is a better play for sure. Look at what the two have achieved. Telling facts.

 

[peterswellman]

Look at Del Piero's surrounding cast compared to Totti. Telling facts.

So Del Piero should be punished because he's with a more ambitious club? Hmmmm.

Del Piero has played more games, scored more goals, won more medals. Del Piero has done things on the biggest stages, Totti hasn't.

 

[peterswellman]

Totti actually has a better goal to game ratio.

You're 'punishing' Totti for staying at the club he loves. The players around them should be taken into account when comparing the two.

Why?

It's fairly obvious Totti is a better passer but Del Piero is a more complete player. He can pass, dribble, beat men. Totti cannot do that.

Anyone that thinks Totti is better than del piero clearly hasn't a clue.

Del Piero was also Totti's towel boy during the World Cup, you know, the BIGGEST STAGE.

Towel boy? Where the hell are you from that you get that 'lingo'.

Totti wasn't younger or fitted into the side more for his passing by any chance. Did Totti get talking off after an hour btw in the final for wait for it the mighty Iaquinta. He once again done it on the big stage. del Piero has never won anything either. ever.

 

[peterswellman]

Totti actually has a better goal to game ratio.

By the way. That's not true. Del Piero's is slightly better if we want to get technicial.:thumbsup:

 

[peterswellman]

The fact that you made the underlined statement so soon after the bold one was comedy timing at its best.

Not aswell as Del Piero he can't. We are comparing, aren't we? Btw, you seem to be following me around this thread. Putting in your oar and then leaving. Strange that.

 

[peterswellman]

According to my (rough) calculations it isn't. But since we're being 'technical', post your figures up :thumbsup:

It's a slight difference. Percentage wise it's 1% accorrding to my figures. Depending on the accuracy of that site i'm using.

 

[peterswellman]

totti is very overrated imo - big time choker - he never seems to deliver in europe against the big boys whilst del piero has been brilliant on the highest level

Thak you. Del Piero has put in some real big game performances whereas Totti hasn't.